miles teg 1 Posted June 24, 2005 Its hard to tell. From just basic technical data, it looks that way. However if you stuck ERA on a Abrams (which the US Army would almost certainly do if they ever went up against an Army with modern MBT's), then the balance changes very quickly. The M1A2 TUSK variant for example has ERA side panels. With that said, there are always weak spots on a tank. What I predict will happen is that tank ammunition will begin to evolve into primary "shotgun" AP loads designed to penetrate and detonate several ERA bricks on an enemy tank followed by a SABOT round fired into the area cleared by the first shotgun penetrator round. Also its unknown about how good the combat performance is of current Russian 125mm cannons (and its fire control systems) or how well they fire on the move. What is known is that the M1 series fires very accurately while moving in combat. The US Challenger 2 tanks are even more accurate and have better range by all accounts. At any rate, yeah between a Black Eagle and a M1A2, the Black Eagle (especially if mounted with that new 152mm cannon) would probably a tougher tank to kill and more lethal if the cannon and fire control system is well made. Now Russia just has to buy the darn thing....but so far they haven't bought any. Its just an export tank for South Korea. As for armor values. I agree that stand alone tank addons and tank packs should have very similar armor values. But mods should not. I know my mod is quite happy with our armor values (our tanks take a beating from RPG's). But our stuff is also not really designed to be mixed up with other addons. Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted June 24, 2005 Hey, I thought the ROK is producing the K2 MBT, which is produced by Hyundai? The power plant is German, the maingun is a Rheinmetal 120mm smoothbore, and the armor is license-built Chobham on a turret and hull very similar to the Leopard II. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mechastalin 0 Posted June 25, 2005 I've noticed that Steel Panthers-Main Battle Tank has the Black Eagle. http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=47074 game info there.It's in the more modern years under Export Tank,For Russia of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sigma-6 29 Posted July 1, 2005 Quote[/b] ]The Canadian Leopard variants C-1 and C-2 were done by Operation Northstar and released some time ago. IIRC it was based on a BWMOD model from their 1.2 or 1.3 release. True enough (of the originals), though now the only components that are original BWmod are the interiors. Sorry to interrupt your discussion. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.COMmunist 0 Posted July 27, 2005 I think in about a week or so you will see a new T-90 made by one of the new Russian addon makers. There were lots of talk about it on the Flashpoint.ru He promised lots of cool features on it. I think it is time to upgrade Sigma-6 tanks. I am looking forward to this new addon. One more Russian armored vehicle that nobody talks about is Sprut. It is an airborne anti-tank APC. It kind of looks like BMP-3, but has a 120mm main gun that can fire anti-MBT rounds and AT missiles. With some of the best paratroopers made for OFP by Russians, this Sprut can provide excellent AT support behind enemy lines. We already have MI-26 in OFP that can paradrop armor, so it would be great to have this addition to the armored family. Here is a link http://www.warfare.ru/?catid=240&linkid=1579 If some of you tank makers ran out of ideas, consider this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Przezdzieblo 0 Posted July 27, 2005 <OT> few more data about Black Eagle plus armour estimates http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/MBT/640_armor.html </OT> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.COMmunist 0 Posted July 27, 2005 I'll be damned ... Sprut-SD. Seems like there is something for everyone in OFP community. Thanks Shadow. By any chance, are you ppl working on S-400 also, or even some good bombers ( like Su-24 or even Tu-22 )? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted July 28, 2005 Wasn't RHS working on an excellent looking T-80? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted July 29, 2005 RHS is indeed working on a T80 pack as far as I know. If you play CLSAII the default T80 model is replaced with RHS's T80BV. A great preview of what's to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 29, 2005 We decided the textures are a bit too blurry for current standards so Soul Assassin decided to reskin them and also edit the models a bit more. Also the Shtora and Arena systems will work as they should. About air units, atm we only have the Hinds, Ka-50/52 and the Su-25s in the works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gedis 0 Posted July 29, 2005 Shadow NX, super great news!!! Shtora and Arena-E are functional in ofp! that's umbelievable!! but what about Drozd? Does T-80s will be with it? P.S. good decision to retexture, because that T-80BV in CSLAII from top looks strange, i mean textures are not same as they were from sides or front... (blured) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted July 29, 2005 You mentioned Kamov Ka-50/52... So you're making both -50 and two-seat -52? Nice. BTW any info about the Ka-60 Kasatka chopper? Or anyone making T-98 jeep? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.COMmunist 0 Posted July 29, 2005 Couple of month ago I've seen a thread that somebody was making SA-8 Osa. Was it your group Shadow NX that was making this thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-8_Gecko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted July 29, 2005 No, its no RHS project Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted July 29, 2005 SpetzNatz or MCAR project would be my best guess, but it might've been e.g. DKM as search gave it as the 2nd option... And 1st was this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xnodunitx 0 Posted July 29, 2005 Anybody noticed OFP addons seem to have some of the highest graphic quality close up? I mean sure these gmes like BF2 and so on have good graphics far but when you get real close it gets pretty fuzzy even at the highest level,unlike with OFP addons the sharpness pretty much doesnt go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted July 29, 2005 Hard to believe when thinking that the engine is 4 years old, but definetly true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites