.kju 3244 Posted October 29, 2007 Preface Quote[/b] ]NOT RECOMMENDED TO BE USED IN MULTIPLAYER! THIS WILL BE CONSIDER CHEATING! NOT TESTED IN MULTIPLAYER - THERE IS ALWAYS THE CHANCE TO CRASH THE SERVER WITH MODIFIED DATA - DON'T USE IT IN MP. PERIOD. If the server and all clients would use it, it is a different matter of course. Projects: <ul> [*] PROPER Anims Fast Forward Transition [*] PROPER Anims Working Healing Animation [*] PROPER Effects Damage And Sea Texture Replacement Sakura Chan (large; needs to be installed / built) [*] PROPER Gameplay Object SupplyRadius Expanded [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound Mine Explosion Sound Effect Added [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound SoundFly Reworked [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound SupersonicCrack Effect Removed [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound TreeHit Added [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle All White Radar Signature PvP [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle GetInRadius Expanded [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle InsideSoundCoef [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle Lock AI [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Alarm Sound [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Eject Action [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Switch Seat Action [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle OccludeAndObstructSounds [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle StartEngine Disabled [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Disperion Disabled [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Dot Crosshair hedcrusha [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon HandGrenadeTimed Explosion OnImpact [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon No Dexterity [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Sway Reworked [*] PROPER UI Audio Options Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Campaigns Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Compass Size Expanded [*] PROPER UI Difficulty Options Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI InGameUI Cursor Color Changed [*] PROPER UI Instant Map Object Zoom [*] PROPER UI Key Configuration Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Main Menu Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Menu Click Sound [*] PROPER UI Missions Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI MP Lobby Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI MPTable Redesign [*] PROPER UI No ActionIcons [*] PROPER UI No Loading Anim [*] PROPER UI No LoadingPic [*] PROPER UI No PeripheralVision [*] PROPER UI No Progress Bar [*] PROPER UI SelectIslands Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Solid Black Ingame Menus Background CSL [*] PROPER UI Speedup Gear [*] PROPER UI Speedup RscMapControl [*] PROPER UI Video Options Redesign [*] PROPER World Desert Island Instant IntroAnims [*] PROPER World Sahrani Rahmadi Instant IntroAnims Change log: Quote[/b] ]2007-11-18 * Added PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER Anims Fast Forward Transition * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Vehicle InsideSoundCoef Sound inside armored vehicles reduced even more. * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Alarm Sound Removed the alarm sound for helicopters and planes as well. * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP Su is one-seater now. The pilot can control all weapons by default and lock with the guided rockets again (fix). The AH-1W pilot has now control of guided and unguided missiles and therefore can lock with guided rockets again (fix). * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Weapon Disperion Disabled Vehicle recoil returned to ArmA default values. 2007-11-10 * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound TreeHit Added * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Eject Action * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Switch Seat Action * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Disperion Disabled * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Dot Crosshair hedcrusha * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Sway Reworked * Added PROPER UI Compass Size Expanded * Added PROPER UI InGameUI Cursor Color Changed * Added PROPER UI Instant Map Object Zoom * Added PROPER UI Solid Black Ingame Menus Background CSL * Added PROPER UI Speedup RscMapControl * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP Finally all non guided weapon can no longer be locked. All guided (missiles) can. 2007-11-02 * Added PROPER Gameplay Object SupplyRadius Expanded * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound Mine Explosion Sound Effect Added * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound SoundFly Reworked * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound SupersonicCrack Effect Removed * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle GetInRadius Expanded * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon HandGrenadeTimed Explosion OnImpact * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon No Dexterity * Added PROPER UI Audio Options Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Campaigns Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Difficulty Options Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Key Configuration Dialog Redesign * Fixed PROPER UI Main Menu Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Missions Dialog Redesign * Fixed PROPER UI No PeripheralVision: blood splash was not completely removed (small transparent black square texture was still visible). * Added PROPER UI No Progress Bar * Added PROPER UI SelectIslands Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER World Desert Island Instant IntroAnims 2007-10-30 * Added PROPER World Sahrani Rahmadi Instant IntroAnims * Fixed PROPER Anims Working Healing Animation: Wrong include path made it completely non functional. Sorry about that! Notes: <ul> [*]Head over to the BIKI. Our project site is the first place for you to look at. You will find all the information about our projects there - only there! Every project has a short description and a set of sample screenshots or videos to visualize the changes or additions. PROPER Mod BIKI project site: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PROPER:Mod [*]Feel free to make mirrors of the many single files. Yet we want to ask you to either encourage your readers strongly to visit our BIKI site or you should make the informations from the BIKI site available on your site as well. In other words, we don't want to have people download the addons without having them aware of the actual content and the way it is supposed to work. [*]"Learn from the configs" section on the BIKI site should motivate you to get into config editing yourself. Take our and other people's work as an example, learn and ask! [*]Deliberately the functionality is split into many small addons, so that everyone can select what he likes and what not. Each addon can be used individually. [*]Many UI projects are based on the PROPER UI preview we gave some weeks ago. It has been polished a bit and most importantly split into various single packages, so that everyone can select for himself. More stuff on the way here. [*]Expect a few updates on individual / specific addons of this pack, as well as additions in the future. There are still quite a few in pipe. [*]Signature files will be provided soon for each individual addon, each pack (Anims, UI and Gameplay) and maybe for each pbo version (not sure about that one yet). Remind me please, if I forget about it. [*]You will find a few recommendations about other peoples work with go well together with our work on our BIKI site soon. [*]Feel free to integrate these addons in your mod / addon etc. Credits should be noted though! [*]Feel free to make suggestions on other useful changes to the rough ArmA. enjoy Q Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted October 30, 2007 The PROPER:Mod BIKI page has been reorganized to make it more clearly arranged and icons have been added to indicate the type of the preview media (image, video, sound). A few screenshots of the updated UI here as well. More info to be found at the BIKI page. enjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chops 111 Posted October 30, 2007 Good work! Anything from anyone associated with WGL is well worth a look! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malick 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Excellent ! I really appreciate PROPER mods as a very handy tool in order to improve gameplay. As there are some other mods aiming for the same level of improvement (like TrueMod, for example), how is this going to work/conflict together ? Or, is a mixed mod (PROPER+True) on the way ? Looking forward to your next improvements ! Malick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted October 30, 2007 Very nice, thank you! Some goldnuggets here! Qs: PROPER Gameplay Vehicle All White Radar Signature PvP PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP Why is this PvP only? Do it affect AI also? If so, a player only mode, if possible, would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raedor 8 Posted October 30, 2007 Very nice, thank you!Some goldnuggets here! Qs: PROPER Gameplay Vehicle All White Radar Signature PvP PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP Why is this PvP only? Do it affect AI also? If so, a player only mode, if possible, would be great. http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PROPER:Mod#What_about_AI_and_PVP_tags.3F Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted October 30, 2007 Quote[/b] ]PvP tag means the addon is recommended only for human vs human (no AI) play. Why is PvP recommended for human VS human only? Is the AI affected or what? I would like to play with all white radar signatures in SP and coop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted October 31, 2007 Quote[/b] ]how is this going to work/conflict together ?Or, is a mixed mod (PROPER+True) on the way ? Rg (TrueMods) made an excellent structure for his projects as well! So he separated each project in an individual config almost as granular as we do. So in general it depends on the combination of each individual pbo. In short most stuff should work together without problems. However some PROPER UI projects might collide with his TrueUI v1.0 (TrueCrosshair-Cadet and TrueInGameUI in the future with new projects from us). We will provide a list on compatibility problems in the BIKI in the future (either use A or B). In the end technically it depends on the modfolder order like written on our the BIKI page and if both addons overwritten the same values or classes (mixed UI in example). Quote[/b] ]Why is PvP recommended for human VS human only? Is the AI affected or what? PROPER Gameplay Vehicle All White Radar Signature PvP PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP The first disables radar / tab locking. The second one disables locking for all non guided weapons in general. This makes combat vs AI way harder inside vehicles - especially inside air units. Only you as a player/human are effected. The AI under your command as well as enemy AI isn't. So it is merely a recommendation. You are free to do what you prefer. ----- You can find one update and one new addition of the BIKI page: Quote[/b] ]2007-10-30 * Added PROPER World Sahrani Rahmadi Instant IntroAnims * Fixed PROPER Anims Working Healing Animation: Wrong include path made it completely non functional. Sorry about that! ----- Small note for new site posters. Thanks for your hard work. You are doing an excellent job! Can you please point to this thread in your future news about PROPER projects as well (BIKI + BI forum). Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ricki 0 Posted October 31, 2007 where is the PROPER_UI_Speedup_RscMapControl from first release ? is it nomore supported ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted October 31, 2007 It will get an update first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted November 2, 2007 Added a few new ones: Quote[/b] ]2007-11-02 * Added PROPER Gameplay Object SupplyRadius Expanded * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound Mine Explosion Sound Effect Added * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound SoundFly Reworked * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound SupersonicCrack Effect Removed * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle GetInRadius Expanded * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon HandGrenadeTimed Explosion OnImpact * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon No Dexterity * Added PROPER UI Audio Options Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Campaigns Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Difficulty Options Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Key Configuration Dialog Redesign * Fixed PROPER UI Main Menu Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER UI Missions Dialog Redesign * Fixed PROPER UI No PeripheralVision: blood splash was not completely removed (small transparent black square texture was still visible). * Added PROPER UI No Progress Bar * Added PROPER UI SelectIslands Dialog Redesign * Added PROPER World Desert Island Instant IntroAnims Check our PROPER Mod BIKI project site for more details: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PROPER:Mod Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted November 2, 2007 CFT / CQB should test this addon: PROPER Gameplay Weapon No Dexterity Quote[/b] ]Reduces vertical weapon sway for all infantry weapons besides launcher type weapons. Horizontal weapon sway does hardly exist (or not at all) for non launcher type weapons. So the delay is mainly / solely related to ones mouse sensitivity settings. Gives the player a lot more direct mouse control over the weapon. More precise weapon control demo video Also note these tips: Quote[/b] ]In addition you are recommended to double the y axis sensitivity value(mouseSensitivityY) based on your x axis value (mouseSensitivityX). The values are to be found in your "YourUser.ArmAprofile" file. Thanks to Ryan for the tip! Quote[/b] ]The floatingZoneArea should be set to the very left (equals zero) toofloatingZoneArea=0.000000; in order to get the best direct mouse control over the weapon. PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign Quote[/b] ]Complete redesign of the old gear dialog. Design goal is to make it convenient to use and not block the the players view as much as possible: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted November 3, 2007 I must say that I appreciate this! You really have fixed some small issues that have annoyed me And the best is that you have it modular so I can pick whatever I want to use or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flat!!! 0 Posted November 3, 2007 Should also be noted that the gear thingy is not compatible with Truemods ingameUI, however I simply modified the ingameui and removed the gear stuff Good job Proper mod Can't wait to see what will be next Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyCat 131 Posted November 7, 2007 I must say that I appreciate this!You really have fixed some small issues that have annoyed me And the best is that you have it modular so I can pick whatever I want to use or not. I second that, some real nuggets found in that long list. Thanks for sharing Q greatly appreciated! /KC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malick 0 Posted November 8, 2007 Some very useful things to play with... Playing with config is very interesting and rewarding, as a single coefficient can dramatically change the game experience ! I have a slight remark/request though: the Queen's Gambit splash/loading screens are still there. Do you plan on updating the PROPER_UI with them ? Otherwise, what do I have to change to remove them ? Thanks ! Malick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted November 8, 2007 I load QG before @proper, and I have the proper UI (pun?). I also use -nosplash to get rid of the splashscreen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malick 0 Posted November 9, 2007 I have the same loading order and the -nosplash command in the shortcut. However, I still have QG's loading screens (on mission/map loading, not splash screen on game opening). It's not really a terrible problem, however Malick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted November 10, 2007 Added a few new ones: Quote[/b] ]2007-11-10 * Added PROPER Gameplay Sound TreeHit Added * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Eject Action * Added PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Switch Seat Action * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Disperion Disabled * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Dot Crosshair hedcrusha * Added PROPER Gameplay Weapon Sway Reworked * Added PROPER UI Compass Size Expanded * Added PROPER UI InGameUI Cursor Color Changed * Added PROPER UI Instant Map Object Zoom * Added PROPER UI Solid Black Ingame Menus Background CSL * Added PROPER UI Speedup RscMapControl * Fixed PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP Finally all non guided weapon can no longer be locked. All guided (missiles) can. Check our PROPER Mod BIKI project site for more details: http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PROPER:Mod Sample packages: PROPER_Gameplay.rar (482KB) contains: <ul> [*] PROPER Anims Working Healing Animation [*] PROPER Gameplay Object SupplyRadius Expanded [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound Mine Explosion Sound Effect Added [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound SoundFly Reworked [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound SupersonicCrack Effect Removed [*] PROPER Gameplay Sound TreeHit Added [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle GetInRadius Expanded [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle InsideSoundCoef [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle Lock AI [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Alarm Sound [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle OccludeAndObstructSounds [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle StartEngine Disabled [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Disperion Disabled [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Dot Crosshair hedcrusha [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon HandGrenadeTimed Explosion OnImpact [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon No Dexterity [*] PROPER Gameplay Weapon Sway Reworked [*] PROPER UI Compass Size Expanded [*] PROPER UI Gear Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI InGameUI Cursor Color Changed [*] PROPER UI Instant Map Object Zoom [*] PROPER UI Menu Click Sound [*] PROPER UI MPTable Redesign [*] PROPER UI No ActionIcons [*] PROPER UI No PeripheralVision [*] PROPER UI Solid Black Ingame Menus Background CSL [*] PROPER UI Speedup RscMapControl [*] PROPER World Sahrani Rahmadi Instant IntroAnims PROPER_UI_Redesign.rar (820KB) contains: <ul> [*] PROPER UI Audio Options Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Campaigns Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Difficulty Options Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Key Configuration Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Main Menu Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Missions Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI MP Lobby Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI No LoadingPic [*] PROPER UI No Loading Anim [*] PROPER UI No Progress Bar [*] PROPER UI SelectIslands Dialog Redesign [*] PROPER UI Video Options Redesign Missing from both: <ul> [*] PROPER Effects Damage And Sea Texture Replacement Sakura Chan (large; needs to be installed / built) [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle All White Radar Signature PvP [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Eject Action [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Lock PvP [*] PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Switch Seat Action [*] PROPER World Desert Island Instant IntroAnims Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackknight.au 0 Posted November 10, 2007 PROPER Gameplay Vehicle No Eject Action ... why? What happens when you take fire in an aircraft and have to eject? Dispersion mod - some weapons are desgined to fire with a beaten zone like M240 or just aren't that accurate, like the PSO. Sticking a scope on an AK doesn't make it any more accurate. Some of the mods are great like the vehicles coef sounds, but seriously, no ejection?? WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rg 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks for all this stuff. There quite a few goodies in these packs. I love that you separated everything to pick and choose. I did noticed a few issues with a couple of the addons... --------------------------------------------- PROPER_Gameplay_Vehicle_No_Eject_Action.pbo ---------------------------------------------- I love it for land vehicles, but this gets rid of the possibility to eject when flying. No way to bail to save your life. I am not sure if it's possible to differentiate which vehicle can have the option or not, but it's something you might want to look into. ----------------------------------------- PROPER_UI_Instant_Map_Object_Zoom.pbo ------------------------------------------ It works, but there seems to be a bug. If you double-click and move the "bigger" object around the screen, you can't double-click to shrink it again. It will always stay big. Not sure if there is anyway to fix that though. Anyways, great stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyCat 131 Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks for the update Q! Will see if there are any new usefull stuff... Dispersion mod - some weapons are desgined to fire with a beaten zone like M240 or just aren't that accurate, like the PSO. Sticking a scope on an AK doesn't make it any more accurate. Some of the mods are great like the vehicles coef sounds, but seriously, no ejection?? WTF Â @Blackknight.au I don't really understand why you are getting worked up and complaining!? If you don't like it do not use it! It's simple like that and goes for all usermade mods/addons/scripts/whatever! Instead you should be thankfull there are people working on stuff to improve/enhance ArmA and share it with us in the community even if you don't like a particular mod/addon/script/whatever. Comments like above just make you look like a spoiled brat! /KC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted November 10, 2007 I have the same loading order and the -nosplash command in the shortcut. However, I still have QG's loading screens (on mission/map loading, not splash screen on game opening).It's not really a terrible problem, however Malick I must correct myself.. I also get the QG loading screens (I thought it belonged to the campaign I played.. ) For now I like them, but I guess I prefer som PROPER hand on QG soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3244 Posted November 10, 2007 Quote[/b] ]I love it for land vehicles, but this gets rid of the possibility to eject when flying. No way to bail to save your life. I am not sure if it's possible to differentiate which vehicle can have the option or not, but it's something you might want to look into. Problem is that you either deactivate it for all or not at all. Even more you can add the ability to eject in planes and helos via script. If you don't want to have people fast eject from vehicles while they are still driving or you want to force helos to land to unload their cargo, use this addon. Quote[/b] ]It works, but there seems to be a bug. If you double-click and move the "bigger" object around the screen, you can't double-click to shrink it again. It will always stay big. Not sure if there is anyway to fix that though. Correct. It doesn't happen all the time though. In addition the issue is a bit different. ArmA somehow can no longer remember the initial position of the map object at times. You need to drag the object to another place on the map. It should work again after that. Quote[/b] ]Dispersion mod Matter of taste and depends what you are aiming for. Try this addon in combination with expanded weapon sway and the recoils of Q1184. Works quite well IMHO - demanding AND rewarding AND enjoyable weapon handling. Quote[/b] ]QG loading screens Yupp. Expect a small addon for that too... once I finally installed QG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
