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Too me the sounds are just fine but I've never fired an Ak74 myself.

Just a thought, are you going for "just good sounding sounds" or perhaps consider how Chammys sound mod is approaching it.

cool or realistic sounding in other words. Maybe his sound mod might have something you guys might want to use for your weapons?

Just thinking outloud. smile_o.gif

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What a load of Russian small arms!

And the soldier skins are also top quality.

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Oh, I see, I see...Yeah, guys, i'm brutal evil commie, eating several democrats-foreigners everyday for my breakfast. Too skinny for me, if to be honest.

Think that way if you want - I won't give a cent for this. My posts is a discussion with examples. If you don't like it - than I can't do anything to satisfy you.

Quote[/b] ]btw using an mp5 is great when you dont want people to know where your unit is from

Bwahahaha, someone is die-hard fan of Tom Clansy's Rainbow Six story? Hereford, Chaves and MP5A10, anyone? crazy_o.gif

Alfa is not needed to be traced by someone. It's official functions is counter-terrorism now. And our black ops, capable of eliminating someone secretly will not showdown themselves - so you even won't know what groups of such purpose are currently under GRU's or FSB's commandment.

So, your sentence about "using MP5, so noone can trace anyone" is more right for a fictious Rainbow Six, which masked under world's counter terrorist groups. And this is not a scenario for ArmA either - it focused on commonwarfare military field operations. And from what can I judge from guys, what were in Chechnya SVD is enough - try to hunt down terrorists in Caucasian mountain with AWM or TRG or SV - it's too damned uncomfortable, if you know what I mean. That seriously reduce possible scenarios, when even SV-98 may be in use.

Quote[/b] ]Ive browsed the Russian forums a number times and this kinda talk (being rude as hell) is quite normal over there.

You don't like it? So, you don't need to browse it. Easy option, eh?

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Ok, now back to sniper topic. Here's the protocol of CIS sniper contest. All sorts of Russian MVD\FSB (diffirent regions) teams and 2 teams from Belorussia (Almaz of their MVD and Alfa of their KGB) and Ukraine (SBU team):

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(click here to enlarge)

You can't read cyrillic? Then find a "weapons used" column. You can see russian SV-98 and finnish TRG-22 prevail - not AWM. For example guys from Ukraine used IZHMASH's Record-1 rifle - remade from sport rifle for 7.62*54R bullet - so I think even this gun is an option too.

However, this was just to close topics about this ******* sniper rifles - we already discussed everything with teammates and understood each other.

P.S.:Sorry for this struggle, Mr. Moderator.

my grandfather was in the soviet army and rfa for 60 years there are times when you dont want to be traced you know nothing of your own governments covert ops do you the most recent commonly known situation was russias involvment in the first gulf war but to think russia hasnt performed ops inside of europe and asia is stupid and its true you could always kill everyone so they didnt know who did it but it only takes one pair of eyes to get away cause you know its funny how russia has instant responses to anything we say or do performing traceable ops could lead to an ops war unseen wars do exist example the 6000 cia/kgb operatives that once resided in berlin... a war of spies ie ops war my grandfather personally trained north koreans and north vietnamese is weapons tactics and interrogation methods as well as ordering the whole sale slaughter of civilians in germany during ww2 and in afghan the real world is more impressive and violent than rainbow six ever was everything that happened in RB6 has happened in real life at some point in time life beats fiction everytime

BUT fuck it anyway no point in arguing over it i mean hell do you really care if he some day ends up throwing in an mp5 in some ammo crate somewhere plus who knows maybe we all can convince these guys to make some proper enemies for these units wink_o.gif btw on that note have you guys given thought about making up some fictional story line about a large war starting or something like that maybe russia tries to take ukraine idk just some kind of back story that a campaign could be built around or even a reason to create good enemies anyone have good ideas for this back story or a large country russia would go to war with and dont say usa cause its already put like that in arma you know maybe we should start a contest for a good back story for your guys mod??

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@Canadian Terror

Real sounds were in Alfa-Antiterror game. All sounds were recorded from actual weapons on polygon.

@manberries

Cool down first, mate - It's really hard to read your text without commas or paragraphs. Second thing - I served in RF Army myself, so no need to say anything about your grandfather to me.

And third - there's no need in your post - I explained everything correctly in mine. ArmA is not about fictious spies or hostage situations - leave it to R6 (arcade now...heh). It's about common warfare with elements of SF operations. Usual "silent" mission in ArmA becomes bloody massacre anyway - thanks to BIS we have almighty (striking with precision and having eyes on their backs) bots. And if I want spy I'll give him US uniform (like US prisoner, which is on OPFOR's side) and 'll give him M16 or Mp5 from stadart "vanilla" ArmA.

This pack is not about "more impressive RL's russian JB's operations" - now it's about basic units and firearms of russian army.

Hope you got this...

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Quote[/b] ]russia tries to take ukraine

Oh, my God...Thanks for another Hollywood-style scenario again. Any evil commies restoring USSR or drunken mad generals like Guba to expect?  rofl.gif

We don't need this. Just ban import of their meat and rise gas prices - and you have what you need. wink_o.gif

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lol very good point and yes i got what u mean. I was just explaning why the russians might use an mp5, and yes it was a horrible example but i came up with it at the spot lol. But, do u think the back story competition is a good idea? as you can tell i probably wont be entering it if it happens. :P. Ok let me revise lets say russia is using those methods that you mentioned to take back its former area, and for one reason or another someone tries to militarily stop them. Even a story to explain their presence on sahrani would be good i think it would just really make this mod a full one. Its an attempt to help us enter the world of arma, instead of just feeling like your playing a game. (i attempted to use more periods and commas, sorry i never thought how hard it must be to read english as a 2nd language without them. Yet, my grammer is bad so forgive me for mistakes on it.)

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The campaign is a good idea, I will suggest it to some mission makers, not exactely that storyline but something they may come up with that is actually nice to play.

Now, please people understand this, this is a game, we use a mouse a pc and a monitor and we play, very similar to toys but more modern (although half of our community is less than 16).

We do not make any sort of political addons, we do this to have fun and to laugh from time to time in MP.

In real life I have 350 workers that need my work to be precise and perfect or else they starve if the company falls. People this is what matters, ARMA is just a game, have fun don't use ARMA to explore your countries problems or whatever goes into your heart, have fun or don't play, why do you guys even loose time wrighting all this bad things in the forum?

It's a waste of time, there are girls out side, pubs, discos, casinos, theater, opera, cinema go have fun instead of fighting, pop up in Lisbon and we'll go together biggrin_o.gif

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Or Germany smile_o.gif

Anyway, well spoken

I think next time this goes overboard i ask Mods to close it till V.2

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The campaign is a good idea, I will suggest it to some mission makers, not exactely that storyline but something they may come up with that is actually nice to play.

Now, please people understand this, this is a game, we use a mouse a pc and a monitor and we play, very similar to toys but more modern (although half of our community is less than 16).

We do not make any sort of political addons, we do this to have fun and to laugh from time to time in MP.

In real life I have 350 workers that need my work to be precise and perfect or else they starve if the company falls. People this is what matters, ARMA is just a game, have fun don't use ARMA to explore your countries problems or whatever goes into your heart, have fun or don't play, why do you guys even loose time wrighting all this bad things in the forum?

It's a waste of time, there are girls out side, pubs, discos, casinos, theater, opera, cinema go have fun instead of fighting, pop up in Lisbon and we'll go together biggrin_o.gif

ya see, like i said my storylines suck lol. But, an explanation of how rf units got on sahrani would be a great addition to the immersiveness of the mod and game, which in this modern world of gaming is quite and important feature and im glad that your on board with the campaign idea would be such a waste of this great mod to not make a campaign plus great mp missions.

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Quote[/b] ]ya see, like i said my storylines suck lol.

No mate it doesn't su**, it's an idea, many ideas are possible, let's see what the mission makers have to say about a campaign, the most important is that they make something nice to play wink_o.gif

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You forgot brothels.(Completely kidding)

Skaven is absolutely right. Well said. I'd like to point this out. Instead of the political/nationalistic bickering regarding a video game, just be thankful there are people out there who are willing to take time out of their personal life to enhance this game. I'd say it's much better to have addons like these, then absolutely nothing. If something is added that may not be 100% "realistic" who gives a shit. Insulting these guys because you deem it not "realistic enough" is absolutely ridiculous. Think about it, as Skaven said this is essentially a toy. No matter how hard one tries ArmA isn't and never will be even remotely close to real. I can tell you from experience, when you're fighting for your life in a sweltering desert and your friends and brothers are getting killed around you, that's "realism". Nothing can ever simulate that. Let's just all be thankful for people like Skaven, Shadow, etc. I know I sure as hell am. Remember.... these guys take time(and a lot of it) from their business/personal lives to do something for us for free.

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HERE HERE i agree. Sooo onto making more suggestions, that already have them thinking of making 1000 things, and wondering how they will have the time, energy, and will.

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btw, are you making that RPG-22 diposable? Is it at all possible to make non-reloadable weapons in Arma? Just don't want another AT-4 joke tounge2.gif

Thanks to BigDawgKS who made us an amazing script, your answer is... YES!

The soldier carrying the RPG22 once firing the weapon will automatically place the RPG on the ground and even if you try to use it again it won't work no more biggrin_o.gif

Great job BigDawgKS thumbs-up.gif

... Now I'm going to try and animate this RPG to make itfold/unfold, lket's see how this works out in the end biggrin_o.gif

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btw, are you making that RPG-22 diposable? Is it at all possible to make non-reloadable weapons in Arma? Just don't want another AT-4 joke tounge2.gif

Thanks to BigDawgKS who made us an amazing script, your answer yes YES!

The soldier carrying the RPG22 once firing the weapon will automatically place the RPG on the ground and even if you try to use it again it won't work no more biggrin_o.gif

Great job BigDawgKS thumbs-up.gif

... Now I'm going to try and animate this RPG to make itfold/unfold, lket's see how this works out in the end biggrin_o.gif

god. It's not long before bis is gonna be asking for your guy's help. great to see yet another park of realism added to arma

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Thats great news! Big thanks to BigDawgKS and good luck with animations xmas_o.gif  You're making people happy, you know? biggrin_o.gif

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3 Amazing screenshots made by NSX featuring our weapons.

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good work. I like the vdv but, idk about you guys but i like the marines better. Always good to switch between the two every now and then to keep things fresh. Nice pics dramatic and all :P ,too bad the bis uaz is ruining it with its uglyness :P.

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btw, are you making that RPG-22 diposable? Is it at all possible to make non-reloadable weapons in Arma? Just don't want another AT-4 joke  tounge2.gif

Thanks to BigDawgKS who made us an amazing script, your answer is... YES!

The soldier carrying the RPG22 once firing the weapon will automatically place the RPG on the ground and even if you try to use it again it won't work no more biggrin_o.gif

Great job BigDawgKS  thumbs-up.gif

... Now I'm going to try and animate this RPG to make itfold/unfold, lket's see how this works out in the end  biggrin_o.gif

Man... I need this script for my upcoming GDCE conversion...been supplying the players squad with 1 shot, but need them to drop the thing if it's gonna look right. plus have to get the enemies to just fire one shot...then maybe vehcles can be something sort of effective again without dropping all the AT troops.

By the way v2 has been my favorite addon so far and it hasn't even been released! keep up the great work!

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this looks very good especially things that go above expecttaions like the RPG script!

Keep this up and BIS will hire you! lol. smile_o.gif

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Wow guys, really great work.

Cant wait for this to see the light of day for all of us.........Keep it up thumbs-up.gif

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I'm back online now, Skaven + Shadow, so the infantry are being worked upon as we speak. biggrin_o.gif

Are the grey files i added useful for some better normals or do i need to change things?

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At me a question. Whether it is possible to create the sniper in a special camouflage overalls?

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I'm back online now, Skaven + Shadow, so the infantry are being worked upon as we speak. biggrin_o.gif

Welcome back Cam biggrin_o.gif

Now enough talking, hurry up I wanna try Shadow NX's master piece biggrin_o.gif

Quote[/b] ]At me a question. Whether it is possible to create the sniper in a special camouflage overalls?

Yes it's planned, don't know if for Vr2 but it's definitely planned to happen smile_o.gif

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Hi Skaven...the units and weapons are amazing! Thanks to all of you. I hope you address your quality work to some blufor weapons.

Only a question: I know it's possible to use them with Chammy's sounds and SixTracers, but I don't know how to do this. May you explain the way to do that? It's only for personal use.

Thanks a lot

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