Terrain modeling with dem's

[USSoldier11B 0]

I downloaded the MicroDEM terrain modeling program. Looking for ideas and support. I would like to get the .wrp editing software when it comes out. I'm am also looking for some personnel more experienced than myself to support a project and to learn from.  Ideas? What would you as OFP fans like to see in maps as far as real world locations? Here is a DEM of Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado, where NORAD is located. Ft. Carson is also at the foot of Cheyenne Mountain.

[ale2999 0]

2 words, Tora Bora or Baghdad

[malick 0]

Hi ! I believe it would be nice to see realistic inland terrain, such as a good all plain with cities, factories, etc... this means: not an island !

But I don't know if DEM is able to generate such things.

[kitoharna 0]

I realy want to see "COMORES¨ISLAND" from Africa. It was a big land for mercenaries ops a few years ago.

[PitViper 0]

north of Seoul in South Korea has some nice terrain.

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

Wow you got the same start menu as i do!I got the silver looking menus and toolbar and i got the AOL icon the E thing and the desktop icon and in the Windows media player.Well any how i was thinking maybe i could help you and where did you get that terrain builder thing?How bout Boulder?Thats where i go climbing really nice place(full of hippies lol). Later

[USSoldier11B 0]

Things are still coming along. I got some more info via PM. Keep the ideas coming. Also be aware that it is hard to find good DEM's for other parts of the world. (Outside of U.S.)

[eh remraf 0]

I'm thinking about doing the Stumps.

[USSoldier11B 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm thinking about doing the Stumps.<span id='postcolor'>

Are you serious?

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 15 2002,20:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also be aware that it is hard to find good DEM's for other parts of the world. (Outside of U.S.)<span id='postcolor'>

Not really, it's not that hard to find good DEMs (50m or sometimes even better) for most parts of the world - you just have to pay for them.

Here in Germany a km˛ (at 50x50m grid resolution) costs about 3€ if you buy data for less than 5000 km˛ and gets cheaper if you buy more (down to around 0.30€/km˛ for more than 50000 km˛). Of course 25m, 10m or 5m resolution are much more expensive. For a standard OFP map (12.5x12.5km) that would be around 375 US$ (less if you consider that the islands won't really occupy the whole map area). Probably too expensive for a noncomercial addonon, but definitely available.

Hell, you get these even for tropical forests in Mexico (used one once - good quality, delivered as GeoTIF by INEGI). Just check the website of the country's (or state's) geography and mapping department when looking for dem data for any part of the world.

Edit: Also you could digitize the elevation data from topographic maps (1:25000 scale or better recomended) and generate the elevation modell yourself.

[USSoldier11B 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Edit: Also you could digitize the elevation data from topographic maps (1:25000 scale or better recomended) and generate the elevation modell yourself.

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I was thinking about doing this. I have access to tons of maps but I'm not sure if it will be legal to use them because they are produced by defense mapping agency

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 16 2002,12:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Edit: Also you could digitize the elevation data from topographic maps (1:25000 scale or better recomended) and generate the elevation modell yourself.

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I was thinking about doing this. I have access to tons of maps but I'm not sure if it will be legal to use them because they are produced by defense mapping agency<span id='postcolor'>

Mhhh... I guess this depends if they are considered confidential. Usually if you buy a topographic map and generate your own dem manually from it, it's perfectly legal to put the dem to whatever use you plan to. Of course that's for comercial maps, not military stuff.

Also comercial topographic maps aren't very expensive and if you plan to generate the dem manually you won't be able to process too many of them anyway (lots of work and not much fun). So why not just grab a comercial map instead of the dod ones?

[USSoldier11B 0]

I doubt these maps are classified. I will ask my section sergeant. Some of the overlays that we do for the maps are classifed though. I'm not going to try it until I know for sure though. Still looking for ideas on what maps to use. Maybe I should make apoll an give some options.

[joltan 0]

I'd like Corsica or Creta, but I guess they're just (a little bit) too big. I guess the Falklands will be done by the guys from the Falklands mod (I think there was such a message on the ofpinternals forum). Mhhh... What about a group of medium sized islands that fit in one map? Arctic or maybe caribean style (with a reef perimeter!).

[USSoldier11B 0]

Ahh, I like that idea. I was thinking perhaps scaling down a Hawaiian island. Maybe Puerto Rico. Anything is possible.

[Hobo Sniper 0]

I would prefer islands unless you can find a way to cancel the watter effect, where when you go to the end of the map: you just see water forever!!!

BTW: I'd really like Island Hopping Maps, where you can go from 1 island to another

[USSoldier11B 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW: I'd really like Island Hopping Maps, where you can go from 1 island to another <span id='postcolor'>

I concur, such a map would be very WWII South Pacificish. Beach invasions etc...

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 17 2002,07<!--emo&)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BTW: I'd really like Island Hopping Maps, where you can go from 1 island to another <span id='postcolor'>

I concur, such a map would be very WWII South Pacificish. Beach invasions etc...<span id='postcolor'>

Now, If only we could get some decent landing craft (better that those M113). I mean patrol boats aren't really fit for this. Yeah, some tropical island group would be cool. Once wrpedit is out, I'll tweak one of my DEMs to fit in ofp.

What buggers me about ofp is that the engine can only manage one waterlevel: no inland lakes or dams possible. That would be REALLY cool.

[USSoldier11B 0]

So an inland lake would be possible if it were at sea level right?

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 17 2002,10:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So an inland lake would be possible if it were at sea level right?<span id='postcolor'>

Right. But no mountain lakes, etc.

[USSoldier11B 0]

ok, I think you would really have to botch a DEM to manage a lake that is exactly at sea level, since not many in real life are exactly at sea level. I have no clue how to do this since I have no training using the program. A map that had a large inland bay would be kinda neat.

[m16a2m203 0]

Use the in/out button in MicroDEM to open a dem then use edit/dem to lower individual points or the whole selection.

[USSoldier11B 0]

ahhhh, I see.