Drug wars

[philcommando 0]

During the early 80s, Cocaine was declared a threat to national security, with thousands of tons entering US and turning many into drug addicts. The Reagan administration declared war on cocaine.

Although cocaine is grown mainly in peru, the processing centres was in Medillin,Colombia. Small time crooks smuggled the new fad drug then and became multi billionaires with just serving the US market. Some of them became legends the way the thumbed and outwit the DEA and customs departments, smuggling in by air and sea. Some bought islands, created landing strips on them to destroy US with drugs.

Reagan admin funded Colombia's attempts to destroy the illicit processing centres hidden in the jungles manned by peasants and armed bodyguards, and sometimes, the commie rebels. Fights were not kept only to the jungles, but into the streets of Colombia as well. Drive by assasinations of the judiciary, cops, enemies were the norm. No prison could hold the drug lords as choppers and armed men were used to spring them out. Some of these fights were even imported into Florida......

US secret special military operations to support the colombian govt?.....

The purpose of this post:- Not all fights are solely nationalistic..at times, soldiers face private armies in real life. An idea for a mod perhaps?

[eestikas88 0]

fire+drugs=smoke="dizzy" soldiers

i knew that someday,someone will make drugs for ofp

but fighting against private armies in South-America is a nice idea.

[Pathy 0]

Tried and died

[JdB 151]

Tried and died

Then it just wasn't tried with enough dedication.

[Hornet85 0]

drug addons? yey PARTY!!!!!

The idea is nice some Colombian style maps and we have a war

[bucket man 2]

Very nice idea... It would be actually dead easy to make some generic South American guerillas using the John Doe kit. Few hours hard working and they would be done.

Some reseach has to be made though... what weapons they use, what uniforms they use, how do the locals dress? Not to forget a decent hispanic face pack.

[Pathy 0]

Tried and died  

Then it just wasn't tried with enough dedication.

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Sorry, but if you think that then you can get F*cked......

[CanadianTerror 0]

Quote[/b] ]Sorry, but if you think that then you can get F*cked......

That's not very christmasy.

[gavinthecat 0]

Bucket man u got a link to this John Doe kit?

[miles teg 1]

Yeah I actually was part of the old mod as I'm half Colombian myself and have alot of relatives down there.  I'm no expert on the Colombian Civil War, but I have a little knowledge about the situation there.  The primary combants aside from the Colombian Army are FARC and the ELN.   As resistance you could probably put in the AUC, a right wing paramilitary organization that while usually fighting alongside and supported by rogue elements of the Colombian Army (and possibly the CIA) is occasionally fighting with the Colombian military.

Then you have mercenaries on both sides as well from the U.S., Russia, Israel, and Northern Ireland.  

You also have US special forces, DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency), CIA, and various PMC's (Private Military Corporations) such as Dyncorp who fly the Ares Turbo Thrush crop dusters which are armed and armored.

So overall there's ALOT of cool units that could be made and tons of pictures and information on the internet for all of these groups.

This is the website for the old mod.  Surprisingly its still up:

http://www.ofpcol.galeon.com/inicio.htm

However the downloads no longer work. I still have many of these files however.  But honestly they are just retextured BIS units and not the greatest.  You really need someone with experience doing authentic looking soldier addons to do this mod in order to get authentic looking equipment.  The HYK infantry would probably be a good template model as the Colombian Army uses much of the same kit as the US Army (or at least their old kit from the 90's) while the Rebels often use captured kit from the Army.  However they have unique uniforms and a massive range of weapons.  I should also add that unlike the units in the old mod's photo gallery, the actual FARC/ELN troops don't wear those huge arm bands in combat.  Those are just for parades and ceremonies.

Aside from the military/guerilla units, there are the drug growers, ranches, body guards, and hit-men who pull most of the strings in this war. (There are really very few good guys in this civil war as everyone wants a piece of the coca pie).

At any rate, it would make for a fantastic mod I think.

But I think if the units are not fairly high quality, and just retextured BIS units, I think most people will just ignore the mod.  At least most of the US units are already made and all the weapons and vehicles (except for the Turbo Thrush crop duster) have been made in one mod or another.  Its just a matter of getting permission from those mods, repathing the textures, and modifying the textures and .config cpp files so that they will be specifically for this mod (although maybe not necessary for US units... best to just use Lasers or HYK's units along with BAS spec ops vehicles).  

For Merc choppers, Martin has a nice line of Bell Jet Ranger helicopters including one nice one with a door mounted M60 that is unmarked.

Oh yeah... and just wanted to add that Bucketman kicks ass at making infantry units.  But I hope he finishes the Lebanese/PLO units first.    

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Mr_Tea 0]

Right now there is an Documentary @ BBC WORLD. Tune in.

[Pathy 0]

Quote[/b] ]Sorry, but if you think that then you can get F*cked......

That's not very christmasy.  

No, but considering i slaved my arse of trying to create it and ended up working on an entire mod almost alone because nobody was interested enough in the idea to help, when someone turns around and tells me that i wasnt dedicated enough, they can shove it.

I spent 6 months in South America, 3 of those working in remote cloudforest in northern Ecuador, 2 hours bus journey from the Colombian border, therefore in very similar types of terrain to the Colombian highlands....beautiful.

[gatordev 219]

As someone who spent two six month deployments "intercepting" those "packages" that were coming north, I've always thought this was a great idea.  There's lots of units already available to make this happen (as was mentioned).  You even have Pappy's Go-Fasts, which are oh so fun to chase in real life    (See my avatar <--------- ).

Between Laser's units and E&S/Safety's Marines (and of course BAS's stuff), there's plenty of US kit already available.  I've been keeping an eye on the new addons that have been coming out trying to see if something could stand in for FARC or other bad guys as OPFOR in-game.  The DMA Euro Resistance was the closest so far.  Having a good island is hard to come by, too, but there are a few jungle type islands.

If someone w/ some skill came up w/ some latin units, I think it would be a great addition.  As I recall, there was a campaign by Nagual that was drug based in the Malden islands.  This was pre-BAS times, but I think he updated it (or someone did) w/ BAS units.  Regardless, there were some drug addons in there, too.

[philcommando 0]

Thanks for the feedback. This thread is not intended to be a political channel, but a factual background amazing storyline for an interesting mod that can played in ofp.

No one believes in conspiracy theories. Anyone who does is generally laffed at and discredited. In the years preceding late 60s, organised crime in US was scoffed at even by Hoover, the FBI Emperor. Anyone who thot so was considered a conspiracy theorist, until the evidence of state witness Joe Valachi that stunned americans on the inner circle of the cosa nostra/mafia.

Same with the drug lords of colombia. No one believed there was a cartel at work sending the bioweapon of cocaine to destroy US and getting rich from it, starting from the late 70s till mid 80s. Govt agencies made mistakes and refused to acknowledge that a conspiracy was in place and seldom co-ordinate their work to target the cartel, only singling out individuals.

The rebels of columbia were mainly FARC and M19 leftist insurgents. Thing is, who funded them in this impoverished 3rd world nation? USSR was already in deep financial morass with upkeeping their own weapons then. Columbia had no oil or wheat unlike Vietnam or Korea for tradeoffs. No money = no guns or ammo. The answer is drug lords. How rich they were is the example of one of the drug lord's son being arrested in Bogata. The boss offered to pay off Bogato's national debt - US$2 BILLION!

Now why would capitalistic borgeios druglords work with beggar commie idealists? Firstly, the commies controlled the countryside made up of the poor, where the cocaine labs are located. Secondly, while drug lords were rich and can afford a 500,000 strong private army, they lack the divisional trainning and organisation ability to handle it. FARC could provide it as its cadre were trained by Soviet advisers. Thirdly, EXTRADITION - the most feared weapon to a drug lord as US and Colombia had this treaty till the late 80s when millions of dollars were spent on legal talents to destroy it. Drug lords dont fear their own tuff as $$$ can buy off anyone there but in US, they can expect lifelong imprisonment and breaking rocks to earn 10cts a day.

The commies provide organisational security such as attacks onto the city ( which really happened when they attacked the palace of justice with 95 people dead who were discussing extradition ) as well as cocaine labs security, training of bodyguards for the drug lords while the cartel fund their beliefs. Each keeping each other in check by the occasional kidnap and murder of love ones even until today. The ones who ultimately suffered were the society of Colombia, for they had no power to protect anyone thru legal means, even the judges. Civil service pay was only US$200 for a judge. The druggies easily offer US$400,000 for them to turn the other way. Many died for being honest to see justice through.

Besides being a game, ofp could be an educational tool for everyone. As i have often said before, the young of today will become leaders of tomorrow. Some will become senators, some will join FBI, CIA or DEA, etc. Some will be seduced by the darkside too, but more will prefer to stand in the light. Wars are never meant to be taken lightly, and realistic simulators like ofp will be a good lesson for all.

Pathy/Miles: I guess most of the addons had already been made for such a mod. 3rd world nations uses hodge podged array of weapons anyway. I guess more critical for such mods to take place is Missons, not addons ( maybe just a cocaine lab, learjets or 2).

[diamondweapon 0]

Hmmm, maybe this could be used watch in the video US Chem Corp tests on soldiers Its a cool video, what a fun time that would have been if they did that to us at basic this past summer.

[awa202 0]

hell maybe u cld even put harrison ford in there like in clear and present danger!

[cozza 24]

Do a Pablo Escobar missions. That guy was earning half a mil US a day. But the AUC and Farc and all the others are well armed. I saw one with a Automatic grenade launcher PK's, AKs, hell even m16. With the ammount of money they have they probley hav t80's in the jungle

[Pathy 0]

Pathy/Miles: I guess most of the addons had already been made for such a mod. 3rd world nations uses hodge podged array of weapons anyway. I guess more critical for such mods to take place is Missons, not addons ( maybe just a cocaine lab, learjets or 2).  

That wasnt the case at the time, we had to make everything if we wanted it, because it didnt exist prior. Then again, you've said before that you think i'm the type of addon maker who moves a vertice on someone elses work and claims it as thier own, so i shouldnt have expected you to realise how long i've been involved in OFP modding

[philcommando 0]

Quote[/b] ]you've said before that you think i'm the type of addon maker who moves a vertice on someone elses work and claims it as thier own

Huh??..Me??...lol! i have never said such a thing about anyone. You always had my respect and i sure do know u from years way back.

Anyway, the drug wars are part of America history as much as it is for the rest of western world for drug culture is not solely an american national threat. Millions of youths around the world had their lives wasted and rotted from drug usage. In the early 90s, President George Bush Snr gave the Columbian govt US$6million to combat the cartel, choppers, weapons, ammo, C130s. Even US troops stood ready for combat duties if the Columbian govt wanted it, which in public they said no, but what happens covertly, no one knows.

Fortunately the drug lords were just street punks who had no or little education, and were generally in their 30s. Had they been university educated, a little smarter, and with all that money, a little more matured, they would have ruled the world. But even then, as they are, they were already negotiating with heads of states and made demands for their legitimacy as if they own the world just by being the guy holding the bioweapon's tap, controlling the flow. I guess there're many ways to script a mission based on factual storylines. UNSUNG's mod islands could easily pass off as S. american jungle perhaps?

[Hornet85 0]

US SOG and LRRP units whent in to Colombia in the 90s to fight in the drug wars so US SF missions can be nice

[gatordev 219]

Hornet85 beat me to it...there's definitely been operators in-country for a long time (read Killing Pablo by Mark Bowden).  As someone who was down there IRL, I can tell you the system they have set up is NOT run by 30 year old street drug dealers w/ no education.  They are incredibly smart about how they manage and ship their product.  You would be amazed at the network they have set up each and every day, and the amount of intelligence data that gets collected to combat them.

@Diamondweapon:

If they did that w/ cocaine, they'd all be dead.  

[Commando84 0]

ohh man drug mission, damn they showed on swedish tv channel 4 clear and present danger a day or two ago and wow would be cool to recreate those battle scenes when the Sf guys get all surroundead in the jungle. But if i would been there i would have fought harder

we would need a huey, latino face pack , dunno we already got weapons like fal and ak's in jam weapons that could be used. But hey there is tons of stuff that can be expanded there into many different directions.