Tracer bullets but they are ofted forgot

[Kirq 0]

I've searched the forum and found several post in few topics concerning tracers in AA, but i didnt found answers to questions that are bugging me so i decided to create this topic.

To me personaly tracers are very immesive aspect of every tactical shoters but i did find them only in very few tac shoters and they are mostly very poor represented. Only game that have tracers very nicely represented is Red Orchestra, propably because of that my fav class in RO i Machine Gunner

According to Vikipedia, tracers are loaded every 3-4 rounds in mag in rifles used by regular infantry, sometimes they are loaded as a few last rounds in magazine to alert shooter that he is going dry shortly. In automatic rifles and MGs tracers are loaded even more frequently ( one regular bullet, one tracer, one regular etc).

I was wondering how good tracers are covered in AA ? Honestly i cant remember them in any AA vid ( maybe i missed them somehow ?) . I've watched night fight vid ( like 20 times ) and i begining to think that "tracers" in this vid acctulay are just unguided rockets fired from chopers and APC's, i might be wrong but i think that every "tracer" in this vid has a smoke trail.

Does anyone have any confirmed info about tracers in AA ? Are they covered ? If so doest regular rifles ( m4, m16 ) has them ? or maybe only SAW and Mounted MG's have them ? Can we see them ricocheting ?

I would be very grateful for any info according tracers in AA.

And here are few links showing how beauty tracers are

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3JSL18v3PfE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N-ScwWNn66c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FhGMWh7cDjY

EDIT

I messed up Topic name , it should be just Tracer bullets , can any mod/admin fix that ?

[Goeth 0]

I was wondering how good tracers are covered in AA ? Honestly i cant remember them in any AA vid ( maybe i missed them  somehow ?) . I've watched night fight vid ( like 20 times   ) and i begining to think that "tracers" in this vid acctulay are just unguided rockets fired from chopers and APC's, i might be wrong but i think that every "tracer" in this vid has a smoke trail.

Yes those tracers that you see in night fight video are from rockets, cannons and missiles. No rifle bullets are fired in that video, let´s wait and see if some nice person uploads night fight video of infantry battle.

[Sniperwolf572 758]

In GC Press kit Gaming Area got, tracers were something like OFP, every round was a tracer. But since I wasn't a happy camper just playing it, I had to look trough the config and the .pbo files when I had time, and noticed a config variable tracersEvery = #, that is currently set at 1 for all weapons, which leads me to belive that tracers were WIP at the time of GC Build. There were some other things in the config about tracers, but something should be left as a surprise, no?

Only god and BIS crew know what the tracers do look like in the current build / will be like in the final build.

[bn880 5]

Looks like my plan to sell ArmA tracers at 1c per round is go. (j/k OBVIOUSLY, I'd charge more...)

Ahh, I have some Bill Gates moments at times don't I?

[coderdfox 0]

I think we need to realize that BI will make a great basic game, and by basic I dont mean crappy. Mods are by far the greatest solution that will make the game great.

[Goeth 0]

Looks like my plan to sell ArmA tracers at 1c per round is go.    (j/k OBVIOUSLY, I'd charge more...)

Ahh, I have some Bill Gates moments at times don't I?  

That´s a deal, i pre order 10000 rounds

[Zander 0]

I think we need to realize that BI will make a great basic game, and by basic I dont mean crappy. Mods are by far the greatest solution that will make the game great.

i waited 5 years to see nice and realistic tracers in ofp but nothing.

[bn880 5]

Eh? Tried my tracers? Or wolfbane's. Sure there were some major major engine limitations for realistic ones, but it's pretty close.

[Kirq 0]

Eh? Tried my tracers? Or wolfbane's. Sure there were some major major engine limitations for realistic ones, but it's pretty close.

Do you have any vid showing them ?

[bn880 5]

No.

Don't get me wrong, the whole reason for my first post was to pick at BIS to think of some nicer tracers, so that maybe mine wouldn't even need to be used. However, I'm sure they have bigger fish to fry.

[cerberus21 0]

Got a link to the tracer mod?

[zigzag 0]

here is a link to Wolfbanes Tracer

and here is one to Bn880 tracers

[cerberus21 0]

Thanks

[Zander 0]

not sure, i have no more ofp installed on my pc, do you have pics or a vid showing them ?

[mr burns 132]

Got a pic right here showing a tracer passing my poor alter ego by a few meters (*hint* the yellow dot in hte grass, slightly above/right of Mr. 11´s icon isn´t a firefly).

But you really should see them in motion bouncing off the ground and stuff to really develop an urge to play with them all the time.

edit: just realised that theres been 2 more tracers fired towards the enemy by my Mr. MG

[whisper 0]

I made a lil vid last night to show Bn880 tracers as used in WGL mod. But it doesn't do them justice

I need to find time to compress and upload somewhere, though. Currently at work

[Kirq 0]

I made a lil vid last night to show Bn880 tracers as used in WGL mod. But it doesn't do them justice

I need to find time to compress and upload somewhere, though. Currently at work

Thx Mate. Im looking forward to see this Vid.

[whisper 0]

I made a lil vid last night to show Bn880 tracers as used in WGL mod. But it doesn't do them justice

I need to find time to compress and upload somewhere, though. Currently at work

Thx Mate. Im looking forward to see this Vid.

Don't expect too much!

[hamis 0]

Well,bn880 if you are going to make tracers for arma,could you make them weapon specific?What about making weapon specific version for ofp,because arma is at least 2-3 months away from my country?I really like your tracers,but there is problems like non specop soldier in specop/sniper mission at night.

[Goeth 0]

i waited 5 years to see nice and realistic tracers in ofp but nothing.

Well bn880 tracers were and still are pretty damn good if you ask me. Maybe you missed them somehow.

[4 IN 1 0]

just try dxdll Tracer effect if mission dont support addon one, yes they are visible at almost every shot and the fact that they wont become firefly, but it is something that close to the real thing

[Kirq 0]

According to info about realistic balistics, penetrating materials and stoping power related to how long bullet traveled before impact i assume that every bullet in ArmA "exist" and has his own mass and speed. Propabbly bullet trajectory depands of his mass, muzzle speed and angle of shoot. I dont know anything about game programming/moding but i think that ( maybe ) to creating realistic tracers BIS should only create a "sparkle-like" visualisation of every fourth ( rifles ) and second (MG) bullet. that sparkle would travel exect track as ( unvisible) bullets do, if stories about ballistic are true .... what a rhyme . What do You think Guys ?

[Average Joe 0]

Heres a small video of wolfbanes tracers ingame

Tracer fire

It sure looks purty

[Kirq 0]

Looks nice, we have also supersonic crack on this vid

[bn880 5]

Well,bn880 if you are going to make tracers for arma,could you make them weapon specific?What about making weapon specific version for ofp,because arma is at least 2-3 months away from my country?I really like your tracers,but there is problems like non specop soldier in specop/sniper mission at night.

I'm not working on OFP projects currently. There shouldn't be a problem, my tracers are loaded per person/weapon. If you don't give a specop's HK tracers then he won't have any. Now obviously there is only one (automatically derived) setting per weapon type as we cant really track weapon objects in OFP.

EDIT: Lastly, yeah, you need to see my tracers in mission to believe it, videos and captures hardly do justice.