Lepardi 0 Posted August 8, 2008 what is the latest for the PCI Express X-Fi Xtreme Audio? Your card is not X-Fi. It's audigy with a new name, so maybe the newest audigy drivers fit. Look from creative site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted August 8, 2008 what is the latest for the PCI Express X-Fi Xtreme Audio? Your card is not X-Fi. It's audigy with a new name, so maybe the newest audigy drivers fit. Look from creative site. If anyone is unsure what they have go to the creative website and run the auto updater. It will search to see what you have and find the latetest for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 8, 2008 Install the original drivers from the CD, and then install the betas over that. I know that with X-Fi drivers that's how it is suppose to be done. You mean without removing the drivers with driversweeper and any such program? Just let the new install remove the old drivers? Yes. The drivers on the creative site are sometimes only updates meant to be installed over CD drivers. They don't include all the stuff from the CD online. And when something needs to be uninstalled, the installer for the newer drivers will do it for you. It's unlikely that you will have problems by not using driversweeper or something like it. I never bother Thanks for the clearifiction, I always installed my sounddrivers like that already but I was wondering what exactly was behind your comment. Now all is clear I agree with Dwarden, these drivers got my pleasure of playing arma up with 100% Lets hope when their next version is released we can say Arma is perfect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee_h._oswald 0 Posted August 8, 2008 for Audigy 1,2 there are different drivers from 17 Julhttp://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx# SBAX_PCDRV_LB_2_18_0001.exe Thanks you for this information! Installed them few minutes ago. MfG Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nubbin77 0 Posted August 8, 2008 Q, This might sound extreme, but I had something like that happen to me before. Like it almost can't physically detect the card. I had to take my sound card out. Restart. Then shutdown, then reinsert the card and restart, then it detected it again. I know it would be a pain in the ass solution, and there's no logic to it, but it worked for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted August 10, 2008 for Audigy 1,2 there are different drivers from 17 Julhttp://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx# SBAX_PCDRV_LB_2_18_0001.exe Thanks you for this information! Installed them few minutes ago. MfG Lee glad to help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasad 1 Posted August 10, 2008 I still have "underwater sounds" (extremely muffled sounds) if I enable EAX. Is that still normal? Can anyone please confirm that enabling EAX will result in extremely muffled sounds for any sound source without line of sight with the player, when using an XFi card (specifically the "fatality extreme gamer pro" or whatever it's ridiculous name is)? My old computer had the same issue, with an Audigy 2ZS, which makes me think this effect may be by design rather than a bug? I have recorded a sample of the problem here: ArmA_EAX (65KB) The player has LOS with some of the shots, but most are behind a tin shed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 22 Posted August 10, 2008 It is a feature, so that firefights on the other side of the city or behind a hill don't sound like the one next to you. The problem is that a single object sometimes has the same impact as a hill. It does sound like this here. X-Fi with EAX, no sound mods. First burst is me firing, #2 is ~50m away in plain sight, #3 behind some buildings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted August 10, 2008 Yup, ArmA 'feature' Sadly the sound occlusion already kicks in with a bush or a tree between you and the origin, even standing beneath a terrain slope just 2 or 3 meters away from the source the sound will be muffled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted August 10, 2008 i suggest you try SVM enabled / disabled because SVN 'keeps' sound levels in certain volume range thus too quiet are louder and too loud are quieter w/o SVM usually close sounds are very loud and distant are really very quiet ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted August 10, 2008 What is svn and where can i dis-/enable it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted August 11, 2008 What is svn and where can i dis-/enable it? Â SVM (probably what Dwarden meant) = Smart Volume Management. Should be in Creative Console Launcher as well as Audio Console if you have them installed, look in the Start menu under "Creative". I never use it though. I guess it's good if you have the volume lower so that most sounds are still audible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infam0us 10 Posted August 11, 2008 I never use it though. I guess it's good if you have the volume lower so that most sounds are still audible. Really, when I'm playing music myself it sounds horrible without it switched on ... it's all distorted and overlapping levels of sound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted August 11, 2008 I never use it though. I guess it's good if you have the volume lower so that most sounds are still audible. Really, when I'm playing music myself it sounds horrible without it switched on ... it's all distorted and overlapping levels of sound. I get great sound with it switched off All it does is limit the dynamic range of the sound, I just tested it and it only did what I expected. What sound hardware (speakers/headphones) have you got? I notice that it does seem to lower the overall volume when switched on, so if you disable it then you should probably lower your volume a bit too. I don't see any sound quality difference with it on or off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asch 0 Posted August 12, 2008 i dont use any of this effects (svm, crystalizer, equalizer) even for music/videos. it doesnt sound better with all these features, it just sounds different imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infam0us 10 Posted August 12, 2008 I get great sound with it switched off All it does is limit the dynamic range of the sound, I just tested it and it only did what I expected. What sound hardware (speakers/headphones) have you got? I notice that it does seem to lower the overall volume when switched on, so if you disable it then you should probably lower your volume a bit too. I don't see any sound quality difference with it on or off. I'm using a Medusa 5.1 Surround Sound Headset. And I too have noticed it does make the sound quieter when you switch it on, but perhaps more clearer. How far do you have your volume knob turned up on the console because I have mine all the way up with the bass 3 quarters on, and the treble all the way up. Any further and the bass starts to sound like a cheap car stereo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted August 12, 2008 I'm using a Medusa 5.1 Surround Sound Headset. And I too have noticed it does make the sound quieter when you switch it on, but perhaps more clearer.How far do you have your volume knob turned up on the console because I have mine all the way up with the bass 3 quarters on, and the treble all the way up. Any further and the bass starts to sound like a cheap car stereo. Volume at 45%, bass and treble at 60% with equaliser set to a slightly modified version of 'Rock'. In the mixer I have Wave playback at 100%. Sennheiser HD515 stereo headphones. That gives decent volume with SVM off. If I had it on then I would turn the volume up to make up for it. The volume you get might be different due to different headphones. Yours are 5.1 so maybe they need the extra power. I guess those headphones would sound a bit different to mine at the same settings. When trying with SVM off, turn down the volume. Maybe it's the high volume causing the noticeable distortion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infam0us 10 Posted August 12, 2008 Volume at 45%, bass and treble at 60% with equaliser set to a slightly modified version of 'Rock'.In the mixer I have Wave playback at 100%. Sennheiser HD515 stereo headphones. That gives decent volume with SVM off. If I had it on then I would turn the volume up to make up for it. The volume you get might be different due to different headphones. Yours are 5.1 so maybe they need the extra power. I guess those headphones would sound a bit different to mine at the same settings. When trying with SVM off, turn down the volume. Maybe it's the high volume causing the noticeable distortion. Possibly, what other settings do you use on it aswell? Personally music sounds much better for me when I put it on 4.1 Mode, might be because of my Surroundsound Headset though? EAX Effects make no difference, other than making everything sound like it has a echo. X-Fi Crystallizer Makes it sound crisper for me And I stick my EQ on Dance, as its what I normally play through it .. I personally find it a bit overwhelming with all the settings that you can change to try and get the best settings, although I'm happy at the moment when I can locate people ingame just by sound where my friends only hear noise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasad 1 Posted August 12, 2008 Thanks to $cruffy and Mr Burns for confirming it as a feature. It was a nice idea to model sound occlusion, but it either works extremely poorly on Creative hardware or BI really overdid it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odjob 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Thanks to $cruffy and Mr Burns for confirming it as a feature. It was a nice idea to model sound occlusion, but it either works extremely poorly on Creative hardware or BI really overdid it. I agree. The sound oclusion "feature" is a nice concept but not very well implemented. For example a helicopter is very loud but a small bush or a lamp-pole make it sound like its behind a hill. In my opinion it (sound oclusion) should have been limited to terrain only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted August 13, 2008 Possibly, what other settings do you use on it aswell?Personally music sounds much better for me when I put it on 4.1 Mode, might be because of my Surroundsound Headset though? EAX Effects make no difference, other than making everything sound like it has a echo. X-Fi Crystallizer Makes it sound crisper for me And I stick my EQ on Dance, as its what I normally play through it .. Crystalliser at 50%, default. 100% sounds good too, it's just that I can't decide which I like more 100% might be better for games, to enhance loud sounds like gunshots. I use CMSS 3D since I use stereo headphones, gives a perfect 'simulation' of surround sound for games and music. Awesome being able to even tell if a sound is above or below you EAX is set to 'none'. It's pointless for music. Of course I turn it on in games. Quote[/b] ]I personally find it a bit overwhelming with all the settings that you can change to try and get the best settings, although I'm happy at the moment when I can locate people ingame just by sound where my friends only hear noise Yea settings are a pain. but it's great once you've found a setup that you like. Quote[/b] ]Thanks to $cruffy and Mr Burns for confirming it as a feature. It was a nice idea to model sound occlusion, but it either works extremely poorly on Creative hardware or BI really overdid it. It's not because it's overdone, but just because the implementation is basic. It just based on whether you have LOS or not, it doesn't take into account whether it's a bush or a hill blocking the view. What I would like even more than that feature is if sound could be altered based on distance, simulating that low frequencies travel further than high frequencies. That would make a huge difference IMO. Maybe a possibility for ArmA 2? I don't know if it's easy to implement or if it would introduce problems though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaOk 112 Posted August 19, 2008 Where I can find these drivers? I went to creative.com but newest driver for X-Fi Audio is dated 2 Apr 08 (1.04.0079). :S I have had problems with sounds. I cannot hear engine if I am in a vehicle when EAX and Hardware is "on". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted September 4, 2008 i can hear vehicles half way across the map now? anyway to fix this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted September 5, 2008 i can hear vehicles half way across the map now? anyway to fix this? turn down your EAX effects to -20 or lower. This is in the Creative console, in Mixer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted September 7, 2008 i can hear vehicles half way across the map now? anyway to fix this? turn down your EAX effects to -20 or lower. This is in the Creative console, in Mixer. hmm i just reinstalled the drivers and now it works nice. thanks anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites