ZackTactical34

I can vouch for this as well. I originally did a whole bunch of testing for the Ground Branch AI about a year back (even got access to the AI settings document from one of the devs). Only problem was I learned pretty much their every move and how to manipulate the system to the player's advantage (thankfully they've dramatically altered the system since then). One of the key reasons I do all this testing is because I eventually want to get into development myself (trying to figure out what behaviors are both attainable and realistic for AI in a tactical shooter/sim).

Yeah, there were no enemies in the first video. I don't know why, but I thought that TCL, as well as GL4/GL3, were activated if the AI were given Stealth or Combat (learn something new each day ) Aside from that, here is some additional video documentation of a couple areas (both videos are unlisted in case you are wondering) AI Fireteam Reaction To Tank: Maybe it's just the terrain (overall pretty level), but I feel they should at least try to avoid the tank (pretty brave troopers for engaging it with grenade launchers 😁). The oddest thing about the whole situation is that the tank does not even engage them (will have to test it in few other situations/maps). AI & Utilization Of Cover: I don't know if this one is possible to fix (seems inherent with the entire Arma series). AI run in front of perfectly good cover. Both of these were captured with 1.0.19 Beta.

IIRC, I used Stealth with Limited movement. Makes the AI more aware with their movement as well as not rushing the overall CQB process (got this idea originally from Chris B). Great for missions or pure sampling. If there are any specific areas you would like additional testing, let me know (only thing I ever really do in Arma for the past year or so).

3 Man Fireteam CQB Movement (unlisted): To get across my original point from my last post, I personally think they should be a little more methodical in terms of how they move and cover each other (obviously personal preference). To get a rough idea as to what I’m taking about more or less this: Only reason I post this is because the movement and cover system of TCL are very similar to GL4 + Zeus combo. Movement speed and style won’t be the same (different games), but how they utilize their environment can be from what I see so far with TCL (practically the same when using a 2 man fireteam). This video below is a great example:

I found the opposite. I thought their reaction time was more realistic as it takes at least 1 sec to adequately respond on an unexpected notice. The real problem I saw was that as a fireteam (3 AI), they were not as smooth and cohesive as you’d want in the test environment I created. Drop it to 2, and they were solid.

@snkman Freaking amazing work!!

@snkman Did some more testing with TCL. One thing I like that carried over from GL4 was the Garrison feature: While this is really good (didn’t use any waypoints for the AI), there are a couple problems. 1. AI are a bit sensitive to even the slightest amount of movement as an enemy soldier. Move only a couple steps behind a wall and the entire squad reacts. 2. AI do not consistently engage inside the building. I could try to get an Unlisted video up to show what exactly happens. In a nutshell, you could walk right up to them at times and they will not react. Other than that, good work so far with the garrison feature. I’ve tested a bunch of different areas ranging from AT attacks, reaction to enemy helicopters, and cover maneuvers. Will try to get some footage up of those as well. Don’t really “play” Arma all that often (mainly testing AI).

@snkman I have some good news. I think I isolated the "stuck" AI problem. Turns out that the AI will move in open terrain as long as you're not part of the actual fireteam (i.e. separate player). I know it all sounds weird, but here's some video documentation (notes included):

I didn’t use anything else when I did the testing. Only in Arma 2 CO do I mix AI mods.

You can give them a Guard WP and they will utilize the building for cover. @snkman Though, this is one area that definitely needs improvement (i.e. when AI don’t have a specific WP). Both me and Chris noticed the AI won’t use buildings as often as they probably should. I had engaged troops from inside a building and they would not enter it for some reason. Obviously a WIP. The other thing is that AI movement is on and off in open terrain. Sometimes they maneuver and other times they stay in the same position.

@snkman Got a video up properly demonstrating TCL AI fireteam movement: Purpose was to see how well the AI could utilize their terrain when given a Move WP. I have to say, great work!

You do realize that a heavy component of the mix was GL4 (which is by snkman himself). That’s why I mentioned it with my post to give him due credit. Again, my only intent with my post/video was to show that TCL was incredibly advanced (why do you think I dedicated most of the video showcasing their abilities). Since many people have expressed genuine interest in how the A2 AI Mix behaved and wondered if it worked on A3, I wanted to show that there is an available mod that does the same basic things or better. That’s it.

@snkman Sorry for the scuffle on your mod thread (maybe an admin could clear it up). As with my original post, outstanding work. I’ll continue testing to see any areas for improvement in TCL (almost like a bug reporter). Again, excellent job 👍

What are you talking about? The whole point of my post was to show how advanced TCL was (that's why I did a side by side comparison with Smart AI Mix to prove that very fact). Obviously you didn't get that. Also, I have not anywhere near been posting on every Arma 3 discussion on A2 mods (complete fabrication). Discussing how machine learning is unnecessary by giving video evidence to the contrary is indeed relevant. Posting an AI experiment on a generic AI discussion thread for Arma like Discord is perfectly legitimate as well (it would say A3 if it were the case). You don’t get to make up the rules and call people odd if they violate them.

Discussing AI on a thread specifically about AI makes one a weirdo? That’s pretty odd. If you’re implying people aren’t interested, then why have I had several people inquire about the mod mix for A2 (which is what me and Chris call it)? Seems more like an issue on your end. Also, if I’m so obsessed over A2, then why did I create a video demonstrating how excellent TCL is for A3? Seems kinda contradictory.