Dawdler 0 Posted April 8, 2002 deathguy, I know, they became a bit dark Its no problem, you can set the time yourself soon... It will available for download when we relaunch the Invasion1944 page. (should be soon, though can take a while longer (mostly everything is complete)) But here you go: It works, but its rather lousy coding (I have to redo it) since I made it up as I went... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
medvidek 0 Posted April 8, 2002 Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted April 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (medvidek @ April 08 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......)<span id='postcolor'> well, but we could try advancing one at a time! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OFP can not be all games in one...<span id='postcolor'> Then what is it already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espectro (DayZ) 0 Posted April 8, 2002 Ya... but if dawdler can do it... why cant u :/? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted April 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (medvidek @ April 08 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......)<span id='postcolor'> Everyone wants something, and I'm no different, but still, you have made what I consider to be the greatest game ever, bar none. Anything you give us is much appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WKK Gimbal 0 Posted April 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (medvidek @ April 08 2002,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......)<span id='postcolor'> Simply tossing ideas - OFP already expands over so many fields that it's easy to begin wondering how far it can be stretched Anyway, it was you guys who came up with bus lines! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 8, 2002 9--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Espectro @ April 08 2002,139)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ya... but if dawdler can do it... why cant u :/?<span id='postcolor'> Maybe becuase they wouldnt settle with what I have done I doubt any programmer would Making a really good train in OFP takes more than a weekend of patching together a little worthless script... (patching is the word, I made it on the fly) Mine is very basic, veeeeeeeery basic... Has some serious limits (involving the turning process), but it works in theory. I even tried making a movie (wanted to see how my computer could stand up with a movie file of an I44 demo (which it dont, to weak computer)) of it, in which you can see the sharp Transport Tycoon turns (can see parts of them on the images) Its at http://w1.855.telia.com/~u85528876/clip0015.avi And no, I am not an idiot when trying to handle the darn mouse, I recording it in a window and it gets screwed Im such a newbie at video editing/recording Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fikalaker 0 Posted April 8, 2002 Medvidek !!! Yes, it would be asking a lot, and yes you have already given us the greatest game ever...But, you don't realize how much greater OFP would be with trains. It would be perfect for small narrow gauge (3 foot between the rails) trains with steam engines and a few cars...maybe 2 flatcars and a boxcar and a caboose. Just give us the components with curved, straight, and/or flexible track sections...a small steam engine...a flat car...a box car and maybe a caboose. We will do the rest...laying the track between towns and villages(with the mission editor)...assembling the trains...making the missions. WOW !!! I can just see a small train rolling through the picturesque scenery of Everon (or any of the Islands). It would be so great and answer so many peoples dreams of having a model or interactive railroad...but this is even better because it would have almost unlimited space and interacting AI...military or civilian...that would give the railroad meaning and purpose. This really grabs your imagination when you realize it would be possible in OFP....WHAT AN ADDON !!!!! BIS would be foolish to pass up the opportunity to do this...if not in OFP then create a new standalone game or platform ...it has UNIVERSAL appeal that huge numbers of people would go for. Maybe you could make it to merge with OFP like "Resistance " Please present this to the others at BIS...it deserves their attention!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 8, 2002 You are given a bus by BIS, arent that enough? I will ask some modeller on the I44 team to make a locomotive/car and a set of tracks, though it aint exactly high priority so it will take a while. Someone else will probably beat us to it. And I will improve the script enough to at least make it kill you when being runned over And moving sound... Gentle bobbing in sideways... Smoke rising from the locomotive... A man jumping of at each station, walking back and forth shouting "All aboard!"... Oh, oh, and a whistle Its a dream anyway -EDIT- Not a man walking back and forth, detecting the way it has stopped, like in a curve would be a pain in the ass Only jumping of and saying it soon before jumping on and leaving. -EDIT2- Oh, wait, it would work, if plotting a course alongside the train dependant on the cars and station. But then he needs to exit on the correct side... Or exit on a free side, detect, walk to the right side and start his path. See what I mean with a programmer not being happy with what I currently have? So much more trouble with a really cool and nice train -EDIT3- Aw, now I overused smilies again. :nonexistestent smillie here: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted April 8, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (medvidek @ April 08 2002,06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......)<span id='postcolor'> Why not!? It could be a revolution in the game industry seing a game that got it all in it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fikalaker 0 Posted April 9, 2002 Dawdler...That would be great...anything like that would get it started...BIS and others could then see the potential... It would also enhance your MOD immensely!! ----------------------------------------------------------- (Quote from above) "I will ask some modeller on the I44 team to make a locomotive/car and a set of tracks, though it aint exactly high priority so it will take a while. Someone else will probably beat us to it. And I will improve the script enough to at least make it kill you when being runned over And moving sound... Gentle bobbing in sideways... Smoke rising from the locomotive... A man jumping of at each station, walking back and forth shouting "All aboard!"... Oh, oh, and a whistle" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- (How do you enclose a quote?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkhawk 0 Posted April 9, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (deathguy @ April 08 2002,21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (medvidek @ April 08 2002,06:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Trains.... new models, new physic, new definitions, new class, .... OFP can not be all games in one... (flying simulator, FPS, train simulator, ......)<span id='postcolor'> Why not!? It could be a revolution in the game industry seing a game that got it all in it!<span id='postcolor'> GTA 3 (Grand theft auto 3) comes close to it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 9, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (fikalaker @ April 09 2002,15:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Dawdler...That would be great...anything like that would get it started...BIS and others could then see the potential... It would also enhance your MOD immensely!! ----------------------------------------------------------- (Quote from above) "I will ask some modeller on the I44 team to make a locomotive/car and a set of tracks, though it aint exactly high priority so it will take a while. Someone else will probably beat us to it. And I will improve the script enough to at least make it kill you when being runned over And moving sound... Gentle bobbing in sideways... Smoke rising from the locomotive... A man jumping of at each station, walking back and forth shouting "All aboard!"... Oh, oh, and a whistle" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- (How do you enclose a quote?)<span id='postcolor'> I know it would be great, that's why Im working hard. Cut it down from 12kb to 9kb, though I havent actually tested it yet. I have improved it (even while the first version isnt even out yet ), I think I know how to to make the gentle wobbling, smoke should be no problem, neither should the little man shouting "All aboard" since I only add that in the part where the script waits for restart. Sounds of a moving train will be slightly harder, since one need to really control that (dont want it to sound all along, want it to go PUFF...PUFF..PUFF.PUFFPUFFPUFF when starting/stopping etc). Wait and see I am not sure if I am to release that version yet though... Invasion1944 secrets you know But my suggestion on a more open enviroment in the scripting way was not rejected (many agreed), so I suppose it will be released. Its only the models that needs protecting, since anyone can do what I have done (anyone that can see order in chaos, since my scripts are CHAOS ), but not anyone can make models like Ciecato or Keyser Soze... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dionysos 0 Posted April 10, 2002 We need both trains and buses, the more the better. Another idea is to add postmen and milkmen and see if they run on time. A new idea would be for Bohemia Interactive or someone with the "Visitor" tool to make larger islands, not like the vast one in resistance, far bigger than that, with motorways and another large island on the same world but separated by a vast sea. Think of the possibilities, passenger ferries crossing the water, civilian hovercraft all running on timetables. We need a large mountain with caves inside and cable cars. The houses need to be improved. I don't believe that anyone in Eastern Europe could have lived in such low conditions as that. Women and children should be added. Dawdler, when will any form of Beta be released for Invasion 1944, or at least a few vehicles? Update the site abit, the information you have so far is ancient! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dionysos @ April 10 2002,11:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dawdler, when will any form of Beta be released for Invasion 1944, or at least a few vehicles? Update the site abit, the information you have so far is ancient!<span id='postcolor'> About the beta: No one knows when it will be out, since I44 relies heavily on Oxygen... We aint got it yet, to my knowledge. The site WILL be updated! It will be relaunched, not only updated... An entirely new page and forum. Just wait, it should happen soon (with soon meaning within the week, otherwise Ill go and beat up Askhan I think ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordZach 0 Posted April 10, 2002 it could actually be pretty basic if you want to do it a lame-o way heh. just make it a terrain type, add that terrain type, and make the AI be able to drive only, and follow only that specific terrain type. my super-lame looking, super-lame in general for the lazy people idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 10, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (LordZach @ April 10 2002,14:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it could actually be pretty basic if you want to do it a lame-o way heh. Â just make it a terrain type, add that terrain type, and make the AI be able to drive only, and follow only that specific terrain type. Â my super-lame looking, super-lame in general for the lazy people idea<span id='postcolor'> And if you look at how the ai in OFP drive, a train would go all over the tracks, in any direction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deathguy 0 Posted April 10, 2002 LOL it would need a new AI for a train if we want it to go straight and at the right place on the right direction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage_Frost 0 Posted April 14, 2002 What I wish was for BIS to make it so that unofficial addons, new islands would be downloaded automatically as part of the Mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted April 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rage_Frost @ April 14 2002,22:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What I wish was for BIS to make it so that unofficial addons, new islands would be downloaded automatically as part of the Mission.<span id='postcolor'> ehh.....for 56k users like me, that would be a bit harsh.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rage_Frost 0 Posted April 15, 2002 yes their are some hugh addons but Alot of small ones lets take that new island it's only 96k and most people not all have a better connection then 56k. I'm just saying it would add something new to ofp so you wouldn't have to hunt down addons to play missions on dedicated servers! Now i know most of the missions we have on are server are in the range of 600+kb and the 56ker's have an extra 1min or 2 to d/l it but we wait for them alot of the times the only thing that gets us if your ping is through the roof. I know most people that have 56k that go to are server their ping is only around 150 to 180 i would have to say thats ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Relg 0 Posted April 15, 2002 what I think some uber programmer needs to do is reasses and recode the collision script yes i know how much work that would be, but I can dream can't I? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dawdler 0 Posted April 15, 2002 Dont even dream about it What has that gotto do with Resistance or trains btw? Oh, and an early beta of my train is available for download at my page of general crap things (diverse screenshots and the train). Address is found somewhere in http://invasion1944.operation-flashpoint.de/forum....did=456 where one can read additional info (like things NOT to complain on ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fikalaker 0 Posted April 15, 2002 Dawdler, I looked at your "Train" mission and I think it shows you have a good idea of how accomplish many of the things a train does using scripts... Do you think it would be possible to enter the "train" and start it and stop it where you want to, but following the waypoint "track" you have laid. Also starting and stopping needs to be very gradual...no fast starts or stops due to the mass of trains.(but of course you know this) Great start!!! Have you talked to any of the modelers for I44 about an engine model and track yet? I know there are huge limitations till you get Oxygen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
