dslyecxi 23 Posted May 29, 2006 Is it safe to hope for the features found in VBS1 will be in Armed Assault? Since ArmA is using a heavily built VBS1 engine, I don't see why many of the features can't be implemented. The ones like Artillery, moving inside vehicles etc. Or will I be sorely disappointed? I think it's realistic to expect that some features from VBS1 will show up in ArmA in some capacity. I don't think we should expect all of them, though. Set your expectations such that you only expect to see one or two VBS1 features, because I'm sure they'll deliver that. Then, if they end up including more, you'll be pleasantly surprised by it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ukraineboy 0 Posted May 29, 2006 Is it safe to hope for the features found in VBS1 will be in Armed Assault? Since ArmA is using a heavily built VBS1 engine, I don't see why many of the features can't be implemented. The ones like Artillery, moving inside vehicles etc. Or will I be sorely disappointed? I think it's realistic to expect that some features from VBS1 will show up in ArmA in some capacity. I don't think we should expect all of them, though. Set your expectations such that you only expect to see one or two VBS1 features, because I'm sure they'll deliver that. Then, if they end up including more, you'll be pleasantly surprised by it. Well really all I want is shooting outside of APCs and Tanks. Everything else would be nice but that needs to be a priority. Also in VBS1, when you could pop out of the hatch in say the M113, can you duck too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted May 29, 2006 Sorry to break your chain, lads - but it'd be nice to actually be able to "get out" of an APC. You know, have the ramp/doors opening, then being able to run out into the wide open world... a bit late for this suggestion, but it would be nice to see it in Game2 at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ukraineboy 0 Posted May 29, 2006 Sorry to break your chain, lads - but it'd be nice to actually be able to "get out" of an APC. You know, have the ramp/doors opening, then being able to run out into the wide open world... a bit late for this suggestion, but it would be nice to see it in Game2 at least. Nah thats too much. I just want the VBS1 feature of shooting out if it. Thats enough because it actually has something useful. But the walking around or getting out is just eye candy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dslyecxi 23 Posted May 29, 2006 Well really all I want is shooting outside of APCs and Tanks. Everything else would be nice but that needs to be a priority.Also in VBS1, when you could pop out of the hatch in say the M113, can you duck too? Have you seen the videos that show this feature in VBS1? It looks like you could duck if you wanted to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted May 29, 2006 Got confused - ignore this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr reality 0 Posted May 29, 2006 I think CameronMcDonald has a valid point as i would also like to de-bus from an APC whithout having to go through an animation. I think the shooting from the APC is eye candy as what does it provide. The main gun is for support not the guys inside. The whole point of an APC is to get a squad of men into a danger area as quickly and as safely as possible. If your taking small-arms fire then an APC can handle that and the main gun will deal with any AT threat. If the threat of an AT weapon was there then you would de-bus and take him out with your squad. This means the de-bussing of the APC is vitally important. The VBS1 video showing the fireing from the APC was just showing what is possible with this new adaption of the Flashpoint engine and is geared mostly to tank commanders rather than soldiers inside vehicles. That's just my thoughts on the subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FriketMonkey 0 Posted May 29, 2006 Sorry to break your chain, lads - but it'd be nice to actually be able to "get out" of an APC. You know, have the ramp/doors opening, then being able to run out into the wide open world... a bit late for this suggestion, but it would be nice to see it in Game2 at least. Nah thats too much. I just want the VBS1 feature of shooting out if it. Thats enough because it actually has something useful. But the walking around or getting out is just eye candy. WOW... hope something like this would be in armed assault.. Drive by shooting here we come! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codarl 1 Posted May 29, 2006 Sorry to break your chain, lads - but it'd be nice to actually be able to "get out" of an APC. You know, have the ramp/doors opening, then being able to run out into the wide open world... a bit late for this suggestion, but it would be nice to see it in Game2 at least. Nah thats too much. I just want the VBS1 feature of shooting out if it. Thats enough because it actually has something useful. But the walking around or getting out is just eye candy. WOW... hope something like this would be in armed assault.. Drive by shooting here we come! Walking around in vehicles is already confirmed for Game2 ffs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dslyecxi 23 Posted May 29, 2006 What do I hope will be in ArmA? Everything in this article. Will it happen? Nope, but one can dream. There's a discussion about said article in the offtopic forum if you hadn't already seen it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted May 29, 2006 Those realistic weapon recoils and kinetics would be grand. I'd love to mess up some houses and/or enemies with a Ma Deuce or DShK, and see nice little craters where my rounds have penetrated walls and/or bodies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ukraineboy 0 Posted May 29, 2006 Those realistic weapon recoils and kinetics would be grand. I'd love to mess up some houses and/or enemies with a Ma Deuce or DShK, and see nice little craters where my rounds have penetrated walls and/or bodies. Ballistics and kinetics are in, but not penetration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dslyecxi 23 Posted May 30, 2006 Those realistic weapon recoils and kinetics would be grand. I'd love to mess up some houses and/or enemies with a Ma Deuce or DShK, and see nice little craters where my rounds have penetrated walls and/or bodies. Ballistics and kinetics are in, but not penetration. Penetration IS in, we just don't know in what capacity. We do know that it can be material-specific, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted May 30, 2006 Something which has probably been mentioned before - I'd like to see a true-to-life deployable weapon system... like WGL, except built into the engine. If not, then hopefully the scripting system will still (it 99% probably will, I reckon) will still allow for our WGL-esque workaround. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Homefry 0 Posted May 30, 2006 My thoughts may have been mentioned before, but I don't have time to sort through 30 pages of text. First off, I just hope that the AI can land a helicopter in a decent manner. I hate flying over an area... and hovering (under fire), while the AI tries to place the helicopter down at a rate of 3m/s. Secondly, a large part of wishful thinking on my part. Some sort of scripting commands that will alter how the VoIP system is used. For example, limit the functionality of certain radio channels to certain individuals (or individuals carrying a weapon, such as a radio). In this system, everyone could talk locally (so that only those around you can hear you), but only men with radios could talk to other individuals with radios. Furthermore, it'd be nice to have some sort of large-scale command system, especially for MP play. It'd be nice to include some sort of chain of command into missions, even if it only scales up a few levels. This way, CTI missions could become much more organized. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted May 30, 2006 Those realistic weapon recoils and kinetics would be grand. I'd love to mess up some houses and/or enemies with a Ma Deuce or DShK, and see nice little craters where my rounds have penetrated walls and/or bodies. Ballistics and kinetics are in, but not penetration. Penetration IS in, we just don't know in what capacity. We do know that it can be material-specific, though. We are able to define the kind of material something is made of (wood, steel,...) so that probably defines is we can shoot trough something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Average Joe 0 Posted May 30, 2006 I HOPE aswell as penetration bullet impacts will look more realistic when hitting different materials such as buildings, tree's and metal. Not the same brown, measly, unsatisfying puff out of everything shot. I know its forum suicide but to heck with it anyways.... TAKE BF2 FOR EXAMPLE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted May 30, 2006 @ Average Joe:  I think you may just be the first person to make a connection with something GOOD in BF2 and not get lynched.  That was a very valid point. (if you're alive tommorow, congratulations   ) @ Homefry: I think by the [edit]: video [/edit](please BIS let it be so) that the helo drivers have no problem slamming their birds down.  They seemed to land quite decently IMHO  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Friedchiken 0 Posted May 31, 2006 I HOPE aswell as penetration bullet impacts will look more realistic when hitting different materials such as buildings, tree's and metal. Not the same brown, measly, unsatisfying puff out of everything shot.I know its forum suicide but to heck with it anyways.... TAKE BF2 FOR EXAMPLE Â *Gasp* You lie! Well, sounds cool, I have always thought that those brown puffs could use some improvement. Not too important, but good impact effects make things much more intense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bravo 6 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Agreed. The running animations seem to be unfinished (?) and the weapon view is...new. Usually when you run, your weapon is pointed down and therefore you don't even see it until you aim. The weaponview in AA (from the vids) block a lot of sight and I hope BI changes it. I also agree that the helmet should stop bullets, although not CS-style. I hope that range and bullet caliber (ballistics) play a role in helmet protection in ArmA, as I see no reason why not to implement it (It is realistic). i agree and want it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardrock 1 Posted May 31, 2006 Agreed. The running animations seem to be unfinished (?) and the weapon view is...new. Usually when you run, your weapon is pointed down and therefore you don't even see it until you aim. The weaponview in AA (from the vids) block a lot of sight and I hope BI changes it. I also agree that the helmet should stop bullets, although not CS-style. I hope that range and bullet caliber (ballistics) play a role in helmet protection in ArmA, as I see no reason why not to implement it (It is realistic). i agree and want it. Maybe, because its priority is too low compared to other, more important things? Guys, your wishing won't bring you anywhere. BIS will include what they will, but they can't change the world within some months. I guess this image fits here pretty well, too . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Average Joe 0 Posted May 31, 2006 Yeah we know but since place is on his holidays and it seems the rest of BIS is speculation keeps my brain ticking over until we get some nice new information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NKVD 0 Posted May 31, 2006 I HOPE aswell as penetration bullet impacts will look more realistic when hitting different materials such as buildings, tree's and metal. Not the same brown, measly, unsatisfying puff out of everything shot.I know its forum suicide but to heck with it anyways.... TAKE BF2 FOR EXAMPLE The best effects so far are in GRAW but BF2 style will do also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squeeze 22 Posted June 1, 2006 I'd like to enter the names of squad members, like worms....so i could send my Boss off to do suicide missions while I try and keep people I like safe.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jj29 0 Posted June 2, 2006 i hope there will be weapon sway in ama.So playing it will be something more than only shooting.If we can't hit our target easily,we will have to use tactics and the game will be more interesting.I have heard that there is already weapon sway in ama.Is that true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites