Computer Reboots it self..

[bravo 6 0]

I was playing Evolution Mission and i it was giving me a help of work to repair a little bird chopper crashed in the montains.. took me like 1 hour to repair the bloody thing.

I was not able to pilot it yet, not enough ranks.

After i repaired and refulled that chopper i went for points to fly and bring it back to the base.

I finnaly could pilot, all was running nice. So went for the chopper to return to the base and pick up my lads.

I got in the chopper and after a few minuts near the montains <span style='color:blue'>my computer just rebooted with no apperant reason.</span>

This thing already happened more then twice and its really pissing me off and i would like to know what might be the problem, is it my system or a game problem?

Mys specs are:

* Intel P4 3.0 Ghz

* 1.5G ddr 400 (1x1G + 1x512mb)

* Super-Flower SF-561T2-BK

* MotherBoard Abit AI7

* LCPower Supersilent V2 550w Rohs

* Western Digital Hard Dreive 250gb 16MB Sata II

* Sapphire Radeon X1950Pro 512MB AGP

* Windows XP Pro sp2

(Nothing is Over Clocked)

I have my iname settings at normal and some are selected very low and disabled.

Feedback would be very apreciated. Thanks in advanced.

[walker 0]

Hi bravo 6

My guess would be if the Evolution Mission is the only time you have a crash, then it is most likely the culprit. I know that mission was recently updated because of bugs; maybe one missed the beta test procedures. Complicated large scale missions are more prone to bugs and inherently take longer to debug.

As to hard ware:

You have a Realtek ALC658 on board sound check your mobo drivers are up to date. If you have a separate sound card; is the Realtec turned off and what is your sound card?

Error Report

When windows crashes it often produces a report on the event in, suprisingly enough, the event log. Go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer: look in the Application section to see if there is anything logged for the time of the crash, Check security and System as well just on the off chance.

ArmA also produces an error report; please look in:

C:\Documents and Settings\...Your user Account...\Local Settings\Application Data\ArmA\

Open Your arma.RPT file in notepad and tell us what the bottom entry says. It will begin something like this.

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">=====================================================================

== C:\Program files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA\arma.exe

=====================================================================

Kind Regards walker

[-Puma- 2]

The summer is coming

..if u catch my drift, its hot outside, and many times rebooting is an overheating issue. DL motherboard monitor, and check ur temps. Opening the side panel of ur case, is in order in summer times...

edit: BTW whats that "super-flower" thingy??

[bravo 6 0]

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">=====================================================================

== F:\Program files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA\arma.exe

=====================================================================

Exe version: Sat Mar 03 02:12:11 2007

ErrorMessage: Error compiling vertex shader VSTerrain

=====================================================================

== F:\Program files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA\arma.exe

=====================================================================

Exe version: Sat Mar 03 02:12:11 2007

File fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp, line 2447: '/CfgEnvSounds/Sea.volume': Missing ';' at the end of line

File fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp, line 2454: '/CfgEnvSounds/SeaNight.volume': Missing ';' at the end of line

File fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp, line 2483: '/CfgEnvSounds/Hills.volume': Missing ';' at the end of line

File fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp, line 2489: '/CfgEnvSounds/HillsNight.volume': Missing ';' at the end of line

Updating base class M4AIM->M4A1, by fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp/cfgWeapons/M4A1SD/

Updating base class Single->Mode_SemiAuto, by fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp/cfgWeapons/MP5A5/Single/

Updating base class FullAuto->Mode_FullAuto, by fdf_sounds_c\config.cpp/cfgWeapons/MP5A5/FullAuto/

GetDeviceCaps failed, error 8876086a

ErrorMessage: Display adapter does not support format D24S8 for X8R8G8B8.

also think that it was overheat.. :s

[Bad Pilot 0]

In the past when my PC's rebooted it's been due to one of the following: -

1. Overheating.

2. Lack of power.

3. Starforce copy protection on a racing game.

I'm always having to ramp up the PC cooling and room ventilation in the warmer months in order to prevent the computer overheating.

Your PSU looks fine and should cope with you system OK. One area to think about is the video card: I have an identical Sapphire card and I've been amazed at the amount of discussion on their forums about powering the thing...

Firstly, you have plugged two molex connectors into it haven't you?

Secondly, you're advised to give thought to which molex connectors are used on the video card. It's got two power connectors because it needs loads of juice. It won't get that juice if your primary hard-disc and both video card sockets are fed off the same wire. In my system, two hard-discs are fed from one wire. Another wire goes into my DVD-RW and then into the Radeon (the thinking is that I'm never going to be hammering the DVD whilst hammering the Radeon). A third wire only plugs into the Radeon.

F

[keefehb 0]

It sounds crazy but my pc started doing this awhile ago because the PSU was full of dust :s

I'd check that too, they can be hard to clean though

[walker 0]

Hi bravo 6

The FDF mod bugs are there so better send in a bug report to FDF mod guys to let them know. It is possible they caused the crash but your description of it also makes me think overheating.

Take the FDF sound mod out of your shortcut as a test, since it should be in a mod folder, it should not be hard.

Kind Regards walker

[bravo 6 0]

In the past when my PC's rebooted it's been due to one of the following: -

1. Overheating.

2. Lack of power.

3. Starforce copy protection on a racing game.

I'm always having to ramp up the PC cooling and room ventilation in the warmer months in order to prevent the computer overheating.

Your PSU looks fine and should cope with you system OK. One area to think about is the video card: I have an identical Sapphire card and I've been amazed at the amount of discussion on their forums about powering the thing...

Firstly, you have plugged two molex connectors into it haven't you?

Secondly, you're advised to give thought to which molex connectors are used on the video card. It's got two power connectors because it needs loads of juice. It won't get that juice if your primary hard-disc and both video card sockets are fed off the same wire. In my system, two hard-discs are fed from one wire. Another wire goes into my DVD-RW and then into the Radeon (the thinking is that I'm never going to be hammering the DVD whilst hammering the Radeon). A third wire only plugs into the Radeon.

F

yup, i have both cables connected. otherwise arma wouldnt run (i tested already)

and the order of the cables are well connected.

I believe it might me an overheat or maybe the drivers need an good update for ARMA! (still waiting though for them)

[-Puma- 2]

download motherboard monitor: http://www.softpedia.com/get....r.shtml

and check the temps, while gaming.

I believe anything over 55C is considered overheat.

allso disable "restart automaticly" in control panel-system-advanced-startup and recovery

(sorry if its not correct, but u'll find it in system panel: im using finnish windows )

allso try searching thru ur log files to see what errors.

[bravo 6 0]

ok thanks.. ill have a look on this.

Im trying prime95 atm..

[bravo 6 0]

it happened tonight again.. was playing coop Evolution for about 1 hour or so, and pc just shut down.

I know its has nothing to do with the mission.. i believe it was overheat as mentioned before.

I have my cpu with no OC. Its on 3.0Ghz

My CPU temp while in desk top is 40 and case is 30.

While im playing the CPU goes to 60 or so.. ( thats why pc shutdown it self ) i also removed the option to shutdown pc. Does nothing.. keep shuting down.

Why my CPU overheat or change temp to so high?

How can i fight this anoying thing?

[1212PDMCDMPPM 200]

bravo 6, what was the result of prime95 ?

I ran it with speedfan running to check the different temperatures.

I had the unpleasant surprise to realize that my cpu is overheating. prime95 stop with an error when the cpu reach 80° (my athlon fx 53 is supposed to run with a max temp of 70°C). ArmA is crashing when the cpu is at 85°C !

The different way to lower the temperature are:

- clean the dust on the fans and heatsinks

- make sure the air flow is not blocked in your case

- buy a proper case with multiple fans if you don't have one already

- replace the thermic stuff between the cpu and the heatsink with a top quality one

you can also try watercooling (personnaly I'm not a fan of this technology) or open you case and put air conditionning in front of it (not really a good solution but can be used to test how your PC is running at a lower temp).

1, going to do my housework in the PC...

[Kode 0]

Does the PC reboot, and do you get a blue screen? or is it just shutting down.

If it just shutdowns because the CPU is too hot, you normally can change the value of the temperature to shut down in the BIOS(normally it's 65°C or something, but it's better if your CPU doesn't reach higher then 70°C)

If he just reboots(and you may or may need see a blue screen), perhaps you can try to disable the reboot automatically. Normally you can do that by doing:

right click on my computer ==> properties

then to "advanced" and then "startup and recovery"

there should be automatically restart checked. Uncheck it and it won't automatically reboot anymore .

If you get a blue screen then, it should stay on the screen untill you manually reboot. Normally you can then see more information concerning the crash.

[bravo 6 0]

no blue screen. simply shutdown in the middle of the game.

I think its beacuse of my shitty intel P4 3.0GHhz! I hate it already..

these kinda Intel P4 are shit for ARMA.

All fans are cleaned, no dust. and in bios i removed the option to auto shutdown.

[bob1787 0]

imo when a PC shuts down mid game its because of a power supply problem, normally if its a proper hardware problem you'll get a bluescreen won't you? anyway that was the problem i was having when running graphics cards in SLI on my old PC

[Dwarden 1125]

if Your PC reboot all of sudden then please check for OS minidumps ...

C:\Windows\Minidump\*.dmp

and check if there is one from date/time equal the crash

if yes then it's possible to use it to find out what was cause (e.g. some driver)

[-Puma- 2]

BOB nice system u got there, care to donate it to me

[sirex 0]

dont underestimate the starforce thing, i bought almost an entire new pc trying to fix that s***. PC was working fine for about 4 months after i installed the game that turned out to be the problem, then just went insane. Took weeks to find out what was wrong... and sadly it was after i'd tryed a new PSU, motherboard (and cpu to fit), harddrive, h/d cable and RAM.  

this is why i was banging on hoping they wouldnt use starforce before arma came out. :-)

[-Puma- 2]

dont underestimate the starforce thing, i bought almost an entire new pc trying to fix that s***. PC was working fine for about 4 months after i installed the game that turned out to be the problem, then just went insane. Took weeks to find out what was wrong... and sadly it was after i'd tryed a new PSU, motherboard (and cpu to fit), harddrive, h/d cable and RAM.

this is why i was banging on hoping they wouldnt use starforce before arma came out. :-)

sirex how did u fix the problem???

ouch 60C is way too high. Have u opened the side door of ur case??? MAybe downclock a bit, or change voltage to lower levels, but that kinda questionable suggestion, if u dont know nothing about OC'INg..

what kinda cooling u have ??

enable cpu stepping or whatever it's called in BIOS, if its not allready enabled.

Put in some extra fans, or even a standard desk fan blowing straight into the case....

maybe best solution would be underclock a bit. Make the clock frequency 200mhz lower and lower ur CPU voltage by .200 V

some1 else, with a better knowledge of intels might give u more accurate explanation.

but with these thing u can atleast do something with the OVERHEAT, wich seems to be ur problem.

[Maddmatt 1]

If you have another graphics card around, it might be a good idea to try it.

I had the same problem with a Geforce 7800GT. It was some XFX limited edition with lights and crap. I found that if I underclocked it, then the problem went away. I exchanged it for the normal edition 7800GT and now I can even overclock it without problems. Had this card for over a year overclocked and it still runs fine.

If you don't have another card to test, try underclocking your current one a bit.

[-Puma- 2]

Good idea, Now i remeber i got some problems with my 6600gt.

It was overheating like hell, and all the games ended in lockdown.

The problem was that I had a sound card directly on the slot below

the GFX and the temps we're ridicuolus

after I installed the soundcard to the slot futhest away from the GFX card, all was well, alltough the bearings on the GFX fan we're broken so I had to RAM it.

[bravo 6 0]

but for me the problem is the CPU temp.

I believe that problem is the cpu and not the Video card..

[-Puma- 2]

for now open the side panel, and add more casefans

or even put a normal fan blowing directly to the opened side of the case

[bravo 6 0]

for now open the side panel, and add more casefans

or even put a normal fan blowing directly to the opened side of the case

yup, i just do that now..

But it shouldn't be the solution.

if Your PC reboot all of sudden then please check for OS minidumps ...

C:\Windows\Minidump\*.dmp

and check if there is one from date/time equal the crash

if yes then it's possible to use it to find out what was cause (e.g. some driver)

to answer your question, i looked for that folder and i don't have it even with no hidden folders. Pc haven't shutdown now, because i have the case open with normal fan blowing inside.. (back to old procedure)

if pc shutsdown again.. i will look for that folder.. Maybe its a temporary folder..

[Stugwi 0]

I would remove ur cpu and re-fit it.

Remove any old thermal paste.

Make sure u apply i thin smear of quality thermal paste.

Makesure the heatsink fan is snuggly fitted.

This worked for me when experiances sudden cpu overheating.