RedemptiionZz 1 Posted May 14, 2012 Hi im new to Arma 2 but i have some really bad framerate issues when im pretty sure I shouldn't my pc specs are: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition @3.5GHz 6GB DDR3 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 1TB HD Windows 7 Ultimate x64 I've read multiple threads and most people recommend turning of hyper-threading whereas i cannot do this i was wondering if anyone else has a similar rig and can share their wisdom at how to get the game running well i get the same fps on lowest settings and highest settings which is around 15fps and it annoys the hell out of me i know the game should run soo much better and i see youtube videos with less powerfull rigs that can run the game better than me soo please help me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted May 14, 2012 @RedemptiionZz: try these tried and tested tips to improve your performance: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?85124-ArmA2-OA-%28low%29-performance-issues&p=2081466#post2081466 Then let us know how you get on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 14, 2012 Hi im new to Arma 2 but i have some really bad framerate issues when im pretty sure I shouldn't my pc specs are:AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition @3.5GHz 6GB DDR3 Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 1TB HD Windows 7 Ultimate x64 I've read multiple threads and most people recommend turning of hyper-threading whereas i cannot do this i was wondering if anyone else has a similar rig and can share their wisdom at how to get the game running well i get the same fps on lowest settings and highest settings which is around 15fps and it annoys the hell out of me i know the game should run soo much better and i see youtube videos with less powerfull rigs that can run the game better than me soo please help me what are your results in the benchmark 1 and the e08 scenario? my biggest recommmendation is to go to the arma2.cfg and arma2OA.cfg file and make sure it says this: GPU_MaxFramesAhead=0; GPU_DetectedFramesAhead=0; this gets rid of any unnecessary delay between mouse/keyboard and screen. There will still be quite a bit compared to other games, but extra delay makes it unbearable when fps is low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taxableabe 1 Posted May 16, 2012 Hello everyone. Need some help upgrading my rig, to better run at very high settings, view distance at 2k-5k, 1920x1200 or 1080 whatever it is in arma 2 combined ops. Asus Rampage iii Formula LGA1366 x58 i7-950 3.06GHz, overclocked to 3.7GHz on raidmax x3 heatsink EVGA GTX 470 Superclocked G.Skill 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) 120GB Corsair Force GT SSD, which I have Arma installed on, with an extra HDD (500GB) for all the extra mods that I use a launcher to find and run. I'm looking for an upgrade in frame rates and better smoother game play in large gameplay. Looking to spend around $300, I'm thinking a better graphics card could be a bit better, but should I do another GTX470 or buy a newer better version under $300 and ability to buy another for SLI at a later date. Is it my CPU that's bottlenecking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 16, 2012 Hello everyone. Need some help upgrading my rig, to better run at very high settings, view distance at 2k-5k, 1920x1200 or 1080 whatever it is in arma 2 combined ops.Asus Rampage iii Formula LGA1366 x58 i7-950 3.06GHz, overclocked to 3.7GHz on raidmax x3 heatsink EVGA GTX 470 Superclocked G.Skill 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) 120GB Corsair Force GT SSD, which I have Arma installed on, with an extra HDD (500GB) for all the extra mods that I use a launcher to find and run. I'm looking for an upgrade in frame rates and better smoother game play in large gameplay. Looking to spend around $300, I'm thinking a better graphics card could be a bit better, but should I do another GTX470 or buy a newer better version under $300 and ability to buy another for SLI at a later date. Is it my CPU that's bottlenecking? I run something similar (i5-750 4Ghz, gtx470 750Mhz), I'm probably gpu limited in a light scenario with not that much ai, but cpu limited if I'm in a town with lots of vehicles and people. I'd say your system is pretty well balanced. I'd say do not upgrade, or upgrade both, but be prepared to spend. If you want noticably better performance you need a sandy or ivy bridge K quad and a gtx670 or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted May 16, 2012 Good advice from Leon86 Rather than upgrade, try optimising your rig. I use these tried and tested settings: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?85124-ArmA2-OA-%28low%29-performance-issues&p=2081466#post2081466 As a result, I can run at 1920x1200, with Norm-High visuals and 2.4km VD on 4-year old CPU with 3-year old GPU at acceptable (20-40 fps) framerates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpamJabber 10 Posted May 17, 2012 Hi all, I am just wondering if anyone could offer some advice in terms of getting a rig for arma2. I am currently in Sydney but I am only in Oz for about another 7months or so. Anyway I really want to get back to playing arma and my current dm1 will not even get close to running this thing. I am quite capable of picking the components etc but I need some help from Australian players who could refer me to the best sites to get a laptop for this. Originally from the UK so I was used to having a lot of sites available. In Australia I am not sure what sites are the best to buy from for Customer Support/Value Thanks for anyone who can help point out where to buy from and any recommendations on machines would be fine too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
domokun 515 Posted May 17, 2012 SpamJabber: the choice of components depends on your budget. So what's your limit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taxableabe 1 Posted May 17, 2012 I run something similar (i5-750 4Ghz, gtx470 750Mhz), I'm probably gpu limited in a light scenario with not that much ai, but cpu limited if I'm in a town with lots of vehicles and people. I'd say your system is pretty well balanced. I'd say do not upgrade, or upgrade both, but be prepared to spend. If you want noticably better performance you need a sandy or ivy bridge K quad and a gtx670 or something. Well I might as well just build another computer then and keep this one, lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpamJabber 10 Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) SpamJabber: the choice of components depends on your budget. So what's your limit? I don't want to spend more than $1500 AUD, obviously probably including 2nd gen processor with the best possible GPU within budget. And throw in an SSD and I reckon it'll be ok. BTW I would like it in a 15.6" chasis EDIT: Is it worth getting the 7970 in the laptop over the GTX 670? It normally pushed the price closer to What do you guys think of this: http://www.logicalblueone.com.au/store/523-horize-w110er-notebook-pc-gaming-ultra-portable-clevo.html as it is very portable it helps with the moving around Edited May 18, 2012 by SpamJabber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueWolf 1 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Although it's highly unlikely I will be running out to purchase a top of the line custom built alienware zetabyte PC.. It would be better to know what the developers use under their hoods when making the game that they are working on. even though my pc passes the games minimum requirements I have to set my game at the VEry lowest settings 800x600 with most settings switched off/disabled and I ((still)) get ungodly lag so bad sometimes I am concerned my gerbil powered dual cpu will drop dead from exhaustion -ferociously unbearable! tho I am almost certain at this point it has to do with unnecessary clutter: mods + a map required 2GB -CAA1 it still feels like I am running on an old Amiga 1500 1 MB on-board RAM, 256 kB ROM ..very strange. Edited May 19, 2012 by BlueWolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swentiz 1 Posted May 19, 2012 Hey, I run windows xp pro on my mac whit VMware Fusion. I download the demo, i install it. But the game starts and i want to do the first mission, but my screen is black? :butbut: Regards, Jordy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas 5 Posted May 19, 2012 Hey,I run windows xp pro on my mac whit VMware Fusion. I download the demo, i install it. But the game starts and i want to do the first mission, but my screen is black? :butbut: Regards, Jordy Have you installed the latest DirectX? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swentiz 1 Posted May 19, 2012 Yes i install it. I have a black screen if i want play a mission or something.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas 5 Posted May 19, 2012 Yes i install it. I have a black screen if i want play a mission or something.. Hmmm. Try going directly into the installation directory in C:\Program Files\ and launch the game by clicking the .exe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 19, 2012 There was a topic somewhere on this forum from someone who got it working on a mac via some emulator, but the best and easiest way is to use bootcamp and just run windows natively. ---------- Post added at 09:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ---------- Although it's highly unlikely I will be running out to purchase a top of the line custom built alienware zetabyte PC..It would be better to know what the developers use under their hoods when making the game that they are working on. even though my pc passes the games minimum requirements I have to set my game at the VEry lowest settings 800x600 with most settings switched off/disabled and I ((still)) get ungodly lag so bad sometimes I am concerned my gerbil powered dual cpu will drop dead from exhaustion -ferociously unbearable! http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-images/pchabicase.jpg tho I am almost certain at this point it has to do with unnecessary clutter: mods + a map required 2GB -CAA1 it still feels like I am running on an old Amiga 1500 1 MB on-board RAM, 256 kB ROM ..very strange. got specs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueWolf 1 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Specs: General Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate Central Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz User Name Classified Graphics Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT Video Memory 1.00 GB Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Storage Total Memory 2.00 GB Free Memory 761.91 MB Total Hard disk 260.76 GB Free Hard disk 50.88 GB I/O Mouse USB Input Device Keyboard USB Input Device Computer System Computer Name Classified User Name Classified Organization N/A Operating System OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate OS Version 6.1.7600 Product ID Classified System Up Time 5/17/2012 11:13:17 AM Internet Explorer Version Classified Microsoft DirectX Version 4.09.00.0904 OpenGL Version 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255) Registry Maximum Size 682 MB Current Size 49 MB Status OK Central Processor CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz Code Name Model 4, Stepping 1 Manufacturer GenuineIntel Current Clock Speed 2793 Mhz Max Clock Speed 2793 Mhz Voltage 1.7V External Clock 800 Mhz Serial Number Classified CPU ID x64 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1 Socket Designation Microprocessor N/A 16 KB N/A 1024 KB Motherboard Model Classified Manufacturer Custom Built Inc. Serial Number Classified BIOS Name Classified BIOS Vendor Classified SMBIOS Version Classified BIOS Date Classified Memory Resource Total Memory 2.00 GB Used Memory 1.25 GB Free Memory 762.62 MB Memory Usage 62% Physical Memory Memory Bank N/A Description Physical Memory 0 Device Locator DIMM1 Capacity 512.00 MB Speed 533 Mhz Manufacturer NULL Data Width 64 bit Memory Type SDRAM Form Factor DIMM Physical Memory Memory Bank N/A Description Physical Memory 1 Device Locator DIMM2 Capacity 512.00 MB Speed 533 Mhz Manufacturer NULL Data Width 64 bit Memory Type SDRAM Form Factor DIMM Physical Memory Memory Bank N/A Description Physical Memory 2 Device Locator DIMM3 Capacity 512.00 MB Speed 533 Mhz Manufacturer NULL Data Width 64 bit Memory Type SDRAM Form Factor DIMM Physical Memory Memory Bank N/A Description Physical Memory 3 Device Locator DIMM4 Capacity 512.00 MB Speed 533 Mhz Manufacturer NULL Data Width 64 bit Memory Type SDRAM Form Factor DIMM Name NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT Video Processor GeForce 9400 GT Manufacturer NVIDIA Video Architecture VGA DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC Memory Size 1.00 GB Memory Type Unknown Video Mode 1280 x 1024 x 4294967296 colors Current Refresh Rate 75 Hz Driver Version 8.17.12.8562 Driver Date 10/15/2011 Sound Device Name SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Manufacturer Analog Devices, Inc. Status OK Arma2 CO mods @CBA @CAA1_Full @JSRS @vopsound @gdtmod_grass_arma2 @MBG_WOO @lokilostkey @mcc_sandbox + numerous maps, vehicles, & weapon pbo's. Edited May 19, 2012 by Max Power massive post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 20, 2012 CPU Name Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz, NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT Minimal PC Requirements CPU: Dual Core Intel Pentium 4 3.0 GHz / 7800 (quite a bit faster than a 9400, check my sig) you do not pass min system requirements, and running on the minimum means barely playable, you being under it it's no wonder you have terrible performance. If you want reasonable performance you'll need a more powerfull rig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted May 20, 2012 Specs:CPU: P4 2.8Ghz GPU: 9400GT RAM: 2GB OS : Windows 7 Arma2 CO mods @CBA @CAA1_Full @JSRS @vopsound @gdtmod_grass_arma2 @MBG_WOO @lokilostkey @mcc_sandbox + numerous maps, vehicles, & weapon pbo's. That is a very old rig you got there. No wonder it looks like you are playing on your Amiga. While you pass the barely minimum req, you don't do it by a lot. That GPU and CPU of yours are really bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 20, 2012 it's below requirements pufu, the minimum is a dualcore and a 7800 series gpu, even the mobile 7800 beats a 9400GT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted May 20, 2012 it's below requirements pufu, the minimum is a dualcore and a 7800 series gpu, even the mobile 7800 beats a 9400GT. according to sproket: OS: Windows XP Processor: Intel Core 2.4 GHz or AMD Dual-Core Athlon 2.5 GHz Memory: 2 GB Graphics: Nvidia Geforce 8600GT or ATI Radeon 3650 or faster with Shader Model 3 and 512 MB VRAM Hard Drive: 20 GB free HDD space OS: Windows Vista / 7 Processor: Intel Core i5 or AMD Athlon Phenom X4 or faster Memory: 2 GB Graphics: Nvidia Geforce GTX 260 or ATI Radeon HD 5770 or faster with Shader Model 3 and 896 MB VRAM Hard Drive: 20 GB free HDD space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted May 20, 2012 well, a pentium 4 is not a "core" series cpu, it's quite a bit older and slower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted May 20, 2012 well, a pentium 4 is not a "core" series cpu, it's quite a bit older and slower. If you assume by "core", bis means intel core 2 duo, then i guess you are right. AFAIK, there is no intel named "core". Mispelling or not, they are probably talking about e6xxx series or anything above that (e7xxx series and e8xxx series). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
i2IDIUM 1 Posted May 20, 2012 Trying to decide between a GTX 480, 560, and 6870. Each of these are $220 at newegg. The 480 has tremendous performance, but I am hearing that the 4xx series was considered a dud in terms of noise and performance (in comparison to Radeons). I would love to get a 580 or 680 but that costs way too much. Even with the $220 is a bit beyond what I would like to spend. What do you guys recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Trying to decide between a GTX 480, 560, and 6870. Each of these are $220 at newegg. The 480 has tremendous performance, but I am hearing that the 4xx series was considered a dud in terms of noise and performance (in comparison to Radeons). I would love to get a 580 or 680 but that costs way too much. Even with the $220 is a bit beyond what I would like to spend. What do you guys recommend? 480s were great cards tbh - they are no louder than 580s and heat shouldn't be an issue if your box has good airflow/cooling. I've had several of them from several companies and never had any issues to speak of. They are probably one of the best deals around in terms of price/performance. Proper cooling and airflow are important though as they do not have the more efficient vapor chamber coolers (maybe on the aftermarket versions) that are on the 5xx and 6xx series. I never got them over 80c on air (and I had 2 of them sandwiched together) so unless you are in a really warm room etc, you shouldn't have any problems. I will add that as Leon said, if you are concerned about power consumption, the 480 is not the best choice. I was talking about price/performance, not energy efficiency. Edited May 22, 2012 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites