panzergeneral 0 Posted May 15, 2002 Has anyone made a Merkava mbt add-on? This tank would be fun, because it has outdone Abrams tank in every single operation. Mk 4 is considered as the best mbt ever made... http://www.army-technology.com/projects/merkava/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (panzergeneral @ May 15 2002,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Has anyone made a Merkava mbt add-on? This tank would be fun, because it has outdone Abrams tank in every single operation. Mk 4 is considered as the best mbt ever made... http://www.army-technology.com/projects/merkava/index.html<span id='postcolor'> Go to the Lost Brothers Mod site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted May 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mk 4 is considered as the best mbt ever made... <span id='postcolor'> Erm, it certainly is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted May 15, 2002 It looks cool but seems a bit high on the polycount. THen again these guys their HK weapons are great so they must know what they are doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satchel 0 Posted May 15, 2002 Looks bad-ass, wonder how much will be left when putting it into OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted May 16, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Satchel @ May 15 2002,17:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">wonder how much will be left when putting it into OFP.<span id='postcolor'> Lost brothers got this out of 1800 polys: Go to Lost Brothers to see more pics just posted yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antichrist 0 Posted May 16, 2002 Merkava is the best all around tank (price, armour, firepower) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted May 16, 2002 Am i becoming near sighted or are there two machineguns on top? Wonder if they both work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted May 16, 2002 Ok got a question about that tank. I ve seen it in the news many times now and i was always wondering what the little things ( bells ? ) were on the turret ? Can someone explain that to me plz ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted May 16, 2002 The area at the bottom of the turret is protected by these. Incoming AT projectiles hit these metal chains and explode prematurely, saving the turret. (With thanks to my husband for the technical contribution). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted May 16, 2002 Aha many thanks to the avon family Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digitalcenturion 20 Posted May 18, 2002 The chain and ball armor is widely used by Israel. Chains with metal balls attached to the end of them on the side of say a M113 apc ensures that all hits in the chain protected areas from RPGs and similar weapons are detonated prematurely and the area of effect is reduced. It is one of the cheapest forms of effective additional armor but the US army for example refuses to use them because they want a clean look for their vehicles or something... pretty damn stupid if u ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-76-Chavez 0 Posted May 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Antichrist @ May 16 2002,08:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Merkava is the best all around tank (price, armour, firepower)<span id='postcolor'> Don´t think so, in my opinion the best MBT is the Leopard2, the new versions of it are even better because it has a totally new shaped turret and a better gun. Then the agility is just great, it gets more power on the ground than any other tank and it got a hit percentage of about 99% while going at fast speed. grrrrrrrrrrrrrreetz [76]Chavez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cam0flage 0 Posted May 18, 2002 Looks like a high poly count iron sheep from the middle east. // cam0flage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antichrist 0 Posted May 18, 2002 I said best all-around tank! And its the only tank that seen some action in last couple of years! Except for Russian ones! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted May 18, 2002 It's not a very good all round tank compared to the Leclerc, Challenger or Leopard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadico 1 Posted May 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not a very good all round tank compared to the Leclerc, Challenger or Leopard.<span id='postcolor'> The merkava is VERY good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paratrooper 0 Posted May 18, 2002 It's good but it's not the Rolls-Royce of MBTs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedRogue 0 Posted May 18, 2002 And again the age old argument of what country's MBT is the best bears its ugly head. An argument which has been drug out to the point of being moronic. Its easy to look at WW2 and say the Tiger was better than the Sherman or the T-34 was better than the Panzers. Because these vehicles and their crews actually fought each other. And even then the Sherman's use in WW2 shows that superior numbers, crews, and tactics can defeat a superior design. However, the Leclerc, Challenger, Merkava, T-80/90 whatever have never fought each other, all they have ever engaged is inferior antiquated MBTs with the usual advantage of numbers and tactics. Each MBT excells at what it was designed for. MBTs like the Abrams are designed to be fast moving hard hitters for assaults, Merkava's are designed for Defense and Offense in a man-portable AT filled enviroment. Any comparison that is made will be biased towards ones weakness and another's strength. Until the dreadfull day these machines of war are actually used against each other we will never know which is the better, and even then superior tactics, numbers, and training may bring the underdog out on top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTottE 0 Posted May 18, 2002 What we can do tho, is look at the specs for each tank. Speed, horsepower, cannon caliber, reload time, how fast the turret can turn, and so on. You get my point? But, as always, it's about superior tactics, more than who has got the better tank and more of them. As you said: "it might bring the underdog out on top." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Indychuck 0 Posted May 18, 2002 I agree with RedRouge. Different tanks are designed for different jobs. If a tank is designed for large scale open area combat of course it should have a higher caliber gun, and faster engine. You don't want to be going slow across a big open field cause then your just praying to get killed. It needs the bigger gun and fast engine to attack at longer ranges. There would be no need for a tank that is designed for more close quarters fighting to have these attributes. As for the Merkava. Why would you need to go that fast if all I do is drive down cramped areas or streets and why have a gun that big if all your shooting at is close to you? You would scrap the bigger gun and faster engine for more armor against mobile AT's. I'm not sure I would pick the Merkava for a long range tank to tank fight with some other tanks listed. It wasn't really designed for that. If it came down to that, I'd just call in the Apache. Now there's your long range tank killer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Jub-Jub Bird 1 Posted May 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DigitalCenturion @ May 18 2002,14:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The chain and ball armor is widely used by Israel. Chains with metal balls attached to the end of them on the side of say a M113 apc ensures that all hits in the chain protected areas from RPGs and similar weapons are detonated prematurely and the area of effect is reduced. It is one of the cheapest forms of effective additional armor but the US army for example refuses to use them because they want a clean look for their vehicles or something... pretty damn stupid if u ask me.<span id='postcolor'> Well the Americans are putting extensive research into force fields now...so with a bit of luck next time they get into a serious conflict they'll have a clean look that works. Jubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites