need info.......

[skinny~killer 0]

hello all,

I'm thinking about geting this game (ArmA) but I need some info on the small parts of the game.

#1 is there a artifical multiplayer (like bf2)

#2 can you control the tank while operating the turret?

#3 is the level editor EZ to use?

I have other qustions but that's all I could think of at the moment. thanks for any info.

[Average Joe 0]

Yes

No

Yes

[NeMeSiS 11]

1. artifical? You can or cannot add AI bots into online missions, really depends on the mission/server. (If that is what you ment)

2. Theoretically yes, but it is not implented in the default game, mods or any addon. (Because you cant do it in real life either so it wouldnt make any sence)

3. EZ? If you mean easy, yeah, doing easy stuff is easy, doing difficult stuff is difficult.

Why dont you try the latest demp first, you cant compare this game to BF2, it too different.

[Noraf 0]

well, on #2, it can be yes, aftherall, if you got an ai driver, you can cammand him to driver were you want, wile still using the main gun as you please

[Chris Death 0]

Quote[/b] ]#2 can you control the tank while operating the turret?

Well, i can't understand why everybody says no.

You can do it like in real life.

All you need is to:

a) change position inside the tank

or

b) have a gunner onboard

Everything else is just not realistic and thus not worth

to be mentioned IMHO.

I can't see explicit being asked for the driver being able

to controll the turret in question #2.

~S~ CD

[Daniel 0]

Quote[/b] ]I can't see explicit being asked for the driver being able

to controll the turret in question #2.

Although I think we can assume that's what he meant.

[skinny~killer 0]

1. artifical? You can or cannot add AI bots into online missions, really depends on the mission/server. (If that is what you ment)

2. Theoretically yes, but it is not implented in the default game, mods or any addon. (Because you cant do it in real life either so it wouldnt make any sence)

3. EZ? If you mean easy, yeah, doing easy stuff is easy, doing difficult stuff is difficult.

Why dont you try the latest demp first, you cant compare this game to BF2, it too different.

I would like to try the demo but I have a slow internet so it would take way to long. and plus it has a limit to the amount of MBs you can download.

thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns like it's pretty good.

[opteryx 1562]

Quote[/b] ]thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns kike it's pretty good.

Maybe you should edit that typo so nobody gets the wrong idea..

[Chris Death 0]

Daniel @ July 15 2007,18:28)]

Quote[/b] ]I can't see explicit being asked for the driver being able

to controll the turret in question #2.

Although I think we can assume that's what he meant.  

Although we shouldn't give disappointing answers upon assumptions.

~S~ CD

[skinny~killer 0]

Quote[/b] ]thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns kike it's pretty good.

Maybe you should edit that typo so nobody gets the wrong idea..

LOL!!

I also thought of some other qustions.

#1how smart are the bots in the artifical multiplayer?

#2are the helo controls the same as BF2?

thanks again.

[NeMeSiS 11]

Quote[/b] ]thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns kike it's pretty good.

Maybe you should edit that typo so nobody gets the wrong idea..

LOL!!

I also thought of some other qustions.

#1how smart are the bots in the artifical multiplayer?

#2are the helo controls the same as BF2?

thanks again.

#1.They range from incredibly smart to incredibly stupid, they have good moments and bad moments but the mission editor needs to know what he is doing with them otherwise they will always look retarded. Generally they are worthy enemies. (And at least they are 10 times better then the 'AI' in BF, cant really call that AI though, as the I would refer to Intelligence and the only thing BF AI does is run to predefined points while shooting at everything that they see, much like zombies, but with guns.)

#2. No, flying a helo is much harder here.

EDIT: But seriously, loving BF2 does not guaranantee that you will like this game, its much more slow paced and ment to be played more tactical. (Most people who liked fast paced CTF in OFP hate ArmA because it would be slower).

ArmA is a semi-realistic combined arms simulator, BF2 is an arcade shooter with vehicles, you cant compare the them.

[4 IN 1 0]

Quote[/b] ]thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns kike it's pretty good.

Maybe you should edit that typo so nobody gets the wrong idea..

LOL!!

I also thought of some other qustions.

#1how smart are the bots in the artifical multiplayer?

#2are the helo controls the same as BF2?

thanks again.

#1.They range from incredibly smart to incredibly stupid, they have good moments and bad moments but the mission editor needs to know what he is doing with them otherwise they will always look retarded. Generally they are worthy enemies. (And at least they are 10 times better then the 'AI' in BF, cant really call that AI though, as the I would refer to Intelligence and the only thing BF AI does is run to predefined points while shooting at everything that they see, much like zombies, but with guns.)

#2. No, flying a helo is much harder here.

EDIT: But seriously, loving BF2 does not guaranantee that you will like this game, its much more slow paced and ment to be played more tactical. (Most people who liked fast paced CTF in OFP hate ArmA because it would be slower).

ArmA is a semi-realistic combined arms simulator, BF2 is an arcade shooter with vehicles, you cant compare the them.

i always think that taking choppers into air going around in ArmA is more easier then in BF2 simply because the control make more sence, while its other things like targeting/ flying in hotzone/ things that more tactical-wise is the hard part

[NeMeSiS 11]

Quote[/b] ]thanks for all of you help guys. I think I will get the game. it souns kike it's pretty good.

Maybe you should edit that typo so nobody gets the wrong idea..

LOL!!

I also thought of some other qustions.

#1how smart are the bots in the artifical multiplayer?

#2are the helo controls the same as BF2?

thanks again.

#1.They range from incredibly smart to incredibly stupid, they have good moments and bad moments but the mission editor needs to know what he is doing with them otherwise they will always look retarded. Generally they are worthy enemies. (And at least they are 10 times better then the 'AI' in BF, cant really call that AI though, as the I would refer to Intelligence and the only thing BF AI does is run to predefined points while shooting at everything that they see, much like zombies, but with guns.)

#2. No, flying a helo is much harder here.

EDIT: But seriously, loving BF2 does not guaranantee that you will like this game, its much more slow paced and ment to be played more tactical. (Most people who liked fast paced CTF in OFP hate ArmA because it would be slower).

ArmA is a semi-realistic combined arms simulator, BF2 is an arcade shooter with vehicles, you cant compare the them.

i always think that taking choppers into air going around in ArmA is more easier then in BF2 simply the control have more sence, while its other things like targeting/ flying in hotzone/ things that more tactical-wise is the hard part

Well ok, i should have said 'keeping a chopper in the air is easier, doing anything usefull with that chopper is harder'.

But now that AI tanks shoot at helo's makes it almost impossible to fly IMO

EDIT: BF choppers were always highly... unstable from what i remember

[skinny~killer 0]

#2. No, flying a helo is much harder here.

good, I just love trying to figure out the controls of the helos. BFs helos was way to EZ, I mastered that like a day after I got the game.

[Col.Flanders 0]

If you're looking for something different and you have patience, then you'll probably enjoy this game.

Judging by your comment on helo controls, it sounds like you do have a little patience.

ArmA helos are way more satisfying to fly than BF ones partly because you're covering miles, not metres at a time. And no *BEEP BEEP BEEP* "you've been locked" BS either.

[skinny~killer 0]

But seriously, loving BF2 does not guaranantee that you will like this game, its much more slow paced and ment to be played more tactical. (Most people who liked fast paced CTF in OFP hate ArmA because it would be slower).

ArmA is a semi-realistic combined arms simulator, BF2 is an arcade shooter with vehicles, you cant compare the them.

actully that's kind of a turn off, I'm all for fast action. never been to big on the slow stuff. not only did BF2 have really fast action but it was funny as hell. I don't know what it is about that game but no mater what you do on it you always find a way to laugh youself to ters.

is the game made for teamplayers? I'm a great teamplayer, I just wish I had a good internet so I could try out my skills on MP, LOL.

[Correction 0]

Yes, it is. It has a built-in squad and command system. As you've already been told like 4 times, this is more of a sim, not an arcade game. I'm not saying that combat in multiplayer often happens like it does in real life (simply because some of the players think they're playing BF2), but it is usually the best tactic.

[max power 21]

ArmA doesn't force you to play as a team so you have to put effort into it. That said, the gunfights in ArmA are so lethal that lonewolfing it really makes for a lot of wasted time- being dead and waiting to respawn and/or spending a siginificant amount of time riding around the island trying to get back to where you were *if* there is respawn at all. That said, you will almost always be with squad mates, either AI controlled or player controlled.

[Correction 0]

Seriously, buddy. This thread has been going on for like 23 hours now. You could probably have downloaded the demo and tried it out for yourself by now.

I would highly recommend this. Personally I usually don't like buying things based on other people's words, anyway (especially from a forum that's obviously biased towards the product), and plus you're asking about a game that's completely different from where you're coming from. You really should probably try to get some hands-on experience, or at least do a little research on your own instead of just asking here. At least run a youtube search for ArmA videos, if nothing else, so you can see the game in action and get an idea of what it's like.

(edit - Ahh, jerryhopper beat me to it as I was editing this post! Take his advice and search for more ArmA videos!)

[jerryhopper 286]

wow you do ask a lot of questions...

maybe 'SEEING' it will tell you more than 1000 words.

A tip: Goto youtube, and search for arma or armedassault

A very good example of teamplay, you will find at the more serious gaming communities.

ShackTactical is such a community, you might wanna check out this video, and get a general thought on how massive this game is with teamplay.

but aside all this i reccommend, upgrade your pc, buy arma - enjoy!

[jakerod 254]

wow you do ask a lot of questions...

maybe 'SEEING' it will tell you more than 1000 words.

A tip: Goto youtube, and search for arma or armedassault

A very good example of teamplay, you will find at the more serious gaming communities.  

ShackTactical is such a community, you might wanna check out this video, and get a general thought on how massive this game is with teamplay.

but aside all this i reccommend,  upgrade your pc, buy arma - enjoy!

That has got to be one of the greatest videos I have ever seen. Mainly just because of the guy or guys that were making the star wars references in the beginning. But there were a few good jokes towards the end too.

ONTOPIC: There is a very powerful mission editor to this game so if you want a fast paced action game you could make one. I have had some moments where it feels like I am playing halo or delta force or something like that. Just learn to use the mission editor correctly and the game can be amazing.

[skinny~killer 0]

Judging by your comment on helo controls, it sounds like you do have a little patience.

actully I don't have much patience. I tried to build a model car once and........well lets just say it went away. I did'nt have anything to do with this this half a$$ed car. it was a bad day so I needed somthing funny so I take it out side, load it down with firecrackers, and blew the hell out of it.LOL.   it was the funnyiest thing I ever saw.  

anyway I just pick up on things really quick.

[skinny~killer 0]

Yes, it is.  It has a built-in squad and command system.  As you've already been told like 4 times, this is more of a sim, not an arcade game.  I'm not saying that combat in multiplayer often happens like it does in real life (simply because some of the players think they're playing BF2), but it is usually the best tactic.

well that's what I want is a sim. I'm just a war junky looking for some action.

[skinny~killer 0]

Seriously, buddy.  This thread has been going on for like 23 hours now.  You could probably have downloaded the demo and tried it out for yourself by now.

I would highly recommend this.  Personally I usually don't like buying things based on other people's words, anyway (especially from a forum that's obviously biased towards the product), and plus you're asking about a game that's completely different from where you're coming from.  You really should probably try to get some hands-on experience, or at least do a little research on your own instead of just asking here.  At least run a youtube search for ArmA videos, if nothing else, so you can see the game in action and get an idea of what it's like.

(edit - Ahh, jerryhopper beat me to it as I was editing this post!  Take his advice and search for more ArmA videos!

FYI:

#1 I told you before, I cant download the demo because of the internet, if I try to download it it will get to 324 MB and stop download and plus it takes my internet away. so then I'm sitting there with only half a demo that does'nt work and no internet for two days.

#2 I've already looked at the vids and got tons of info from the site and I did'nt understand some of the info so I came here to find out about the stuff I did'nt understand.

[Col.Flanders 0]

...take it out side, load it down with firecrackers, and blew the hell out of it.LOL.   it was the funnyiest thing I ever saw.  

Haha! Well, didn't we all do that?

Anyway, that's why we play this game. The little kid in all of us jus' loves to blow sh!t up.

It's a game that'll be around for a long time to come - it's in its infancy and things are just going to get better. Give in. Get the game.