TrackIR 5 ArmA2 Thread!

[SgtMjr 10]

I got notice that my TrackIR 5 and Track Clip Pro shipped, finally. I'll be back to bug you guys when I'm setting it up, and I expect results:D

[bigduksixx 15]

BigDukSixx: you will need to activate it under controllers ingame. atleast thats whats needed in the full game.

I've just installed the full game and when I ran it for the first time TIR worked fine. TIR commands were already in the control setting bu=y default.

BUT, now it's stopped working and I have no idea why. I've tried running in Admin mode, but that didn't work.

Works fine in rFactor though.

OS: Vista HP

Any help much appreciated.

[NaturalPoint_Vincent 0]

Is the green LED, on the right side of the TrackIR 5 coming on?

Double check that the TrackIR is still enabled in the controller settings (try disabling, and reenabling)

[reilar 10]

BUT, now it's stopped working and I have no idea why. I've tried running in Admin mode, but that didn't work.

Works fine in rFactor though.

OS: Vista HP

Any help much appreciated.

If you have created a new profile in ArmA2 check the control settings in the game. You maybe have to re-enable TrackIR.

[thales100 10]

I would like to know how your TrackIR configuration for Arma 2 is.

Hey, im running TrackIR 5.0 Beta 4, Speed is set to 1.2 and Smooth 20 , i also disabled the Z axe.

[bigduksixx 15]

Is the green LED, on the right side of the TrackIR 5 coming on?

Double check that the TrackIR is still enabled in the controller settings (try disabling, and reenabling)

That was it. Some how it had become disabled.

Many thanks

BD6

[Dreossk 10]

What is the difference between the normal clip and the pro clip? One is used on a cap and the other on headphones?

And since you always have to look at the screen when you move your head, it doesn't add realism. It adds a second way to control the game but it doesn't enhance realism. IRL when I move my head my eyes also move, and it's obviously impossible on a PC since you couldn't see the game...

Don't get me wrong, I think that gadget is awesome and I'll probably buy it but I want to know your point of view.

Edited July 18, 2009 by Dreossk

[datter 0]

What is the difference between the normal clip and the pro clip? One is used on a cap and the other on headphones?

The cap clip uses reflected light, the headphone clip uses IR LED's so the camera can see them a lot better in different lighting conditions.

And since you always have to look at the screen when you move your head, it doesn't add realism. It adds a second way to control the game but it doesn't enhance realism. IRL when I move my head my eyes also move, and it's obviously impossible on a PC since you couldn't see the game...

You've clearly never used one, and should probably try it (or it's equivalent at least, if you aren't sold) and then make claims. TrackIR pulls me into the games I use it with (ArmA2 and FSX at the moment) like you wouldn't believe. It's hard to explain that if you've not tried one of course, but it's sort of like without the TrackIR I am on this side of the monitor in my chair, at my keyboard. With the TrackIR, it feels more like I'm on the other side of the monitor. Much more engaged and involved in what's going on and much more a part of my surroundings.

[Dreossk 10]

An engagement and involvement that's worth 230$?

[bigduksixx 15]

An engagement and involvement that's worth 230$?

The things u are saying have been said thousands of time and been proven to be wrong.

Move along...nothing here for u.

[Dreossk 10]

It's been proven to be wrong that it's worth 230$? Which page?

Edited July 18, 2009 by Dreossk

[datter 0]

Mine was $163 USD

[Dreossk 10]

It's that price on the website but it's in USD and it doesn't include shipping. Very expensive for 1 game.

Edited July 18, 2009 by Dreossk

[datter 0]

ok, well... if you don't like/can't pay the asking price there are "alternatives" if you've creative enough to find them, and diligent enough to make them work. In my experience these "alternatives" are functional to a point, but not enough to make them worth pursuing.

On the odd chance you know and understand guitars at all, it's like comparing a 1959 Gibson Les Paul to a cheap Walmart knockoff. You get what you pay for... if you won't pay for it, then either get a knock off or just do without. Whatever suits you really, just so long as you're happy with your decision and accept that others are very happy with theirs.

[thales100 10]

It's that price on the website but it's in USD and it doesn't include shipping. Very expensive for 1 game.

As datter said you get what you pay for.

[bigduksixx 15]

Dreossk:

And since you always have to look at the screen when you move your head, it doesn't add realism. It adds a second way to control the game but it doesn't enhance realism. IRL when I move my head my eyes also move, and it's obviously impossible on a PC since you couldn't see the game...

All this from someone who has never even tried it, or, for that matter, even watched the video posted by the OP.

Have a

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It's that price on the website but it's in USD and it doesn't include shipping. Very expensive for 1 game.

You only have one game? Poor u. :(

[ags 10]

Hi, anyone bought 1 in Australia ?, tried to buy online at Naturalpoint but keep getting UPS error and unable to purchase. cheers.

[Barred 0]

Dreossk TrackIR works in more than one game.

Have a look here http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/enhanced-games-all.html

A little more than one game!

Oh and yes it is worth it for one game. TrackIR is the best thing for gaming since the evolution of the mouse.

[Dreossk 10]

I saw that yesterday but I only play one game in that list. I never even heard of most of the other games. But I understand why there's isn't a lot of games. Not many FPS allow the free look like Arma 2. In fact I can't think of another one.

If a game isn't in that list, it won't be possible to map a command to TrackIR? GTA4 would be great with TrackIR but it's not in the list so it wouldn't work?

Edited July 19, 2009 by Dreossk

[bigduksixx 15]

I saw that yesterday but I only play one game in that list. I never even heard of most of the other games. But I understand why there's isn't a lot of games. Not many FPS allow the free look like Arma 2. In fact I can't think of another one.

Come on, you're not really trying, now, are you?

For a laugh, i just tried flying in arma2 without TIR, just using alt key. In comparison to using TIR, the experience is truly horrible. I'm able to compare because I've tried both methods, which you haven't.

But now we have established that you don't want one, you can move along...no...thing...for...you..here.

[Dreossk 10]

I know it must be a great experience, but is the fact that you don't have to press ALT, for one game, is worth 230$? From what I saw in this thread, people turn off a function because it doesn't do well in the game and they must bind a key to reset the view so there's still a key to use.

And can you answer the second part of my previous post?

Edited July 19, 2009 by Dreossk

[D_O_A 10]

Hi, anyone bought 1 in Australia ?, tried to buy online at Naturalpoint but keep getting UPS error and unable to purchase. cheers.

Here

I ordered mine from there (and pretty much everything else PC related) love PCCG

[Barred 0]

I saw that yesterday but I only play one game in that list. I never even heard of most of the other games. But I understand why there's isn't a lot of games. Not many FPS allow the free look like Arma 2. In fact I can't think of another one.

If a game isn't in that list, it won't be possible to map a command to TrackIR? GTA4 would be great with TrackIR but it's not in the list so it wouldn't work?

When I first got a TrackIR there was only 1 game and that was IL2, even then it had to be patched. Comparing the TIR at that time to the present version was like comparing a COM port Mouse with a modern gaming mouse. IT was still worth getting as it made such a difference.

Have a look at Dslyecxi's video here http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/03-enhanced-games/game-arma-2.html IF that does not convert you then there is nothing more I can say apart from you are missing out on a great gaming experience.

[Dreossk 10]

I saw that video many times but my previous questions still stand.

[Barred 0]

You can set the ratio of how much you move your real head to the one in the game. As for turning on or off axis in a game that supports all 6 axis well then that is down to individuals taste.

Having to map 3 key's/buttons to turn on/off, precision mode and centre view is nothing when you look at all the key mappings in AMA2. Back in the days of TIR ver1 then the 'centre' key/button was used frequently. With today’s ver5 using the clip for a cap, I left the computer for an hour or so with a game paused and still wearing the cap. When I went back and un-paused the game the tracking was a little out and that was because I was not in the same sitting position. It had nothing to do with TrackIR.

The tracking is more precise with the Pro clip with its active tracking. When someone gets a TrackIR for the very first time it takes a bit to set up and to train your brain to its use. How long this takes and how difficult it is to set up is down to the individual, any difficulties or advice is well handed on NatrualPoint's web site.

You originally said that when you are looking around you move your eyes and not your head. You are correct in that when scanning you use your eyes (your periphiral vision detects movement and then you use your frontal vision lock on for ranging). If something is picked up by your head orientates to where your eyes are looking. This is done automatically by your brain so that it can lock your eyesight and hearing to try and pick up any more movement. If you can see it your stereoscopic view is then used to judge its distance and to do this you must move your head to get the largest distance between your eyes so that the difference between what your eyes are seeing is used to get the distance.

This is so instinctive that you do not realise that you are doing it. You can consciously over ride it if you want to though.

Edited July 19, 2009 by Barred