USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[Akira 0]

I imagine the same reason that the Palestinians are a little pissed about the Isreali wall.

I see no point in denying illegal aliens drivers licenses. That won't stop the influx across the border. All it will do will have a lot of people with no IDs on the streets, as well as a lot of unlicensed drivers on the road. Yeah. Sounds great.

[Balschoiw 0]

I say, let them have it !

Deport all illegal immigrants now !

I guess we can see the US drown in rubbish and with the lack of foreign food in 2 weeks

Seriously, illegal immigration for sure is a problem, but the US economy as any others welthy countries economy somehow relies on a certain percentage of illegals to keep them in business. Maybe that´s why there are no hardcore efforts to really fight the problem.

Besides that, illegal immigrants are "ghosts". They have no interest in committing hard crimes as that would expose them. They do their work, try to assimiliate as much as they can for just one purpose:

Not to get caught. Seen from that perspective they are the perfect immigrants.

just my 2 euro cent

[Sophion-Black 0]

well this might be a little harsh but its to the point and may make the Mexicans think twice about crossing the boarder...

Solution

I say shoot everyone who crosses the boarder illiegaly

Reason

We are at war

-The "closed" boarder between Mexico and the US makes it very easy for CovertOps to sneak in. If there is a group of people that is armed Shoot then counter attack INSIDE MEXICO.

Why do that?

The Mexican government is actually teaching their citizens to cross the boarder and get a stable life on the other side. This, by definition, is an act of war and should be treated in a clean, consice and swift counteroffincive. striking Mexico will not only grind the immigration to a halt but the territory gained will boost the economy and give us more money to spend after the war is over.

On a side note, the UN will be upset but the main thing that will get them to agree is that they meet on our turff, if we capture and hold the diplomats as prisoners of war due to threats against America. they will be forced to agree to our terms. Also, the biggist faunder for the spending for the UN is none other than... the US! you guess it, we hold ALL the cards on this one. why not try it?

[Akira 0]

well this might be a little harsh but its to the point and may make the Mexicans think twice about crossing the boarder...

Solution

I say shoot everyone who crosses the boarder illiegaly

Reason

We are at war

-The "closed" boarder between Mexico and the US makes it very easy for CovertOps to sneak in. If there is a group of people that is armed Shoot then counter attack INSIDE MEXICO.

Why do that?

The Mexican government is actually teaching their citizens to cross the boarder and get a stable life on the other side. This, by definition, is an act of war and should be treated in a clean, consice and swift counteroffincive. striking Mexico will not only grind the immigration to a halt but the territory gained will boost the economy and give us more money to spend after the war is over.

On a side note, the UN will be upset but the main thing that will get them to agree is that they meet on our turff, if we capture and hold the diplomats as prisoners of war due to threats against America. they will be forced to agree to our terms. Also, the biggist faunder for the spending for the UN is none other than... the US! you guess it, we hold ALL the cards on this one. why not try it?

You, sir, win the DUMBASS OF THE WEEK award.

And I'll happily take a PR for that.

[Sophion-Black 0]

Explain.

"Try my intellagince"

[Akira 0]

Explain.

"Try my intelligence"

No. No I don't think I will. There would be no point given the genius plan that you have put forth, I doubt you have the intelligence to understand why that is so idiotic.

Assuming that you are serious and really are stupid enough to suggest such a course.

[Acecombat 0]

LOL i think you were joking back there right sophian black?

I agree illegal immigrants mustnt be allowed but hey killing them thats just too much , catching them and deporting whatever happened to that? You know the thing we normally under sane circumstances do .

[Sophion-Black 0]

*sighs*

Deportation has been tried but its not working well enough. It paines me to say it but shooting unathurized personel crossing the boarder seems to be the only effective way to stop illiegal immigration. The cost of this ignorance is very high. the US economy is low and its not getting better if the money is going out to another country because some illiegal alien has promised to send money back to thier folks (Thats another problem with leagal immagrints, but it can't be stopped). Pluse, like i said who has definitive proof that some Al Queda Opritive hasn't crossed the boarder again (Yes again. That is how most of them came to America). We need to be more careful to threats like these.

Akira! I don't belive you got my point! EXPLAIN WHY IT IS SO DUMB! NOT LISTENING WOULD BE STUPID, MY MIND IS ALWAYS OPEN!

[Akira 0]

If I have to explain to you why shooting people for crossing the border is stupid, I refer you to my post above.

[Bordoy 0]

If you dont let anyone in, who's going to work in all your mcdonalds?

In the UK, the police 'patrolling' the border ay the channel tunnel have been ordered not to chase anyone even if the come of a back of a lorry. They should be hunted down like dogs, then put in the kennel. Or thrown out.

[EiZei 0]

Shooting people because they *might* affect the economy negatively? Riiiiight..

I got some more ideas, how about we put all those unproductive minorities to death camps (they have higher unemployment etc.), kill the elderly, euthanise the disadvantaged and invade countries that have natural resources that are needed.. oh wait.

[Sophion-Black 0]

All they have to do is cross at a checkpoint. Sneaking across takes it to another level. how do you know if they aren't violating the act that was passed in 1958 by the 797th Congress (for you not knowing what it is its the "Internal Security Act"). The most disturbing fact is that if we can't controll our security at the boarders how are we to secure our bases inside the boarder. Durring Veitnam, Charlie attack basses every day with RPGs. How are you certain that they might not have RPGs themselves. They could be sneaking in supplies to attack. We have changed our strategy, we are not planning for a major attack like we saw durring Vietnam (Tut offencive).

Also, just because my spelling is off... it doesn't change what I have learned.

...Your turn Akira.

[EiZei 0]

All they have to do is cross at a checkpoint. Sneaking across takes it to another level. how do you know if they aren't violating the act that was passed in 1958 by the 797th Congress (for you not knowing what it is its the "Internal Security Act").

Just because somebody passed a law gives unquestionable right to shoot unarmed civilians?

[Sophion-Black 0]

Shooting people because they *might* affect the economy negatively? Riiiiight..

I got some more ideas, how about we put all those unproductive minorities to death camps (they have higher unemployment etc.), kill the elderly, euthanise the disadvantaged and invade countries that have natural resources that are needed.. oh wait.

IM NOT HITLER!!!

sometimes the most extreem answers are the only ones you have left.

[Akira 0]

You haven't learned a damn thing as shown by your comically stupid idea for immigration control, and comparison to the US with Vietnam of the 1960s.

I think you have seen "Invasion USA" one too many freakin' times.

[Sophion-Black 0]

Just because somebody passed a law gives unquestionable right to shoot unarmed civilians?

Look, we can only "shoot first ask questions later". You have only a man running arcoss the boarder. you want to know more... they might have a gun. they might not use it to keep it hidden.

Besides, it is a gaurded boarder that is at war. We should act like it.

[Sophion-Black 0]

You haven't learned a damn thing as shown by your comically stupid idea for immigration control, and comparison to the US with Vietnam of the 1960s.

I think you have seen "Invasion USA" one too many freakin' times.

Trust me. I have learned a lot in 'Nam. like never trust a hooker, they might turn out to be NVA.

...I never heard of that movie untill just now.

[EiZei 0]

I think you have seen "Invasion USA" one too many freakin' times.

My bet is on Red dawn, didn't you notice those EVIL brown cubans gunning down high school students?

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Trust me. I have learned a lot in 'Nam. like never trust a hooker, they might turn out to be NVA.

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30 Nov. 1988 (16)

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Look, we can only "shoot first ask questions later". You have only a man running arcoss the boarder. you want to know more... they might have a gun. they might not use it to keep it hidden.

I really really really hope you do not live in florida. However the odds are against me considering the general nuts:sane people ratio there.

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Besides, it is a gaurded boarder that is at war. We should act like it.

No you are not.

[Hornet85 0]

Sophion-Black

wher you in Vietnam?

and so whit what unit? Army, Marines, SF, Seals?

[Sophion-Black 0]

Quote[/b] ]No you are not.

How can you say that when we have men and women in Iraq AND Afganistan?

Quote[/b] ]Trust me. I have learned a lot in 'Nam. like never trust a hooker, they might turn out to be NVA.

30 Nov. 1988 (16)

How can you be so sure that my father was not statoned in Plieku?

Quote[/b] ]I really really really hope you do not live in florida. However the odds are against me considering the general nuts:sane people ratio there.

again...

Quote[/b] ]sometimes the most extreem answers are the only ones you have left.

[EiZei 0]

Quote[/b] ]No you are not.

Quote[/b] ]Trust me. I have learned a lot in 'Nam. like never trust a hooker, they might turn out to be NVA.

I really really really hope you do not live in florida. However the odds are against me considering the general nuts:sane people ratio there.

again...

Quote[/b] ]sometimes the most extreem answers are the only ones you have left.

And how is this so extreem[sic] that it warrants crimes against humanity?

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How can you say that when we have men and women in Iraq AND Afganistan?

Last time I checked Iraq was quite a bit farther than mexico. Anyways, officially the US has not declared war on Iraq since it falls into the same bullshit police action category as vietnam.

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How can you be so sure that my father was not statoned in Plieku?

You are 16 and your father is telling you not to trust vietnamese hookers? Tsk.

[Sophion-Black 0]

Sophion-Black

wher you in Vietnam?

and so whit what unit? Army, Marines, SF, Seals?

My dad was drafted so i think he was Army. we can really ask him because he died of heart attack while playing basketball in 1991 at the age of 43. We only know that he was stationed in Plieku by his personal itenerary. He didn't talk about 'Nam either.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

Trust me. I have learned a lot in 'Nam. like never trust a hooker, they might turn out to be NVA.

Damn...the number of times I've made that mistake....

But here's where you went wrong:

Quote[/b] ]My dad learnt a lot in 'Nam

and your:

Quote[/b] ]I have learned a lot in 'Nam.

See the difference?

It's called "complete bullshit" and "the truth".

I can expand on this further if you wish, just pm me.

[Sophion-Black 0]

Quote[/b] ]You are 16 and your father is telling you not to trust vietnamese hookers? Tsk.

it said on his itenerary

"Stop looking for hookers, NVA now"

[Hornet85 0]

maybe ther is a new vietnam war that we dont know of and US SF is recruting 16 year old boys to do the fighting who knows