Biggest complaint about flashpoint

[Vash the Stampede 0]

you know i figured such a advanced well designed game would have had a better varierty of weapons, it lacks a affective shotgun and sniper rifle, i can plainly see a scope on the M21 but you cant do anything with it ? are there any mods that add a good 12gauge shotgun and maybe a sniper system the uses the scope ? otherwise this game is great

[STS_SolidSnake 0]

Wait for Resistance, dozens of weapons are gonna be in it.

[Sadico 1]

But there is no need of a shotgun! In this game you almost always engage the enemy at long distance, and a shotgun would be inefective in almost all battles.

[WKK Gimbal 0]

Uhm .... regarding the scope ... have you tried pressing the NumPad 0 key?

[§nake 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WKK Gimbal @ April 02 2002,00:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uhm .... regarding the scope ... have you tried pressing the NumPad 0 key?  <span id='postcolor'>

lol I favor the Dragonouv over the M21 anyways... and a shotgun would be worthless... I could see maybe a master key (M4A1 with a 12 Ga. Rem. mounted on the lower like a M203.)

But a reg shotty?? UHHH!!

I think the only bad thing about this game is.... when it first came out, the net code blew ass... I mean, I couldn't even play as a dialup without waiting half an hour.... but through each patch the net code got better and better... now I can play just as fast, at anytime... the problem is this.... all those who bought the game, and played on-line.. said the game sucked.. so they through it in their pile of sucky games, and never touched it again. And the fact that the weapons are a bit clumsy... I mean it doesn't feel like your really GRIPPING the gun like you should be... but maybe thats why I prefer being a pilot.

[madmike 0]

There is a shitgun(lol I thought I would leave it in,mistake), its the kolize or what ever its called

[Wobble 1]

what pisses me off.. handgrenades.. exploding on impact.. STUPID! please fix!

[deathguy 0]

I got to say, the shotgun is really crap. It does not even fire like a real shotgun.

[Assault (CAN) 1]

There are no 'true' shotguns in OFP. What I mean is this: When you fire a shell from a kozlice, there are no shotgun BBs that all come out at once but a bunch of bullets that come out one after the other to give the impression of a shotgun. Thats why you see the ammo count as 2/14 or 3/21. For each shot you fire, 7 bullets leave the barrel one after the other. Its more like a machine gun when you think of it.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?

[§nake 0]

yep... if only OF had some of May Payne's graphics features..

*sigh*

[VIOLENCE JACK 0]

I also hate the fact that the grenades expolde on impact,once i attact a house full the enemy,attempted to through a grenade in and ended up wasting my whole squad at the front door!Its a pity because the game is the best war sim ever.

[Satchel 0]

Copy&Paste (As i don´t feel the need to type it all again).

It couldn´t be more important concerning addons/mod, so here it is again:

"From the first hours of the demo many people posted that the best way to achive a healthy balance is to make every weapon, every vehicle and piece of equipment as close as possible to actual specs.

What we have now is a more simplified and in most cases unrealistic setup, where realism or authenticy isn´t that much of a factor.

However, one way to get what you want is through modding, everything you have mentioned is possible to create as an addon.

The problem is, that it´s an addon, therefore will not work with other missions than in those created by yourself or other people using this specific unit/weapon.

This is one of Flashpoints greatest shortcomings; you can´t use addons in regular campaigns or single player missions. Take Rogue Spear for example and how mods are handled there, it´s a way better structure allowing to activate/deactivate mods and use them in every mission, as you can choose the gear you want to take into a mission via the setup/briefing screen.

This is a thing i´m really missing in OFP, and the lacking of it really hurts the whole modding environment badly.

Just think about it, you downloaded that really high quality addon, looking way better than the original and you want to use it always...now how much people are motivated to design their own missions and PLAY their own missions just to use a specific addon? Pretty boring right, if you know every trigger by his nickname and every single unit on the map with according specs because you created it yourself...and to make a mission just to use an addon- not appropiate in my oppinion. Some people havn´t got the time or a clue how to make missions anyway, they just want to use addons without thinking much about it.

What Flashpoint needs urgently amongst those things that will come with Resistance is:

A) Improved Addon/Mod handling

B) Player can choose for himself and the squad (in SP)

Player Class (uniform)

Weapons (not bound to playerclass)

Equipment

for every mission, no matter if campaign, singleplayer or Multiplayer.

For vehicles this is a bit more complicated, as they have a great influence on mission balance. So they should be only choosable from the list, if the mission has "Slots" for them divided in classes "Air", "Sea" and "Land", and according sub-categories like "APC", "IFV", "MBT" medium/heavy, "wheeled" Truck/Jeep/Motorcycle, "Rotary Wing", "Fixed Wing" etc..... just as example. The mods/addons have an identifyer that puts them in one of those classes.

Just an example how it might work, using this method you could play a campaign a dozen times and more without getting bored, as you can tryout every setup, using new equipment everytime as new mods become available.

"

[deathguy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 01 2002,20:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are no 'true' shotguns in OFP. What I mean is this: When you fire a shell from a kozlice, there are no shotgun BBs that all come out at once but a bunch of bullets that come out one after the other to give the impression of a shotgun. Thats why you see the ammo count as 2/14 or 3/21.  For each shot you fire, 7 bullets leave the barrel one after the other. Its more like a machine gun when you think of it.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?<span id='postcolor'>

ya we get ya, I wonder if some thing else than machine gun, sniper and rocket launcher can be inserted in ofp??

[STS_SolidSnake 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yep... if only OF had some of May Payne's graphics features..

*sigh* <span id='postcolor'>

Whats May Payne???

imagine OFP with Metal Gear Solid 2 Graphics

[Intruder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ April 02 2002,00:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There are no 'true' shotguns in OFP. What I mean is this: When you fire a shell from a kozlice, there are no shotgun BBs that all come out at once but a bunch of bullets that come out one after the other to give the impression of a shotgun. Thats why you see the ammo count as 2/14 or 3/21.  For each shot you fire, 7 bullets leave the barrel one after the other. Its more like a machine gun when you think of it.

Do you guys get what I'm saying?<span id='postcolor'>

Theres a great Delta Force addon with a great Remington shotgun. You see all the shells pour out

When you see it hit a target, you see loads of bullet hits.

you can get it

here

[Wadi 0]

With regards to sniper rifles - how the feck do you aim the goddamn Druganov?

[InRange 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wadi @ April 02 2002,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With regards to sniper rifles - how the feck do you aim the goddamn Druganov? <span id='postcolor'>

"Avon calling!"

[Major Fubar 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ April 02 2002,11:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yep...  if only OF had some of May Payne's graphics features..  

*sigh*   <span id='postcolor'>

Whats May Payne???

imagine OFP with Metal Gear Solid 2 Graphics<span id='postcolor'>

That's Max's sister....she's been in hiding since his family got murdered. You dont hear much about her.

[STS_SolidSnake 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Major Fubar @ April 02 2002,16:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STS_SolidSnake @ April 02 2002,111)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yep...  if only OF had some of May Payne's graphics features..  

*sigh*   <span id='postcolor'>

Whats May Payne???

imagine OFP with Metal Gear Solid 2 Graphics<span id='postcolor'>

That's Max's sister....she's been in hiding since his family got murdered. You dont hear much about her.<span id='postcolor'>

lol, Nice one!

[peeps 0]

going back to the origonal problem:

you can aim the sniper rifles with the 'gun aim' button '0 ins' or 'v' default. And btw the biggest problem in operation flashpoint is the fact that they've made an arse up of sea units, and the fact that grenades explode on contact, thats bout it tho.

[Benze 0]

T3h kozlice is a machinegun with 7 bullets.

[Wadi 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Benze @ April 02 2002,21:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">T3h kozlice is a machinegun with 7 bullets.

<span id='postcolor'>

Wrong!!!

The Kozlice is a hunting rifle.

[ran 0]

do you know many hunting rifles which fire like that in the reality ??

[RedStorm 0]

The kozlice in OFP fires seven rounds in really fast succession, thus making it look like a shotgun shell.

[AntiPasta 0]

well one thing that REALLY sucks in OFP is the handling of indoor environments (houses etc). I mean, you can just walk through walls and windows, and lying down on a stair also produces numerous clipping errors. Plus, going in a house sucks in general. Some Deus Ex-like stuff on that one would be cool, with everything usable and destructable etc