ai refuses to get in

[vilas 477]

i was searching forum, but i couldn't find

i have very weird bug

even on vanila arma addons when i am teamleader my team refuses to get in vehicle

it happens even on BIS addons, like M113 from game, i am teamleader , i give the team order "get in" and no reaction at all

i observed this today, i had no this before

when AI has "way point" on vehicle, all is okay, but when player is teamleader, not

also problem appears when i am getting as leader to vehicle which i set up in editor as part of team

for example, i am officer, i set up m113, i set up 3 soldiers, i am geting to vehicle and crew leaves vehicle like they don't like me

i never had such thing

honestly i just changed VGA card since 1.14 install

[W0lle 1052]

vilas first of all, would you go easy with your smileys? It's not necessary to use 9 smiles in a post with 10 lines.

Just for you I tried it with vanilla ArmA 1.14, only QG loaded.

1. My squad and in front an AI controlled M113 (not in my group).

I select them and point on the M113 - They board it without any problems.

2. My squad and in front an empty M113.

I select them and point on the M113 - They board it without any problems.

3. I board the AI controlled M113, the crew stays in. Obviously they like me.

New gfx card surely doesn't cause this weird behaviour. Have you tried with just vanilla ArmA, no other mods loaded?

[vilas 477]

i wrote that on vanila arma it happens

only BIS addons in addon folder, nothing more,

i was making missions to P85 in 1.08, now after long time not touching missions i started to finish missions and i observed such behaviour

i know it is weir bug

like other bug that happens when "too fast" gun is dropped into box

but that is other issue, when for example i am droping rifle to ammo box and too fast (while droping) i am dropping pistol than... next weapon model is not shown and fire from empty hands

but thats not important here

important is that for uknown reason on vanilla arma soldiers refuse to get in and ignore order

i cut other than BIS addons into other folder and i checked it again

[Lester 0]

Hmmm ... all that sounds to me like a 'buggy configs strikes back' problem of one or more addons.

Thats a reason to work hard on a cleaned rpt.

[SWAT_BigBear 0]

Also, as team leader (if stuck in way point),

Give yourself (or him) radio command 0 (reply) 1 (done).

I see several players get pissed b/c their team will not follow orders, due to team leader gave himself a way point before issuing climb aboard/follow ect...... command.

Afterward, you can give out the way point/s.

[fasad 1]

Vilas, could you provide reproduction steps? Does either your group or the vehicle have waypoints, etc?

There is an issue in ArmA with vehicles and the effective commander of groups, but it is not as simple as it won't work in any case.

[vilas 477]

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== D:\ARMA\arma.exe

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Exe version: Thu May 22 13:57:19 2008

build 1.14.5256

Item STR_03s01 listed twice

Item STR_LIB_HILUX listed twice

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Updating base class ->Default, by ca\anims\characters\config.bin/CfgMovesBasic/DefaultDie/

Updating base class ->Default, by ca\anims\characters\config.bin/CfgMovesMaleSdr/States/Crew/

Updating base class ->MGunCore, by ca\weapons\config.bin/cfgWeapons/MGun/

Error: No OpenAL 1.1 device found

=====================================================================

== D:\ARMA\arma.exe

=====================================================================

Exe version: Thu May 22 13:57:19 2008

build 1.14.5256

Item STR_03s01 listed twice

Item STR_LIB_HILUX listed twice

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Unsupported language Polish in stringtable

Updating base class ->Default, by ca\anims\characters\config.bin/CfgMovesBasic/DefaultDie/

Updating base class ->Default, by ca\anims\characters\config.bin/CfgMovesMaleSdr/States/Crew/

Updating base class ->MGunCore, by ca\weapons\config.bin/cfgWeapons/MGun/

Error: No OpenAL 1.1 device found

[DirkGent 0]

Check your sound drivers. I had an issue when the sound driver for my Creative SB X-fi did not work properly. Currently using version 6.0.1.1361 and that is working fine. If the sound driver is not working you might end up having AI not obeying your orders.

[desertjedi 3]

Vilas, I get the problem too every now and then. It can be one man saying "Negative" or an entire squad. It mostly involves entering vehicles but I think I remember the problem associated with even simpler actions for your men to take.

Once when no one in my squad would enter a Striker, I changed the squad's status to "Safe" and after that, they all got in the Striker. At least I think that's what I remember doing.

I also have problems sometimes getting 11 men in a Striker total. Sometimes it works, sometimes the 11th man can't get in - doesn't fit?

I haven't played too long but I have seen some really weird behavior with the AI.

[vilas 477]

but still i don't know what to do, before 1.08 game was unplayable because of ctd and loosing textures, 1.08 was super, after 1.14 i had so much problems that i had to change VGA, now i cannot let team to enter vehicle , opnly 1.08 was working good without problems

really if i was not making models in oxygen, nothing would convince me to play it and had it on hd :/

i cannot remember how situation looked like before VGA change , but in 1.08 i started to make missions for mod P85, now i cannot test those missions cause team in which there is a player as commander refuses to enter any vehicle

[archsceptic 21]

I've had this bug for ages, I dont know if it was introduced by an addon or by a patch. Seems to happen most in user made missions.

Also I have team members welded to the ground sometimes refusing to move, to go anywhere or do anything.

Patched to 1.14, of course.

[vilas 477]

i was making only models, i had no time to test 1.14

now when i started to make mission i found this bug (no custom addons in addon folder)

now it seems my game is unplaybel again

it was only working between 1.00 -1.04 with "textures appearing after half second"

and ONLY 1.08 was working without problems

goddamn, it is only game in my life that is not working althought patching all the time and worse with every patch

[DirkGent 0]

If you command the group members to move, do they obey?

Do you get a response like "Roger" or just nothing (no sound etc)?

[william1 0]

i'd unistall the whole game and install it again, maybe you have some corrupt file that avoids the game to run fine.

[vilas 477]

i cannot reinstal cause "disc orginallity check" while starting before 1.09b broke my dics with scrathes (Polish version had such of Starforce that disc was turning like crazy for some seconds to start game or to start oxygen viewer)

if not 1.09 beta, i couldn't be able to launch tools

also i was not able to start game till disc-check was removed in patch 1.14 as i remember

i will not be buying the same game again because it checks 15 seconds disc to start

in home i will check do they move

but when i am giving order get in, they do not report "roger"

they do nothing, they move with me

but they obey 1-1 (back to formation)

today i will check whether they obey "stay 1-7" and etc.

[vilas 477]

all works today???

is it possible that there is a virus or what that causes random working of game ?

cause everyday all works good

[DirkGent 0]

That is really strange but congratulations!

[kroky 1]

This bug is omnipersistent in ArmA.

Sometimes you simply have (if you can) to move the vehicle about 1m or more and the AI will board the vehicle.

The same problem occurs when AI following you (as the leader) and sometimes they get stuck in buildings. Nothing helps to get them out of the buildings and to follow you or to go to a certain location.

The only 2 workaround for this problem I found:

- go to M (map) select the unit and drop all weapons for this unit, then the unit will move again to whatever location you desire

sometimes even this doesnt help, then:

(you have to have SLX mod installed)

- Shoot this unit in legs, until the unit gets on ground and is draggable, then drag the unit out of the spot, where it refuses to move, heal it, and then from the new position the unit will carry out your commands...

I know this is really painful, and still one of the biggest bugs in ArmA, even after 1.14 patch...

[vilas 477]

YOU WILL NOT BELIVE !!!

maybe it will help BIS in further develompent

error is caused by internet comunicator

we have Polish internet comunicator called "tlen" which means "oxygen"

when my comunicator is on , AI REFUSES TO GET IN ANY VEHICLES

when comunicator is turned off, AI gets in and follow orders

whyyyyyyyy ????

[NoRailgunner 0]

Newsflash: ArmA AI plays warfare with Polish internet comunicator!  

[vilas 477]

of AI anti-cheating mechanism brokes something

because maybe some comunication-orders of comunicator changes AI obeying orders