Russkie 0 Posted December 3, 2005 I have a P4 2.6Ghz, WinXP, Geforce 4 MX(DX7.0/8.0), 512mb RAM, 112GB HDS. I own Flashpoint, and it runs smoothly without any problems. Will AA feature the next generation graphics that require a graphics card at least with a DX 9.0 support( I have only a DX 8.0 software support)? Other games like Half-life 2 feature next generation technology, but amazingly it runs smoothly on my computer dispite having a graphics card that is two years old. But other games like BattleField 2(which I tired to play the demo version) won't even accept my computer. Will AA tolerate 'today's generation computers'? meaning that I will have at least 40-60 Frames per second on screen? Frankly the only real difference between the new graphics cards I see is that they have new realistic water effects, which is not a huge drawback for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stonge 0 Posted December 3, 2005 No one knows yet, BIS has not published any system requirements. They did mention in yesterday's press release that the game will be optimized for DX9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 3, 2005 I seen rumors that 'if you can play OFP:R/OFP then you can play AA' before. Since this game is made in Czech, I hope they recognize that most people are not hard-core gamers, that spend 200$ on new graphics cards annually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 3, 2005 I have a P4 2.6Ghz, WinXP, Geforce 4 MX(DX7.0/8.0), 512mb RAM, 112GB HDS.I own Flashpoint, and it runs smoothly without any problems. Will AA feature the next generation graphics that require a graphics card at least with a DX 9.0 support( I have only a DX 8.0 software support)? Other games like Half-life 2 feature next generation technology, but amazingly it runs smoothly on my computer dispite having a graphics card that is two years old. Â But other games like BattleField 2(which I tired to play the demo version) won't even accept my computer. Â Will AA tolerate 'today's generation computers'? meaning that I will have at least 40-60 Frames per second on screen? Frankly the only real difference between the new graphics cards I see is that they have new realistic water effects, which is not a huge drawback for me. I am quite sure that the game will work with true DX8 gfx cards. Your gfx card on otherhand is basically a renamed and slightly updated gf2 mx card which was released in summer 2000 I believe. It has no support for shaders etc. So expect that you will need at least dx8 hardware support. DX8 has been around for more than five years which is an eternity in the computer/gaming industry. The good thing is that I don't believe that the game will require DX9 cards which wouldn't had been surprising if we had talked about another game. The reason why you can play HL2 with a decent frame rate on your computer is because your gfx card can't handle the majority of the features and effects the game offers so it simply skips them. The game you see looks much worse than what those with DX9 cards sees. If you still don't care about the new features and effect the newer cards offers they still have superiour performance, especially with never games such as ArmA. If ArmA happens to support your card don't expect many graphical improvements compared to OFP. You will most likely be forced to run the game on quite low detail for your card to keep up the frame rate. Quote[/b] ]I seen rumors that 'if you can play OFP:R/OFP then you can play AA' before. It's not a rumour, it was just my guessing. I was also refering more towards the CPU and RAM. To be more precise my guess would be that a 1.3-1.4 ghz CPU with 512mb ram might be the minimum requirement. That is pretty much what you need to be able to Resistance fairly smoothly without being forced to cut down the details and view distance too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 3, 2005 Are DX8.0 cards pretty cheap now. Is there any DX9.0 cards that are less than 250$. What's the best strategy? buy a cheap DX 8.0 or get a 9.0. Computer chips update so fast, I fear that 9.0 will go obsolete. Will 9.0 last another 2-4 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Are DX8.0 cards pretty cheap now. Is there any DX9.0 cards that are less than 250$.What's the best strategy? buy a cheap DX 8.0 or get a 9.0. Computer chips update so fast, I fear that 9.0 will go obsolete. Will 9.0 last another 2-4 years? There's no point in getting a card with dx8 hardware support if you even can find one. It wont take long before games will require dx9 hardware support. The FX series did support dx9 but I would avoid them and instead go for the 6xxx series. A Geforce 6200 can be found for around $50-60. It's very cheap and it includes all the features from its older brothers but it's not the best gaming card. It's still lightyears ahead of your card and it's most likely much better than the best dx8 card. I would personally go for a Geforce 6600 GT which is a great card for a great price. I guess you can find one for $140-150. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Thanks, I appreciate your advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Thanks, I appreciate your advice. You're welcome. A new card wouldn't do much good for your OFP looks and performance as OFP doesn't take advantage of the power but ArmA will for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fork122 0 Posted December 4, 2005 A Geforce 6200 can be found for around $50-60. It's very cheap and it includes all the features from its older brothers but it's not the best gaming card. It's still lightyears ahead of your card and it's most likely much better than the best dx8 card. I would personally go for a Geforce 6600 GT which is a great card for a great price. I guess you can find one for $140-150. I have a 256 MB Geforce 6200 in my computer. Â It's a great videocard for a low price. Â It doesn't play games as well as some fancy $300 and $400 cards do, but it still does what it's supposed to very nicely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Can someone tell me the difference between PCI express and AGP8X? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntipopAU 3 Posted December 4, 2005 PCI Express is faster, and is a newer card. AGP is still fast, but not as fast as the PCI Express cards. All new Nvidia Cards are PCI-Express, but all of their oldies, including 6800GT's are AGP. But, all the 'New' ATI Radeon Cards are AGP and PCI-Express. And most 'older' motherboards only take AGP, alot of the new ones only take PCI-Express, there are only a few out there that take both! So if you have a new PC, go with PCI Express (Make sure you can take it back, just incase your motherboard only supports AGP). But for the best option, take your PC into your local store, and get them to tell you what type of video-card slot it is, AGP or PCI-Express. Hope that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 4, 2005 I have a HP A250N model. It has both PCI(two open) and AGP( one, assuming my current card is using it). Is it possible to have two graphic cards at the same time operating? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 4, 2005 I have a HP A250N model. Â It has both PCI(two open) and AGP(ne and closed, assuming my current card is using it). Â Is it possible to have two graphic cards at the same time operating? PCI express is not the same as PCI. PCI-E is the new standard which replaces the AGP slots just like the AGP slots once repleaced the normal PCI slots. The chances are minimal that you have a PCI-E slot on your motherboard(mobo). You need to figure out how long you will keep your current mobo. If you plan to change it quite soon you should wait with buying a new AGP gfx card and then buy a PCI-E mobo and PCI-E gfx card at the same time. If you plan to keep it a couple of years then you should maybe go for a cheaper agp gfx card such as the GF 6200. By the time you'll get a new mobo you probably wan't to upgrade your gfx card too. @SGT. Hurley The 6xxx series of Geforce are all available as PCI-e and AGP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leopardi 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Hey, I have a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb, Is there any sense to get a 6600gt? Is there a big difference? Does my card support DX9? I was thinking about XFX GeForce 6600GT 256Mb, since it is only 180€. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ziiip 1 Posted December 4, 2005 I'm gonna buy an X700 Pro 128 MB DDR, hopefully it'll do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Espectro (DayZ) 0 Posted December 4, 2005 ive got an old gf4 ti4600, it actually runs most new games fairly well, despite its age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 4, 2005 The chances are minimal that you have a PCI-E slot on your motherboard(mobo). You need to figure out how long you will keep your current mobo. If you plan to change it quite soon you should wait with buying a new AGP gfx card and then buy a PCI-E mobo and PCI-E gfx card at the same time. If you plan to keep it a couple of years then you should maybe go for a cheaper agp gfx card such as the GF 6200. By the time you'll get a new mobo you probably wan't to upgrade your gfx card too. I'm the type of person that buys a system once every 6 years. I don't usually upgrade until everything becomes obsolete. Before I purchased my HP P4, I used to have a home-made PII 400mhz computer I had the balls to play OFP on a PII, it did work, but I played a slideshow most of the time. Will a Geforce 6600 last me for another good 3 or 4 years? I'm not planning to buy another motherboard, my 2.6ghz CPU is still pretty good on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
450R 1 Posted December 4, 2005 I don't think anyone should be rushing to upgrade their hardware for Armed Assault before they've tested it on their current PC. Considering the optimizations that we know about in the new DX9 engine, it isn't unlikely that Armed Assault would run as well or even better than OFP on modern hardware. Might as well wait and see. The other advantage of waiting is, if you do end up needing new hardware it'll be cheaper by the time Armed Assault comes out. Having said that, if you're still looking for a new video card, the GeForce 6600GT is undoubtedly the best bang-for-your-buck card available at the moment, and would definitely last another 2 years (providing you don't play every game on high settings). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 4, 2005 well, I need a X-mas gift for myself. I'm not planning to buy anything else for x-mas. At least get new card to celebrate the new years too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Hey,I have a Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb, Is there any sense to get a 6600gt? Is there a big difference? Does my card support DX9? I was thinking about XFX GeForce 6600GT 256Mb, since it is only 180€. Your card supports DX9. The difference is hard to tell but in GPU heavy games such as UT, HL2, D3 etc. you can probably expect a doubled framerate. @Espectro Yes, the GF 4600ti was a the best card of its generation but it's a dx8 card and it doesn't support many of the new features hence games looks uglier but runs quite well due to the features not being shown. It's still not comparable to new mid price cards. @Russkie If you'll buy a 6600 GT it will last longer than your current system. You should know though that you won't see a big difference in OFP performance as the game fails to take advantage of the power. It might instead give you problems as there are lots of drivers which are terrible for OFP. So there's no hurry to get a new unless you play other games too and want a huge performance and visual boost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Will a Geforce 6600 last me for another good 3 or 4 years?I'm not planning to buy another motherboard, my 2.6ghz CPU is still pretty good on it. In short.. No, i doubt a 6600 card will be any good in 2 years, latest nvidia drivers dont even seem to take advantage of it but only for 7800/6800 and SLI people . I have a 6600GT and im considering upgrading to a whole new system depending on what comes out in 2006 (not much it seems), also my card killed OPFR for me, keep that in mind . If there are current games out now that you would like to play then yes, it might be worth but if you plan to play future games with it in good detail and performance i doubt the 6600GT will last. Seeing has you still have a mx card an upgrade should be in order but for Arma i would rather wait for system specs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted December 4, 2005 Will a Geforce 6600 last me for another good 3 or 4 years?I'm not planning to buy another motherboard, my 2.6ghz CPU is still pretty good on it. In short.. No, i doubt a 6600 card will be any good in 2 years, latest nvidia drivers dont even seem to take advantage of it but only for 7800/6800 and SLI people . I have a 6600GT and im considering upgrading to a whole new system depending on what comes out in 2006 (not much it seems), also my card killed OPFR for me, keep that in mind . If there are current games out now that you would like to play then yes, it might be worth but if you plan to play future games with it in good detail and performance i doubt the 6600GT will last. Seeing has you still have a mx card an upgrade should be in order but for Arma i would rather wait for system specs. It's more likely that his 2.6ghz CPU will be outdated before the 6600 GT is. He is quite pleased with his 4-5 year old gfx card and it's a low budget card. So he will be more than pleased with his 6600 GT 2 years in the future. Of course it wont be that good compared to the best available but nothing you can buy now will be. You don't need the latest drivers. I have four year old drivers and all games I play works fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Russkie 0 Posted December 5, 2005 I haven't played OFP for over a year, so I know Geforce 6600 won't make a difference on it. Geforce 6200 looks like it has only the DX9 shader, is that like the minim. feature that supports DX9? I have other games such as HL-2 and Doom 3. I'm very lucky both of these games work with decent framerates. Don't you think graphics will eventually come to a haul? How far can go once you reach photographic-realism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted December 6, 2005 On the BIS site, it says that arma supports HDR, I dont know if it is optional, but to run HDR you need a 6/7 series nvidia geforce, ATi support for HDR is shaky, even on the latest cards. Very few games require more than a 2GHz CPU to operate. I'm sure if you have a 2.6/2.8Ghz CPU, 512mb RAM and an FX 5700/ Radeon 9800 graphics it shouldwork ok, if not on best settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites