Ambient Civilians for OA- Very few civilians?

[mcnools 62]

I've just started making some missions with OA, and I notice that there are hardly any civilians out there when I place the ambient civilians module, sometimes I can only find like one person in a city, usually inside a house.

In regular ArmA2, there was usually a lot more civilians than this.

I tried looking through the forum to find a way to increase the number of civilians, and I found this command:

BIS_alice_mainscope setvariable ["civilianCount","round (%1 / 10)"];

But I couldn't really understand how to actually set it to increase the amount of civilians, I tried experimenting a little, but it didn't seem to make any difference.

[Joshii 10]

formula on which basis system calculates number of civilians for locations. %1 is number of buildings with door (memory points called "AIDoor1", "AIDoor2", ...) in 500 metres from location.

So let's say there are 25 doors in 500 meters radius.

round (25/ 10) = round 2,5 = 3 civilians.

Default value (and recommended): "round (2 * (sqrt %1))"

this is the default and this would mean

sqrt 25 = 5 = (2*5) = round 10 = 10.

However you could just

BIS_alice_mainscope setvariable ["civilianCount",25];

to put 25 there I guess.

[mcnools 62]

Hm, doesn't seem to work, I even put

BIS_alice_mainscope setvariable ["civilianCount",125];

but I couldn't even find any civilians.

You just have to place the ambient civilians module on the map right? there's nothing else you need to do to activate it properly? Because I have seen some civilians spawned by it, but it seems to be rare.

[imutep 0]

The civilians modul works atm only good with town generator modul :)

[Muzzleflash 111]

You have to write the equation used as a string. Instead of 25 or 125 you have to write "25" or "125" or "NICE_EQUATION_IN_QUOTES_HERE".

I've read that it is currently very buggy in multiplayer, constant spawning/despawning. It works fine and great for me in singleplayer with default settings though. Strangely it doesn't work at all with the civilian vehicles module. Then only the vehicles spawn.

[mcnools 62]

You have to write the equation used as a string. Instead of 25 or 125 you have to write "25" or "125" or "NICE_EQUATION_IN_QUOTES_HERE".

I've read that it is currently very buggy in multiplayer, constant spawning/despawning. It works fine and great for me in singleplayer with default settings though. Strangely it doesn't work at all with the civilian vehicles module. Then only the vehicles spawn.

Looks like that did the trick, thanks man.

Most civilians seem to prefer the indoors though.

[victim913 10]

I'm kind of confused here. Does the ambient civilians module work or not? I keep trying to use it on Zargabad and I never see any civilians. The vehcles module works but no civilians.

Also I have two of them Ambient civilian module and Ambient civilian module(expansion).

OA is an expansion for arma2 but, arma2 is set as expansion in the game?:confused:

I tried using what you coded up there earlier in thread but I get no results.

Possibly putting civilians on the map, cause it not to work? I think it actually worked the very first time I tried it but after making a mission it doesn't work. I try to recreate what i did, but nothing.

[f2k sel 164]

Could be the syntax is wrong.

Try this

BIS_alice_mainscope setVariable ["civilianCount","143"]

[Muzzleflash 111]

I'm kind of confused here. Does the ambient civilians module work or not? I keep trying to use it on Zargabad and I never see any civilians. The vehcles module works but no civilians.

I can't get it working with the vehicles module active. Without the vehicle module the civilian module works in SP for me. Dunno about MP.

[Devil Dogs SF 13]

Civilians work for me on Takistan, both in pre-set towns and using the town generator.

[victim913 10]

I got it working on a new mission with only me. It works......BUT....2 things

#1. And i just tried the code you guys have and it doesn't do anything so i changed the init line to say:

this setVariable ["civilianCount","143"] instead of

BIS_alice_mainscope setVariable ["civilianCount","143"]

#2. I have Ambient Civilians (expansion) on both maps.

The new map says "CA_Modules_Alice2" in the sqm under addons and "CA_Modules_Alice2" under addon auto

But the original map is exactly the same BUT the sqm says "CA_Modules_Alice", and the addonsauto says "CA_Modules_Alice2"

So why aren't they the same? I can manually change it but does anyone have any idea why it won't save as the OA one?

Thanks for the help

thanks for the help

EDIT: WAIT A MINUTE!

I found the issue. (I think)

Edited July 11, 2010 by victim913

[e0s888 10]

Hehe I have the same problem... I am waiting for your idea ;)

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[Militant1006 11]

I'm kind of confused here. Does the ambient civilians module work or not? I keep trying to use it on Zargabad and I never see any civilians. The vehcles module works but no civilians.

Also I have two of them Ambient civilian module and Ambient civilian module(expansion).

OA is an expansion for arma2 but, arma2 is set as expansion in the game?:confused:

I tried using what you coded up there earlier in thread but I get no results.

Possibly putting civilians on the map, cause it not to work? I think it actually worked the very first time I tried it but after making a mission it doesn't work. I try to recreate what i did, but nothing.

victim you shouldn't have both the Ambient civilian Modules on the map because the Expansion one adds Takistani civs, but the regular one was designed for ArmA 2 and adds Chernarussian civs only.

[fatty86 10]

Anyone finding this module does not populate certain towns? For instance, I have not been able to get any civilians to spawn in Shukurkalay on Takistan.

[Decerto 10]

I use the Civilians Expansion module, synch it to me, and it works great.

[b00tsy 28]

Looks like that did the trick, thanks man.

Most civilians seem to prefer the indoors though.

Experiencing the same. I stoped using the module as it adds lag without a good result (visible civils). I just place triggers on the map now that spawns civils outside of buildings when bluefor comes in range and a trigger to delete them when bluefor is gone. They only do not move around much this way, need to figure out how to add scripted waypoints with markers.

[fatty86 10]

I'd like to see if anyone else can reproduce this. I put down myself as a playable unit, place a large (300m radius) trigger for detecting civilians present, then onAct hint "Civilians detected!";

I then place a ambient civilian expansion module on the map and go to various towns. Some, like Feruz Abad, trip the trigger almost instantly. Others take a few seconds.

Some, like Shukurkalay, never seem to spawn any civilians at all.