inferno7312 0 Posted April 3, 2007 calm down vilas, It take almost 5 years to make the OFP likes now.  Arma will  be better then OFP after 5 years. Hope the developer can see these post and fix the issue. They can do it in OFP, i think they also can do it in Arma I agree with Matt Rochelle, if BIS donot improve everything ASAP, it will lose customers. no, not will , is losing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OFPDude 0 Posted April 3, 2007 OFP has it's place in history now, thats all I can say......they never did fix the demolished building bug which left you struggling for hours pinned to the side of a wall. I do still go back to OFP to see the differences and you are right, that OFP does still have the touch of realism but not so much as ArmA's 3d complexity, terrain, weather system, insects....etc....you can't ignore all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted April 3, 2007 maybe i am too old but for me super graphic is less atractive than fabule, atmosphere, or action belive me or not, i still play RTCW, MOHAA, SOF2 and i enjoy it more in ARMA community i am, because it is only game that can be so editable by the user if i couldn't do my weapons, my units, my vehicles, my missions i wouln't buy ARMA and PC for it i am making addons because i want turn ARMA into 1985 again, but i suffer from lack of camera effects in trigers , lack of animations (soldiers) and annoying HDR and cheap performance and no jump in Poland one company made super advanced graphically game few years ago "chrome", it was very very advanced but it so boring, that i even finished it as well as many other people today they even don't remeber this title OFP i will remember even if i will have grandsons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karantan 0 Posted April 3, 2007 @Chris Death (and the others) You're (all) forgetting one, but the main thing; the people which buyed ArmA, they've probably payed for (and they're expecting) the quality product, which will entertain them (with the campaign, with the missions ...), they've not payed for some (bugged) skeleton, which awaits to be dressed up by the community, they've not (primarily) payed for some 'tool' (editor); they've buyed a GAME, which must/should work adequately from the first second. And to entertain if possible. Now, if that game is for some (understandably? ) boring,,,OFP was never boring. Remember, BIS with OFP (and later the community) set these standards we're used to (and in co-relation with this the expectations). Arma unlike any other game, has a mature community ... This is (for now) more regarding OFP than ArmA. Despite that the core of the community is the same,,,there're (still) some fanboys (and fangirls), which do acting/posting like such; which are 'blindly' and single mindendly defending the beloved company and its product ... ...not so much as ArmA's 3d complexity, terrain, weather system, insects....etc....you can't ignore all that. This are just an eye candies dude ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guerilla -MCY- 0 Posted April 3, 2007 ofp 1.96 was good enought without any mod's and the community isn't the same, well at least not the ctf part, they're mostly gone due issues with anim's behaviour, the white ACU, weapon ballistic 'n handling, sound bugs and the heavy gfx consuming engine. i allwys thought the community is for gameplay instead of grafics but it seems i got it all wrong in the last 5 years... well i let Vilas speak for me as i share his opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted April 3, 2007 Hi, i had ofp:e, and the pc version for quite some time, and i loved the gameplay and campaign but i got Arma today and i couldnt wait to install it, when it was done i played a little campaign, boring, Mission editor, boring, and single missions, boring. The only thing i like is the swimming part. I havent tried MP yet so, im kinda worried about that, anyways you can disagree with me or whatever but its just BORING~!!~!~!!! Dear sweet bleeding Jesus on the cross. The game is boring, but the swimming is OK. I think, ladies & gentlemen, that we have all the salient facts right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny vet boy b 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Just go to the User Missions section and check out the 5 Minute Mission Maker, it's virtually all I use to set up big randomising patrols and skirmishes in the relatively lag free southern island parts and towns etc. It is a truely fabulous and thrilling experience and NEVER plays the same twice. The AI seem smarter too, they really attempt to flank and box you in, you should check it out because, I agreed with the topic starter that "out of the box" ArmA is a very pretty but empty sandbox. 5 Minute Mission Maker...check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted April 3, 2007 guerilla @ April 03 2007,14:21)]ofp 1.96 was good enought without any mod's and the community isn't the same, well at least not the ctf part, they're mostly gone due issues with anim's behaviour, the white ACU, weapon ballistic 'n handling, sound bugs and the heavy gfx consuming engine. i allwys thought the community is for gameplay instead of grafics but it seems i got it all wrong in the last 5 years...well i let Vilas speak for me as i share his opinion I can't believe the shit people say about CTF being ruined. The game has been made more realistic overall, and the anims don't have any major issues. You need to use tactics, not run around CS style. The ACU isn't a problem if you know how to conceal yourself properly, and I haven't found it harder to spot the SLA guys. No matter which side you are on, if you don't conceal yourself properly then people can see you. I have played CTF, including clan matches, so I have enough experience in the CTF mode to know what I'm talking about. If you find the CTF too hard or realistic, play another game or learn to play properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OFPDude 0 Posted April 3, 2007 Quote[/b] ]This are just an eye candies dude ... ...and OFP in 16 colors ega resolution would still be great to play The OFP CTF clans are all using wire-frame hacks anyway, so I guess the above holds true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karantan 0 Posted April 3, 2007 ...and OFP in 16 colors ega resolution would still be great to play  The OFP CTF clans are all using wire-frame hacks anyway, so I guess the above holds true  Get your point,,,but alas you're missing the point, OFP(or ArmA)Dude.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_vityaz 0 Posted April 3, 2007 It was written right in one game magazine: in Resistance we had a feeling of big war between East and West.But it's not interesting to play in war between banana countries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guerilla -MCY- 0 Posted April 3, 2007 I can't believe the shit people say about CTF being ruined. The game has been made more realistic overall, and the anims don't have any major issues. You need to use tactics, not run around CS style. The ACU isn't a problem if you know how to conceal yourself properly, and I haven't found it harder to spot the SLA guys. No matter which side you are on, if you don't conceal yourself properly then people can see you.I have played CTF, including clan matches, so I have enough experience in the CTF mode to know what I'm talking about. If you find the CTF too hard or realistic, play another game or learn to play properly. you have obviously no clue about ctf or can you explain where are all those ctf servers gone, prolly with a less unprofessional style of responding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted April 3, 2007 guerilla @ April 03 2007,15:03)]you have obviously no clue about ctf you have obviously no about what BI wanted this game to be, if you dont like this game then you should just play another game. Its not like OFP/ArmA fans are whining in BF2 forums that we want EA to make the game more realistic... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted April 3, 2007 guerilla @ April 03 2007,15:03)]you have obviously no clue about ctf you have obviously no about what BI wanted this game to be, if you dont like this game then you should just play another game. Its not like OFP/ArmA fans are whining in BF2 forums that we want EA to make the game more realistic... [CAVE]guerilla: YOU are the one who has no clue about ArmA CTF if you can't handle it. If you can't handle the added realism in ArmA, there are other games for you. I don't play on public servers much, I prefer to play with my clan since it seems impossible to have a proper game on a public server. We have played CTF matches and had great fun with it. To win you need to work as a team and plan. So does the fact that I enjoy it mean that I have no clue about it? Where is the logic in that? ofpforum: You make a good point too . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted April 3, 2007 It was written right in one game magazine: in Resistance we had a feeling of big war between East and West.But it's not interesting to play in war between banana countries. different games telling different storys set in different time, only the message want to bring is the same: war sucks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guerilla -MCY- 0 Posted April 3, 2007 lol someone gets really angry here, if you start saying im a shittalker, don't except any love, if you don't agree with other opinions, its ok but telling me what to think is allmost .... Lets see who has a clue and arrange a Friendly Clan War (7pl +/-) on some CTF maps... PM me if yer got balls behind your words 8p greetings www.mcys.de Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted April 3, 2007 guerilla @ April 03 2007,17:54)]lol someone gets really angry here, if you start saying im a shittalker, don't except any love, if you don't agree with other opinions, its ok but telling me what to think is allmost ....Lets see who has a clue and arrange a Friendly Clan War (7pl +/-) on some CTF maps... PM me if yer got balls behind your words 8p greetings www.mcys.de I'm not angy, just saying what's on my mind. I thought you didn't like CTF . Clan match would be cool, but it's a South African clan so one of our clans is gonna have to put up with a high ping. I'll talk with the clan and take it to PM if they like the idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted April 3, 2007 you have obviously no about what BI wanted this game to be, if you dont like this game then you should just play another game. Its not like OFP/ArmA fans are whining in BF2 forums that we want EA to make the game more realistic... Another one of those "this is how this game is meant to be played" guys? Gimme a break. guerilla @ April 03 2007,15:03)]you have obviously no clue about ctf you have obviously no about what BI wanted this game to be, if you dont like this game then you should just play another game. Its not like OFP/ArmA fans are whining in BF2 forums that we want EA to make the game more realistic... [CAVE]guerilla: YOU are the one who has no clue about ArmA CTF if you can't handle it. If you can't handle the added realism in ArmA, there are other games for you. I don't play on public servers much, I prefer to play with my clan since it seems impossible to have a proper game on a public server. We have played CTF matches and had great fun with it. To win you need to work as a team and plan. So does the fact that I enjoy it mean that I have no clue about it? Where is the logic in that? ofpforum: You make a good point too . Just out of sick curiosity, in which clan do you play CTF? You're telling us that stone stiff animation transitions and the superduper hi-tech ACU camo that is like a neon sign in ArmA are realistic? No offense but if you don't see any difference between the camo levels of west and east troops, you're color blind or are playing some other game. Teaching guerilla about CTF or teamwork being key to victory is like telling a formula driver how to start his car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted April 3, 2007 ... My clan? The CAV. It's not a big clan, still new. What does it matter anyway? "Stone stiff animations" my ass. "No offense but if you don't see any difference between the camo levels of west and east troops, you're color blind or are playing some other game. " Oh yea I must be playing some other game Of course I can see the difference FFS! Are you saying that the green SLA units are invisible or something? I can see them just fine. "Teaching guerilla about CTF or teamwork being key to victory is like telling a formula driver how to start his car." I was just stating what is important in ArmA. How am I suppose to know how he plays ArmA? It's just that you guys seem to hate the way the game is played. I enjoy the game, you don't. Forget the clan match, you don't even have manners. You guys don't seem to like ArmA CTF anyway. If you don't enjoy it, then what's the point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whisper 0 Posted April 3, 2007 You're telling us that stone stiff animation transitions and the superduper hi-tech ACU camo that is like a neon sign in ArmA are realistic? As far as I've understood from comments in Frantic's post about camos, yes, current US Army ACU is more or less like in game, thus is rather realistic, for a US Army unit. Not a good camo, but it's like that IRL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted April 3, 2007 ... My clan? The CAV. It's not a big clan, still new. What does it matter anyway? "Stone stiff animations" my ass. "No offense but if you don't see any difference between the camo levels of west and east troops, you're color blind or are playing some other game. " Oh yea I must be playing some other game Of course I can see the difference FFS! Are you saying that the green SLA units are invisible or something? I can see them just fine. "Teaching guerilla about CTF or teamwork being key to victory is like telling a formula driver how to start his car." I was just stating what is important in ArmA. How am I suppose to know how he plays ArmA? It's just that you guys seem to hate the way the game is played. I enjoy the game, you don't. Forget the clan match, you don't even have manners. You guys don't seem to like ArmA CTF anyway. If you don't enjoy it, then what's the point? You have weird presumptions. We play it because we like it but it could be a lot better. In some forest maps east is totally superior because they can see their enemy many seconds and meters before the other one does. Should we shut up about everything that could be better? You lacked manners by starting an argument telling guerilla is talking shit and presuming he is an arcade noob because he doesn't swallow everything he encounters. You're telling us that stone stiff animation transitions and the superduper hi-tech ACU camo that is like a neon sign in ArmA are realistic? As far as I've understood from comments in Frantic's post about camos, yes, current US Army ACU is more or less like in game, thus is rather realistic, for a US Army unit. Not a good camo, but it's like that IRL I've seen comparison pics of real BDU and ACU camo and they both blend in well with terrain, the ACU in ArmA is too bright and yellow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted April 3, 2007 ... This argument has gone nowhere. It's just strange when people act like they don't like the game and demand for it to be changed - yet still play it. Personally I have had fun with CTF and I like it. I'm just going to leave it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d3dsh33p 0 Posted April 3, 2007 I think it's only boring when your imagination is running dry... on a side note, alltho this thread went way off topic, once you get past the bugs, its nice to have a nice jip for multiplayer, and the multiplayer missions themselves are getting better and better. ofp really pissed me off without the jip and having to search with the all-seeing-eye (at least thats what i used in the beginnning) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baff1 0 Posted April 3, 2007 It was written right in one game magazine: in Resistance we had a feeling of big war between East and West. But it's not interesting to play in war between banana countries. It would be if we had been cast as a mercenary unit. CPS missions, reconstruction security. Maybe even a little coup? UG. News reporter cutscenes. How tragically uninspired was that? Perhaps if I had been playing the Personal Space Advisor for the camera crew.... I'm currently playing OPF, I'll return to Armed Assault when some more addons appear that inspire me to write a couple of missions of my own. Meantime my pallet has just vastly expanded with the Falklands mod for Flashpoint. I would have liked for Armed Assault to include those really useful features like the on the fly mission editing available in VBS, that would have given the game a roleplay angle that would have progressed it very far in my mind. Live action Co-op with a Dungeon Master tailoring the events as they develop, or the ability to rewind and redo elements of each scenario until the tactics are understood. There are however quite a few mechanical improvements in Armed Assault, it is by no means total duffer. The canvas so to speak is a nice one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites