BIS? Editing Manual?

[Nightjay0044 1]

I would really love to see an editing manual made for Operation flashopint, that either you can download online or buy in stores. I mean something that is well organized and thought up other then the OFP sites out there, which they are useful but we need an editors manual that covers pretty much all aspects of mission editing from placing simple individual units all the way to advanced scripting and external editng.

Something with photos, tones of examples codes, detailed expalainations for peopel to understand and everything. I have this vision of an OFP manual

If people could converse about this with me especially official BIS Members that would be great, because I would really love to see one, and I'm sure other people would too.

THanks guys..

[Chris Death 0]

hmm - You know what? This will not happen.

BIS stopped supporting OFP CWC and RES with any kind of

releases some time ago.

Since everything AND more has already been figured out

by 'the user(s)' it also doesn't make an comercial sense

for BIS trying to sell something, where the majority would

say: why bothering to pay for something, what i can get

free from the web - like you already mentioned yourself on

various fan sites like OFPEC or the official forums (just to

name the two most popular ones - there are off course more).

Also: if BIS would do such kind of thing, keep in mind that

this is almost like teaching a whole programing language, as

lots of ppl aren't used with various programing techniques

which make the big difference when it comes to efficiency

of scripting or even the in-game editor.

Since you are already working on a tutorial (like seen in

Mission editing and scripting board here) i'd suggest you

to do that on your own or with your team and try to sell

it on Ebay or summit like that. You will then see how many

ppl will buy this and then you would be able to say wether it was worth all that effort or not

If you ask me i'd say in advance: no it's not worth at given

date.

~S~ CD

[sanctuary 19]

Not updated with the new commands from Resistance, as it was made in the CWC era, but for a beginner it is certainly the best thing that is close to a real (and really complete) editing manual, providing illustrations with texts.

It is a 300 pages pdf, so enough reading to keep you busy.

Ãœber editor tutorial

if you don't like fileplanet for downloading, you can get it there too.

mirror

[HotShot 0]

Theirs a Manual on the CD

[Chris Death 0]

Theirs a Manual on the CD

Sorry HotShot but this manual for make your first basic

mission without any scripting or any enhanced editor features

is for sure not anything close to what Nightjay meant by

his request, while i still agree to what i said in my first reply

2 posts above

~S~ CD

[Nightjay0044 1]

Chris Death~

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">it also doesn't make an comercial sense

for BIS trying to sell something, where the majority would

say: why bothering to pay for something, what i can get

free from the web  

Hey yeah good point. I understand that, and beleive me I had that concept kind of in my mind before I posted this thread. But it was worth a try,and maybe some day I will come out with an editing manual from start to finish.  

Yeah there are lots of sites out there to help you. Exactly you can get it for free, which may be more time consuming then a complete editing manual from BIS.

I'm just had the vision of a complete one with everything compiled into one big understanding manual with all of OFP editing glory. Maybe someday it could come true. but until then, I can keep working at it.  

Sanctuary~

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">Not updated with the new commands from Resistance, as it was made in the CWC era, but for a beginner it is certainly the best thing that is close to a real (and really complete) editing manual, providing illustrations with texts.

It is a 300 pages pdf, so enough reading to keep you busy

Yes, I actually do have this, it's pretty good. But i'm talking about something  a lot more complete. Thanks.

HotShot~

hey, and I actually already went through this step-by-step first tutorial a couple times.

[HotShot 0]

It tells you how to code a briefing, how to use the condition and activasion fields, synchronising waypoints, and gives examples of them, all you need to do is then use the code from the Official Command Reference. I guess it didn;t cover all aspects, and the Official Command Reference was released latere as opposed to on the CD, but i think the CD manual did a good job of explaining the parts of editing and the commands reference backed it up with what things you can add.

I do however see that it does miss out the external scripting, such as adding music, how to execute a script, among other things, but i think it covers the vast majority of things people need for missions.

[Placebo 29]

Moving to ME&S.

[mattxr 9]

something like

For Flashpoint which shows you everything.. i would like one for Armed Assult

[Nightjay0044 1]

Yeah that would be cool. Something that is complete with great walkthroughs on every aspect of editing.

Okay, we can all keep this topic going if you wish.

[Trapper 0]

This one already came with the German Gold Upgrade (Red Hammer Campaign and Upgrades 1 to 3)

Campaign Walkthrough: 42 pages

Multiplayer Missions: 9 pages

Mission Editing: 9 pages

It's the best "official" editor manual I know. It covers the basic thoughts before editing, and the whole mission editor tutorial that you're working on Nightjay. But in german of course. And it doesn't mention scripting at all.

[mattxr 9]

i dont recall seeing an english version

[Nightjay0044 1]

Trapper~

Yes, actually I do have this for the enlish version. I got mine when I Bought the gold upgrade in stores years ago. Ah it's all right. I went through it. It's not that great.

I'm not saying it's not useful, which it is. I'm talking about something more complete. Thats' just my vision on the whole thing. Complete as in,it gives you step-by-step illustrations and photos on basic editing, advacned editind, scripting and such.

That's basically what I mean. Something that will not make you ask a bunch of questions and you can learn on your own, and maybe with some help.

There's more of my theory on that.

[shinRaiden 0]

That's just a campaign walkthrough with some tips on starting mission dev. Even the VBS PDF manual doesn't hardly scratch the surface. The UberManual is the only thing remotely close to an offline OFPEC, and that's minimal and old and incomplete.

The problems initially lie more in the knowing WHAT to do vs HOW to do, but for more advanced work you need more specs.

[crashdome 3]

Wasn't HardRock doing something?

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/hardrock/en/index.php

Whatever happened with that. Looked real good - complete with some tutorials?

[nephilim 0]

there are doznes of such material

liek to mention a few

mr.murray editing manual

some stuff from AEF etc etc

just browse google or

humle over to ofpec.com

[baddo 0]

Wasn't HardRock doing something?

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/hardrock/en/index.php

Whatever happened with that. Looked real good - complete with some tutorials?

hardrock's answer

...so it might take some time until that is out of his door.

[456820 0]

would be a great idea for ArmA make the editor seem more friendly i had the strategy guide and i still found it difficult to get started

[Nightjay0044 1]

Yeah, I agree, it's a resource. But it's not all there and not user friendly.

We need something that explains something from start to finish. Such as:

Get a soldier to move from here to here.

Get a soldier to kill this unit or this unit.

Get a soldier to throw his granade at this unit or this unit.

Get a soldier to snipe off an enemy from a far distance.

Such like that examples with compelte detail and user friendly illustrations and walkthroughs and tips and such. That would be really nice to have a huge manual on that online or in a book or something and not just scattered all over OFPEC, which OFPEC is not a bad website I love that site along with other sites out there, I"m just saying for something to get us to understand more.

Please don't respond saying, well why don't you do it; why because I don't have the resources and knowlegde too like BIS would with all there people and resources or such as OFPEC as they do.

So there is some more input on that...