Fenix83 0 Posted January 14, 2002 why can't we get the gears up with the Mi-24 ? Why Bohemia put a 30mm gun on the Mi-24 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenix83 0 Posted January 14, 2002 Why creator let us use the Rocket LAW more than 1 time. Why A-10 sucks so much against tank (fire rate too low, the GAU-8 AVENGER can fire 3'900 rounds a minute). Same for AH-64. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted January 14, 2002 The A-10 doesn't suck against tanks as long as you've got any Mavericks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenix83 0 Posted January 14, 2002 its sad cause the power of the real A-10 is its GAU-8 damnpowerfullhighratefire gun 30mm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Gerschwarzenge 0 Posted January 14, 2002 I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the leg with a GAU-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted January 14, 2002 That's one big gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangus 0 Posted January 14, 2002 The creators of this game have underestimated the power of several firearms in the game. The Avenger cannon on the A-10 for instance can kill a main battle tank, yet in the game they do not treat it like it can. Also the Vulcan can disable or even kill a main battle tank, but in the game fat chance of that happening. The 50 calibur weapon on the M113 is NOT a standard feature of M113s, usually they have an M-60 on top and that's it. Still, some did have the M2 up there, and the M2 is a powerful weapon. The M2 can shoot through the armor of a BMP, yet in the game it does NOTHING to the BMP. This needs to be fixed. The .308 and 7.62x54R weapons in the game need to have better penetration. IRL these guns can handily shoot through 8 inches of concrete, and still be lethal on the other side at short ranges. The sides of helicopters should offer little to no protection against these rounds. In fact, the M113 should not reliably stop these rounds either. IRL the aluminum crappy armor of this vehicle was not even reliably able to stop either. In Vietnam this was a HUGE problem. Enemies using captured M-60s and their own PKs were shooting through the sides of them and killing occupants. Worse yet, little Vietnamese with crappy Mosin-Nagant WW2 surplus(rifles that were the crappiest of the bunch to begin with, plus dirty, plus old and given to them by Russia) would take pot shots at them sometimes and kill people inside. The flat sides just didn't deflect anything reliably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted January 14, 2002 A-10 cannon=Apache cannon in OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood 0 Posted January 14, 2002 The cannon on the A10 could definitely do with fixing...it's the whole raison d'etre of the bloody thing (basically a big gun with wings). 'bout 10 years ago, while on holiday, I saw a couple of A10s hitting training targets on a beach...we were some distance away but although the damage to the targets was difficult to assess, the noise was certainly impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobble 1 Posted January 14, 2002 I would imagine the damage viewable outside would be minimal.. but having that 6 inch slug bouncing around the inside of that tank like pac-man on crack would cause the crew much anguish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dangus @ Jan. 14 2002,23:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><Snip> The Avenger cannon on the A-10 for instance can kill a main battle tank, yet in the game they do not treat it like it can. Also the Vulcan can disable or even kill a main battle tank, but in the game fat chance of that happening. <Snip><span id='postcolor'> Actually, the Vulcan does a great job against MBTs in OFP, and shouldn't. It fires high-explosive rounds that are intended to damage thin-skinned aircraft and their engines with shrapnel, not tanks with half-a-meter equivalent RHA armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Fenix83 @ Jan. 14 2002,14:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why creator let us use the Rocket LAW more than 1 time. Why A-10 sucks so much against tank (fire rate too low, the GAU-8 AVENGER can fire 3'900 rounds a minute). Same for AH-64. <span id='postcolor'> the thing is it is only fires in 30 round bursts (enough to destroy a tank) as it slows the aircraft down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted January 14, 2002 No, it fires about 7-9 second bursts because otherwise the gun would simply melt! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Satchel 0 Posted January 14, 2002 Hmm, as i understand Pilots fire about 1- 1 1/2 second bursts on armored targets @3900RPM , putting about 65-97 projectiles down. The reason the GAU-8/A is very effective against Tanks is the PGU-14/B DU Penetrator slug that impacts on the upper hemisphere of the target (Turret roof, top chassis) where the armored vehicle has only little protection compared to other locations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaper 0 Posted January 14, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Damage Inc @ Jan. 14 2002,09:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's one big gun.<span id='postcolor'> Big is an understatement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted January 14, 2002 What is truly scary about that pictures is that the perspective will make the VW Bug seem larger than it really is in relation to the GAU-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KDF 0 Posted January 15, 2002 Its all very nice drooling over the big gun but on the modern battlefield the A-10 becomes one huge SAM magnet when it tries to get in close enough to use it..hence the trusty Maverick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benze 0 Posted January 15, 2002 That's why it was made to fly home with half a wing torn off and both hydraulic lines severed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SKULLS_Viper 0 Posted January 15, 2002 ALso the gun on the A-10 sounds kinda weak in the game.Have you ever heard the sound the gun makes on a F-14?Its 20mm is just 10mm smaller but it sounds way more wickeder then the 30mm in the game.To know what the real A-10 gun sounds like ill give you a hint the A-10 pilots call it "A fart from God" lol.In the game it sounds more like a human God lol.So work on that BIS.It kinda sounds like a girly gun not a monsterouse gun like it should be.Maybe if you played F-22 lighting the gun sounds pretty good so maybe just copy that sound.(At least). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted January 15, 2002 The one thing I hate in OFP is the fact that all vehicles have a default load of 500 rounds. The co-axial MG in any tank has thousands of rounds not just 500. OFP is realistic but it can definitely be improved. Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christophercles 0 Posted January 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Dangus @ Jan. 15 2002,00:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The 50 calibur weapon on the M113 is NOT a standard feature of M113s, usually they have an M-60 on top and that's it. Still, some did have the M2 up there, and the M2 is a powerful weapon. The M2 can shoot through the armor of a BMP, yet in the game it does NOTHING to the BMP. This needs to be fixed.<span id='postcolor'> While i agree with you on the fact that the m113 SHOULD be able to rip the sh*t out of the bmp (grrrr bmps.....), they actaully still DO have .50's on them. Thats an m113 in east timor, it still has a .50 on it, it might also have a .30 on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Gerschwarzenge 0 Posted January 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SKULLS_Viper @ Jan. 15 2002,03:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To know what the real A-10 gun sounds like ill give you a hint the A-10 pilots call it "A fart from God" lol.<span id='postcolor'> Here's a to a video clip of A-10 strafing. Listen to the sound. http://www.dm.af.mil/demoteam/images/AVI/straff.avi Here's a video of a bombing run just because it's funny to see that one of the four bombs doesn't explode. http://irobot.cact-sd.org/military/archive/movies/a10_011.mpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Scooby Posted January 15, 2002 Its just that BMP's front sector should be able to take any .50 rounds. Sides and rear cant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damage Inc 0 Posted January 15, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Jan. 15 2002,05:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The one thing I hate in OFP is the fact that all vehicles have a default load of 500 rounds. The co-axial MG in any tank has thousands of rounds not just 500. OFP is realistic but it can definitely be improved. Tyler<span id='postcolor'> It's actually 500 bursts, not 500 rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites