anonim092 10 Posted March 7, 2011 well, in that case let me post this link again.I'd get a gtx 560/570/580 depending on how much you want to spend. If you want to compare between brands (there's some different versions with other coolers and factory overclocks) you should look up a couple of reviews. nice link, really helpful, but in this list the author sai that gtx 470 and gtx 560 are very similar, but 470 is older, i think is cheaper than 560 right?, even 480 is better, but i don't have actual prices I think it's best to ask prices in my local stores, but at least now i have a good comparative, i can choose one card according to the price - quality, if i can afford it i will go for tier 2 or 3 i think, is hard to pick without knowing prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 7, 2011 the 470's aren't being made anymore. Some shops still have them and sell them at prices slightly below 560's. The 560 is usually faster and uses less power. Here in the netherlands you pay about 200 eu for a 560, 300 for a 570 and 400 for a 580. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauser_M4C 10 Posted March 9, 2011 Hey, I'm running a Zotac GeForce GT 430. Is there a good setting running this for ArmA II OA? It seems to get bogged down when I go in the gear section, map, or even hitting the escape button or going from Armory challenges. It takes about 30-45 seconds to before the game finds itself. After that it runs good with a few lag spikes here and there. Running at 2.7 Ghz on an AMD Athlon X2 64, 300 watts (damn dell), 4 G of Ram and two hard drives (one a standard 300G with 151 G of free space, and the second a 1T-byt). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rangerpl 13 Posted March 9, 2011 I think your CPU/hard drive is causing the problems you are having. The situations you described are all when your machine is loading something, so it seems the CPU can't cope and the hard drive might not be quick enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Van Dan 10 Posted March 10, 2011 hi people,I have this computer: MB Asus P7P55D-LE Proc I5-760 2.8 8mb l3 Mem 8 Gb ddr 3 Kingston Hd Segate 7200.12 1Tb Vga - Evga Gtx 460 1gb I want more performance for play on very higth settings, i think need buy 1 more gtx 460 going sli for get this ? tell me if i need any think more ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2011 hi people,I have this computer:MB Asus P7P55D-LE Proc I5-760 2.8 8mb l3 Mem 8 Gb ddr 3 Kingston Hd Segate 7200.12 1Tb Vga - Evga Gtx 460 1gb I want more performance for play on very higth settings, i think need buy 1 more gtx 460 going sli for get this ? tell me if i need any think more ? Your mobo doesnt support sli, the only way you can get it working is by using a hack. If you want to run at higher settings more gpu power will surely help. ---------- Post added at 10:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 AM ---------- Hey, I'm running a Zotac GeForce GT 430. Is there a good setting running this for ArmA II OA? It seems to get bogged down when I go in the gear section, map, or even hitting the escape button or going from Armory challenges. It takes about 30-45 seconds to before the game finds itself. After that it runs good with a few lag spikes here and there.Running at 2.7 Ghz on an AMD Athlon X2 64, 300 watts (damn dell), 4 G of Ram and two hard drives (one a standard 300G with 151 G of free space, and the second a 1T-byt). I dunno, gpu and cpu are both quite slow. Did you install arma on the 1TB harddrive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsiano 12 Posted March 10, 2011 @ Van Dan: Why dont you get a GTX570 ...problem solved and can always be put in SLI later if your system allows it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cannonouscrash 12 Posted March 10, 2011 Rather than the 570, look at the 6950/70 series from ATI, They're going to be cheaper than Nvidia from the right place. Failiing, sell a kidney and upgrade everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 10, 2011 Yah but slower, no PhysX, no 3Dvision and problematic drivers etc. The only good selling point for AMD is price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2011 There's no real price difference either, a 570 and a 6970 cost and perform sortof the same. 560 and 6950 are pretty much equal as well. For arma I'd go nvidia so you're able to run sli when you want to upgrade. I've heard nothing but horrorstories of Crossfire/arma. b.t.w. I just installed a second gtx260 and now my pc sounds like a fighterjet :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 10, 2011 Fan profiles are your friend :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namaan 10 Posted March 10, 2011 Evening all having spent the best part of the last week reading this ENTIRE thread, i'm looking for some pointers. i ran both the Arma2 benchmarks on my rig (specs in sig) with Post processing and AA disabled a view distance of 3600, all other settings on high,playing at 1024 X 768 in Benchmark 1 my average FPS was 34 Benchmark 2= 20fps my biggest issue= texture loading...i experience poor texture loading even at lower settings. i understand that hard disc speed is a factor in texture loading. my current HDD is a western digital Caviar blue SATA2 160gb (for OS and most used apps) any recommendations on a solution to the texture loading issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2011 Fan profiles are your friend :) The reason it's so loud is the previous owner who flashed a new bios in with higher clocks and voltages. I've already reflashed it with stable clocks (stalker cop crashed with old ones) and a fan profile that's more silent in idle, but I missed the voltage. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 10, 2011 The reason it's so loud is the previous owner who flashed a new bios in with higher clocks and voltages. I've already reflashed it with stable clocks (stalker cop crashed with old ones) and a fan profile that's more silent in idle, but I missed the voltage. :D Nice bud, SLI rox :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2011 Evening allhaving spent the best part of the last week reading this ENTIRE thread, i'm looking for some pointers. i ran both the Arma2 benchmarks on my rig (specs in sig) with Post processing and AA disabled a view distance of 3600, all other settings on high,playing at 1024 X 768 in Benchmark 1 my average FPS was 34 Benchmark 2= 20fps my biggest issue= texture loading...i experience poor texture loading even at lower settings. i understand that hard disc speed is a factor in texture loading. my current HDD is a western digital Caviar blue SATA2 160gb (for OS and most used apps) any recommendations on a solution to the texture loading issue? Bigger disks are a lot faster in steady state because of higher data density. This also helps with acces time as the texture files are closer together and the arm doesnt have to move that much. Samsung spinpoint F3 7200rpm 1TB disks have great price/performance, but if you dont have any space shortages and can spend twice that ammount you can get a crucial c300 60GB ssd, that'll dramatically reduce boot and loadtimes and is a good allround upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namaan 10 Posted March 10, 2011 so an SSD for my OS and apps would help, thanks for the input Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 10, 2011 so an SSD for my OS and apps would help, thanks for the input yeah I think so, the gpu and the system both have plenty memory so I doubt it's that. Moving from an ancient 160GB disk to a fast ssd will be be one of the most noticable upgrades you can do. ---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:47 PM ---------- Nice bud, SLI rox :D yeah, I've been playing crysis 1 demo near maxxed out (only 2x aa) the whole evening, pretty awesome :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted March 14, 2011 I have a question before I go to the store . What should I upgrade for best performance in Arma 2? Should I upgrade my CPU AMD phenon 965 3.4 to an i5-2500K? Or should I upgrade my GPU from GTX 275 to GTX 570? I cant upgrade both so please tell me what is the best upgrade right now. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted March 14, 2011 i'd get the 570 before hand. Your CPU should be able to play the game fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 14, 2011 I have a question before I go to the store .What should I upgrade for best performance in Arma 2? Should I upgrade my CPU AMD phenon 965 3.4 to an i5-2500K? Or should I upgrade my GPU from GTX 275 to GTX 570? I cant upgrade both so please tell me what is the best upgrade right now. Thank you Getting a better gpu will allow you to play with more eyecandy. If you already have a bit of eyecandy on your performance will increase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted March 15, 2011 i'd get the 570 before hand. Your CPU should be able to play the game fine Yep, you may get a bit low frames here and there when the CPU limits but you can switch as good as everything to max graphic wise. I use a Phenom 1 X4 9850 and even that is okayish combined with a good card so you should be fine with your Phenom II especially if it is a lil bit OCed. Personally i finally decided for the Asus EAH6950 Direct CUII as it has good performance on default, has some nice OC potencial and the fan system ( if you can live with the 3 slot design ) is great as it keeps the thing on 65 degrees even after half a hour of Furmark burn in without a noticeable increase of noise. Also the thing still has the bios switch and can be flashed ( only switched the shaders and didnt touch the voltage or OCed the rams ). In the end i even got the monster for a few euros less than a ref design card ( 225Eur in this case ) which i think is pretty amazing for what i got. Graphic wise i see no real difference to the GTX460 i used before and on high settigns the game really looks stunning. Btw before anyone moans about me being bit offtopic i may say that i also would have picked a GTX570 but dont really care for PhysX and 3D in games ( nor in movies... hello TRON2... ) and so got similar performance for like 80 Eur less but thats entirely up to you. If you finally decide for the GTX570 then get the Gigabyte GTX570 OC with the Windforce coolers, from what many tell me the thing is one of the most silent GTX570 out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nikiforos 450 Posted March 15, 2011 Ok thank you I will have a look for Gigabyte GTX 570. THanks for all the answers :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForthRight 10 Posted March 16, 2011 I need help with upgrading my PC, mainly for Arma 2. I don't overclock so please keep that in mind (everything running at stock speeds). I currently have, Intel Q8300 2.5 GHz CPU 4GB DDR2 RAM ATI 5870 GPU Vista 32bit I was considering getting a new motherboard with a i5 2500 CPU / 8GB DDR3 RAM /Win 7 64bit - would this make much difference to the framerate in Arma 2? My graphics card is still very good (i think), but someone on a different forum said to forget the new mobo/CPU etc and just upgrade to the new 6990 GPU for raw graphics power. I can only afford one or the other - the new mobo/CPU/RAM combo or the new 6990 card. Which would give the best performance increase in this game? As a side note - i've never known a game need this much power before, in order to look it's best. :eek: Thank you for any advice you can offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 16, 2011 My graphics card is still very good (i think), but someone on a different forum said to forget the new mobo/CPU etc and just upgrade to the new 6990 GPU for raw graphics power. crossfire and arma 2 is often a world of hurt. An i5-2500K with a decent s1155 P67 mobo and (at least 4GB) ram will be a great upgrade. It'll allow for greater viewdistance and keeping up performance with loads of ai in the area. A bigger gpu will get you more performance with "eyecandy-settings" all kinds of motion blurrs and stuff. But an 5870 is still a pretty good card for arma as long as you dont crossfire them. An expensive gpu upgrade (gtx 580) will get you a gpu that's about 40% faster? dunno, it's a guess. Anyway, upgrade the cpu first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 16, 2011 Further to what Leon said, dual GPU cards (6990) can be even more problematic than CF/SLI (2 or more separate cards), and not just with ArmA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites