Sooooo sweet sniper rifle

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This really cool rifle reminds me of the .50 Barret in the Delta Force series, is it a .50 Barret?

This gun looks pretty powerful, what's it range? (about 1500 meters?)

Some more info about this really sweet gun'd be appreciated!

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damn why won't that stupid pic work, oh well just visit this website

[Damage Inc 0]

Because it's an .htm file.

[DarkLight 0]

oh i see, thanks!

[Longinius 1]

Yeah, looks like a barret .50

[LordZach 0]

yeah id say it is

[RedRogue 0]

Why does everyone always think larger caliber is better?

Barret M82 or variant = less accurate, alot heavier, heavier ammunition, exposes the shooter alot better, and will still do dick against a Medium or Heavy tank and many APC/IFVs.

Would rather carry a M24. Leave the Tanks to the Airforce, Armor and the suckers carrying the AT-4s.

[scout 0]

Barret is the best weapon the infantry gots against APC/IFV.

if u know where to shoot u cant loose!

better range then AT missiles, and more abundant then ATGM's.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (scout @ April 08 2002,17:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Barret is the best weapon the infantry gots against APC/IFV.

if u know where to shoot u cant loose!<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, but how often do you have enough time to aim careful enough in a battle ?

[USSoldier11B 0]

Barret is technically not a sniper rifle. It is and AMR. Due to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal +. I personally think that this rule is B.S. dead is dead. I prefer sniper rifles in .30 type calibers. No, they do not make .50 hollow point. Hollow points are specifically designed for expanding to rip up flesh. It has nothing to do with the round being supersonic. 5.56 NATO bullets are faster than .50 cal. It's just the fact that the .50 is so big, hollow points would have no practical application. They make FMJ and API (Armor Piercing Incindiary) rounds for military applications.

[scout 0]

u use sniper tactics.

the sniper should, as all snipers, be detached from the actual fighting and best of all in an area with out any significance.

the best use is ofcourse to hit an armour concentration prior charging or while they are assaulting and all the infantry is still inside.

the rule of thumb for scouts, ATGM teams and snipers is:

"get the HELL out of the objective!"

[Tovarish 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 08 2002,18:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Due to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal +. I personally think that this rule is B.S. dead is dead<span id='postcolor'>

I'm pretty sure now that that is just a rumor. Read this story about a group of Canadian snipers that took part in Operation Anaconda. They were involved in a firefight with the Taliban, and the weapons they used were .50 cal sniper rifles. Canada is about the last country that would knowingly even come close to violating the Geneva convention. Why? Because frankly the political leadership has no balls. I mean there was a big stink over here when it was learned that our Joint Task Force 2 took prisioners in Afghanistan!! *rolls eyes* WTF is that about, if you're in a war and you come across an enemy, you defeat them, and you take survivors prisioner, you don't just let them go!! There was also a fiasco about an alleged government coverup on the matter. Jeez....

[Guest]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 08 2002,18:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Barret is technically not a sniper rifle. It is and AMR. Due to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal +. I personally think that this rule is B.S. dead is dead.<span id='postcolor'>

Read you copy of the convention again. There is no rule against using a specific caliber. The only limitation is on using hollow point bullets.

[Bordoy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Due to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal +. I personally think that this rule is B.S. dead is dead.<span id='postcolor'>

I agree it is B.S. They'll only know they'll got shot when they go to heaven and looks back at what happend.

[Mister Frag 0]

The Laws and Customs of War on Land were laid down in the Hague Accords of 1899 and 1907. The Geneva Convention covers the treatment of prisoners of war, among other things.

In any event, it is the U.S. military's position that the use of .50 caliber weapons against individuals does not violate the ban on unnecessary suffering or superfluous injury:

http://www.cpf.navy.mil/pages/legal/NWP%201-14/NWPCH9.htm

[USSoldier11B 0]

Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe my Drill Sergeants three years ago were full of shit.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal<span id='postcolor'>

No it isn't.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe my Drill Sergeants three years ago were full of shit.<span id='postcolor'>

I guess they were. Military people often get facts wrong, what else can you expect?

My section commander was convinced that the 5.56mm in 5.56mm NATO meant that the base of the cartridge was 5.56mm across and not the bullet. I corrected him, to his disbeleif. Can you beleive that?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Geneva Convention covers the treatment of prisoners of war, among other things.<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, I was going through it a few weeks ago and it made no mention whatsoever to any kind of weapon. Like you said, it designates how POW's should be treated, what human rights violations are, what designates a hospital, what the enemy or you can't do to hospitals and patients of captured territories, and so on.

Mr.Frag, do you know what countries agreed to the Hague Accords of 1899 and 1907? Or is it an 'addon' to the Geneva Convention?

Tyler

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looks like a "light fifty" model.. the great thing about the browning is that it's all gas operated, and the barrel is designed to kick into the stock, rather then you taking the kick in the gun butt.... pretty sweet actually.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 09 2002,07:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><Snip>

Mr.Frag, do you know what countries agreed to the Hague Accords of 1899 and 1907? Or is it an 'addon' to the Geneva Convention?<span id='postcolor'>

Obviously, the Hague Accords predate the Geneva Conventions, and the later were intended to supplement the former by covering subjects originally left untouched.

There were 26 signatories of the original 1899 Hague Accords, but some of those countries don't exist anymore. More than 100 other countries have ratified the 1899 and 1907 agreements since then.

I can dig out the actual list of countries if there is a need once I get home.

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 09 2002,06:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe my Drill Sergeants three years ago were full of shit.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes. They often are. And the sad thing is, they repeat it so many times, they tend to believe it, too.

[Frizbee 0]

I like the Russian made YAL sniper rifle.

9mm Subsonic ammunition. (Refered to as 9mm Heavy rounds) and completely silent when firing.

[Frizbee 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ April 08 2002,19:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (USSoldier11B @ April 08 2002,18:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Barret is technically not a sniper rifle. It is and AMR. Due to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to kill people with .50 cal +. I personally think that this rule is B.S. dead is dead.<span id='postcolor'>

Read you copy of the convention again. There is no rule against using a specific caliber. The only limitation is on using hollow point bullets.<span id='postcolor'>

The Australian SASR use .50 sniper rifles for infantry targets as well as Material targets.

As for Hollow point ammunition, the military generally doesn't like using it anyway, because it kills an opponent... 1 kill means 1 enemy down. 1 injury, means 3 people down. 1 wounded, and two needed to carry him from the battlefield, or out of the line of fire.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">As for Hollow point ammunition, the military generally doesn't like using it anyway,<span id='postcolor'>

That, and it is illegal, as Denoir pointed out to me earlier. I think that even if they were legal, armies would'nt use them. Since most soldiers are supplied with Kevlar+armour vests, hollowpoints seem kind of useless.

Tyler

[Frizbee 0]

And it would be a pain in the arse if you had to aim to get a nice shot through the eyeball everytime you wanted to try to take down an opponent.

[LauryThorn 0]

Hell, they even make 20mm sniper rifles, which are shot from

your shoulder, like a LAW..