Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 11, 2008 I'm thinking about upgrading my graphics card.. How would a INNO3D Nvidia 8600GT 512MB fare? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted January 11, 2008 I have an 7600GS with 512MB (AGP Card), and since i use patch 1.09 ArmA runs very fluid on high settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Snafu- 78 Posted January 11, 2008 I have an 7600GS with 512MB (AGP Card), and since i use patch 1.09 ArmA runs very fluid on high settings. May I ask what the rest of your system specs. are? As I have the same graphics card but have most settings on low and very low with 1200m VD; shadows disabled and 1024x768x32 resolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted January 11, 2008 May I ask what the rest of your system specs. are? As I have the same graphics card but have most settings on low and very low with 1200m VD; shadows disabled and 1024x768x32 resolution. Sure, no problem. AMD AthlonXP 3200+ (Barton) 2GB DDR RAM (PC3200) in dual-channel mode MSI GeForce 7600GS 512MB (AGP) Aperture size set to 512MB Ceative Audigy 2 Win2K Prof. SP4 Resolution: 1360x768 (16:9)-wide Viewdistance ~2000 meters Terrain detail: Normal Objects detail: High Texture detail: High Shading detail: Very high Postprocess effects: Low Anisotropic filtering: High Shadow detail. High Antialiasing: Very high Blood: High Edit: I still use the 94.24 Forceware drivers, as the never ones requires WinXP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Anybody tried the ATI Radeon HD 3870, very good performance (reatively close to that of the 8800gt). What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Snafu- 78 Posted January 11, 2008 May I ask what the rest of your system specs. are? As I have the same graphics card but have most settings on low and very low with 1200m VD; shadows disabled and 1024x768x32 resolution. Sure, no problem. AMD AthlonXP 3200+ (Barton) 2GB DDR RAM (PC3200) in dual-channel mode MSI GeForce 7600GS 512MB (AGP) Aperture size set to 512MB Ceative Audigy 2 Win2K Prof. SP4 Resolution: 1360x768 (16:9)-wide Viewdistance ~2000 meters Terrain detail: Normal Objects detail: High Texture detail: High Shading detail: Very high Postprocess effects: Low Anisotropic filtering: High Shadow detail. High Antialiasing: Very high Blood: High Edit: I still use the 94.24 Forceware drivers, as the never ones requires WinXP. Woah! That's impressive running ArmA on that detail with an AGP machine. The major differences seem to be that I have: 1GB RAM Intel. Pentium 4 2.66GHz Windows XP At first I thought it was because of the Athlon but that seems to have a speed of 2.2Ghz compared to my 2.66GHz. It can't just be the RAM though? Unless it's the Win2K that makes the difference? What is aperture size? Now I'm actually tempted to try and update my old computer if your getting results like those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted January 11, 2008 I have almost same machine too PIV 3.0G prescott socket 478 1 Gig DDR400 7600 GS 512m (agp aperature set at 256m) WinXP Home Must be his Win2k allowing the high settings and his soundcard Audigy must take more load off cpu I play with: Resolution: 1024x768 Viewdistance ~2000 meters Terrain detail: Normal Objects detail: Normal Texture detail: Normal Shading detail: Low Postprocess effects: Low Anisotropic filtering: Low Shadow detail. disabled Antialiasing: disabled Blood: High If I turn on shadow detail, or increase shading detail I notice a substantial performance drop, most other settings I can change to whatever I want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabbity 0 Posted January 12, 2008 can anyone help me figure this out then? these are my settings but for some jacked up reason i get HORRIBLE FPS even though by sysreq standards and game standards i should be destroying the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted January 12, 2008 to BraTTy: Try to increase your resolution. I know it sounds absurd, but I actually got better performance when I increased it. Also setting texture detail to high gives me better performance than low or normal settings. Shading details are at high aswell here. Antialiasing is set to normal here. Also gave me better performance than using low. I know it sounds absurd to increase the values to get it running better, but it did work with my machine: - Athlon XP 3000+ @~2500 Mhz - Leadtek A7600 GT AGP oc - 2 Gig GEIL DDR 400 PC 3200 RAM I have pagefile completely disabled on my comp because the RAM is really sufficient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted January 12, 2008 can anyone help me figure this out then?these are my settings ... but for some jacked up reason i get HORRIBLE FPS even though by sysreq standards and game standards i should be destroying the game You are using Patch 1.09 Beta i assume? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rabbity 0 Posted January 12, 2008 i've used 1.08 and 1.09 it doesn't make a difference for me really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted January 13, 2008 Anybody tried the ATI Radeon HD 3870, very good performance (reatively close to that of the 8800gt). What do you think? The HD3750 beats every single 8600 and the performance of the HD3870 is better but not by that much, so yes, I'd definitely recommend either of the two HD3**0s. The only bad point I've read about, is that they (like most ATi cards) don't handle AA too well. If you're not that fussy about AA then these two cards are definitely better value for money than any of the 8600 or 8800 series of nVidia cards. Over the past few days I've been doing loads of research on the current gfx card situation, as I'm in the process of upgrading my system, and had I not found a good deal on eBay for an 8800GTS 320 (112GBP), I would've gone for the 3870 for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 13, 2008 Anybody tried the ATI Radeon HD 3870, very good performance (reatively close to that of the 8800gt). What do you think? The HD3750 beats every single 8600 and the performance of the HD3870 is better but not by that much, so yes, I'd definitely recommend either of the two HD3**0s. The only bad point I've read about, is that they (like most ATi cards) don't handle AA too well. If you're not that fussy about AA then these two cards are definitely better value for money than any of the 8600 or 8800 series of nVidia cards. Over the past few days I've been doing loads of research on the current gfx card situation, as I'm in the process of upgrading my system, and had I not found a good deal on eBay for an 8800GTS 320 (112GBP), I would've gone for the 3870 for sure. Thanks. Thats just about the same conclusion I've come to. AA is no biggy for me so I think I'll take the plunge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charliereddog 9 Posted January 13, 2008 I decided to go the other way. Can't tell you what my 8800GT is like as it's not here yet, but every test I saw and review I read rated the Nvidia higher than the ATI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted January 13, 2008 actually i'm going to concur on the AA issue ... that was problem with HD2xxx serie HD38xx series seems to handle AA way better than even HD2900XT plus HD38xx introduced new AntiAliasing modes (now there is so many i'm slowly getting lost) on contrary NVIDIA 8800 serie (not sure about 8600) got ideal AnisoTropic filtering quality while HD38xx seems to include same or very similar (maybe bit faster) AF solution like HD2xxx serie ... AA = AMD.ATI wins power usage = AMD.ATI wins heat = AMD.ATI wins AF = NVIDIA wins pure performance = NVIDIA wins by brute force OC performance = some AMD.ATI cards shows fantastic OC range (beyond 1GHz core and beyond 1300*(2600)MHz GDDR4) price and availability = tie drivers = tie (both companies got own fuckups) games supports = now this is catch NVIDIA wins there which to suggest ... that's headache i know problems with both ideal system should contain 8800GT and HD3870 lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charliereddog 9 Posted January 14, 2008 How about a cross-SLI system? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinCrank 0 Posted January 14, 2008 I curently use 8600GT and have to have everything on low except textures on normal for game have playable FPS in builded areas, though i were thinking it could be my CPU fault because i use AMD Sempron 3400+. What CPU is "recommeneded " for ARMA (by recommended i mean not one readme suggest but from real gamers experience)? Will upgrading to Athlong 64 X2 5200+, L2 Cache 2024 Cache give me more FPS? I decided to start new thread, please answer there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted January 14, 2008 actually i'm going to concur on the AA issue ... that was problem with HD2xxx serie HD38xx series seems to handle AA way better than even HD2900XT plus HD38xx introduced new AntiAliasing modes (now there is so many i'm slowly getting lost) on contrary NVIDIA 8800 serie (not sure about 8600) got ideal AnisoTropic filtering quality while HD38xx seems to include same or very similar (maybe bit faster) AF solution like HD2xxx serie ... AA = AMD.ATI wins power usage = AMD.ATI wins heat = AMD.ATI wins AF = NVIDIA wins pure performance = NVIDIA wins by brute force OC performance = some AMD.ATI cards shows fantastic OC range (beyond 1GHz core and beyond 1300*(2600)MHz GDDR4) price and availability = tie drivers = tie (both companies got own fuckups) games supports = now this is catch NVIDIA wins there which to suggest ... that's headache i know problems with both ideal system should contain 8800GT and HD3870 lol Well, it all depends on your budget really. If you're looking to get a good value for money card, but can't afford any of the better 8800 series, then I'd go for the ATi 3870. If you're on a low budget, definitely go for the 3850. It beats all of the equivalent nVidias (except when it comes to AA performance) and costs much less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 14, 2008 I'm definetley on a budget! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Well what's your gfx card budget? 90-100GBP you can get an HD3850 120-140 HD3870 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 14, 2008 90-100GBP, I think the 3050 512 looks damn resonable at its price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted January 15, 2008 Hi all With regard to the best processors for running ArmA Fast processor is most of what it is about, multi core means some other processes like say windows OS can be shunted to the other cores and can improve things; however... You can improve realy big SP missions on multi core by running them as MP on Dual processors. You start by making an MP version of your SP mission; then running the windows MP server of ArmA on one processor and then logging on to it with your ArmA client as the only player, running on the other processor and loading up the MP version of the mission. Gives about a 20% to 25% performance boost. You loose the ability to save game though. Kind Regards walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
charliereddog 9 Posted January 15, 2008 That's a really interesting tip Walker. I hadn't seen that before and with a Quadcore on the way to me as I type it's going to definitely see some use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Cobalt 1 Posted January 15, 2008 Hi, you might want to consider the Powercolor HD 3850 Xtreme (512mb). Costs about 189 EUR where i live - guess atm it's the best bang for the buck. Basically all ArmA settings are cranked to high or very high, except AA, using 1280x1024x32. Crysis also delivers acceptable FPS on my system, same resolution, settings medium-high. GA-P35-DS3 E6750 2x1GB DDR2-800 X-FI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Sarkey 0 Posted January 15, 2008 Hi,you might want to consider the Powercolor HD 3850 Xtreme (512mb). Costs about 189 EUR where i live - guess atm it's the best bang for the buck. Basically all ArmA settings are cranked to high or very high, except AA, using 1280x1024x32. Crysis also delivers acceptable FPS on my system, same resolution, settings medium-high. GA-P35-DS3 E6750 2x1GB DDR2-800 X-FI Thats exactly the card I'm looking at for about 110GBP. Sounds promising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites