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Deportation has been tried but its not working well enough. It paines me to say it but shooting unathurized personel crossing the boarder seems to be the only effective way to stop illiegal immigration. The cost of this ignorance is very high. the US economy is low and its not getting better if the money is going out to another country because some illiegal alien has promised to send money back to thier folks (Thats another problem with leagal immagrints, but it can't be stopped). Pluse, like i said who has definitive proof that some Al Queda Opritive hasn't crossed the boarder again (Yes again. That is how most of them came to America). We need to be more careful to threats like these.

Akira! I don't belive you got my point! EXPLAIN WHY IT IS SO DUMB! NOT LISTENING WOULD BE STUPID, MY MIND IS ALWAYS OPEN!

shoot them? what are you a psychopath? besides that too would cost money, since illegal aliens come in by the thousands, it would take thousands of men w/ guns all expecting to be paid for doing this. there is a very simple and economical way of handling this. since they come for work, take away the jobs, how to do this? since we have overcrowded prisons, why not force all prisoner's to work all these little shit jobs for absolutly nothing? nothings cheaper than free labor after all. employers won't have to pay the prisoner's saleries or health care benifits they'll make a profit and no more illeagal migrant workers. and since were loosing manufacturing jobs to cheap over sea's labor we can at least reduce are trade deficiet w/ other countries and start exporting goods made in the U.S. lets face it, in todays world you can't make a decient living working in manufacturing, unless your dealing w/ precision machined parts, so theres no sense in complaining about it. companies get the cheapest labor they can get, migrant workers who come in illegally won't have a reason to come here anymore, and we'll reduce our trade deficiets and start exporting more than we import. its a win win deal. only catch is trying to convince the retards running this country that making prisoners work for nothing 6 hours a day is not anymore cruel than executing them or forcing them to live the rest of their live in a 9x8 cell w/ a guy named "Buba".

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Quote[/b] ]it said on his itenerary

Blabla, I must have missed the quotation marks...

Did surprise me though that all that forum guys kept the line with another single bean brained teenager praising his wonderful ideas of whatever... wink_o.gif

I guess a nam-vet speaks a different word.... rock.gif

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We could... but didn't we already think of that?

We have prisoners already working poor jobs, even taking orders on hotlines.

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maybe ther is a new vietnam war that we dont know of and US SF is recruting 16 year old boys to do the fighting who knows

... already in the Air Force, did you see that coming?

(oh... its the Aux though, but i do get scholarships to AF Academys)

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We could... but didn't we already think of that?

We have prisoners already working poor jobs, even taking orders on hotlines.

they might be doing hotlines and the chain gangs in the south, but thats about it as far as i know, keep in mind theirs millions of people in prison. so its not as if we'll have a shortage of workers. and because we have so many you could have them all work shifts of maybe 5 or 6 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week and still be very productive nothing cruel about that. and maybe even work out a little deal w/ companies, for every number of inmates they hire to work for nothing, they have to hire x number of employee's whom they have to pay saleries and health care to. so as to avoid possible increases in unemployment.

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Quote[/b] ]I have learned a lot in 'Nam.

I can expand on this further if you wish, just pm me. wink_o.gif

...(ok i bluffed on that part)

but i'm curious to see what you mean by "I can expand on this further"

*starts writing*

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We could... but didn't we already think of that?

We have prisoners already working poor jobs, even taking orders on hotlines.

they might be doing hotlines and the chain gangs in the south, but thats about it as far as i know, keep in mind theirs millions of people in prison. so its not as if we'll have a shortage of workers. and because we have so many you could have them all work shifts of maybe 5 or 6 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week and still be very productive nothing cruel about that. and maybe even work out a little deal w/ companies, for every number of inmates they hire to work for nothing, they have to hire x number of employee's whom they have to pay saleries and health care to. so as to avoid possible increases in unemployment.

well, i'm not sure (and correct me if i'm wrong) but i think that the decision to hire inmates is the companies idea not the goverments.

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Quote[/b] ]I have learned a lot in 'Nam.

I can expand on this further if you wish, just pm me. wink_o.gif

...(ok i bluffed on that part)

but i'm curious to see what you mean by "I can expand on this further"

*starts writing*

The difference between telling The truth and lieing out your ass.

I'm sure Vietnam veterans would be honoured a 16 year old kid is pretending to be one of them, leaching off the history they had to partake in, trying to get respect for something you never did. wink_o.gif

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I think I am talking for a lot of the soldiers, like myself now, when I say that you are dishonoring the men and women which fight all over the world.

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the Respect should go to my father, and trust me when i say it (hold up right hand):

From what i can get, Viet-vets have been put through a lot of shit, and the American public dihonoring them as they get back from hell was a very wrong. they indeed put their lives on the line. they were scared to death all the time. that is why they are portrayed as "crazy". You people should at least give respect to our men.

oh... back on topic... (PM is open DKM Jag)

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Quote[/b] ]Look, we can only "shoot first ask questions later". You have only a man running arcoss the boarder. you want to know more... they might have a gun. they might not use it to keep it hidden.

With your retarded rationale, we should shoot anybody, citizen or not, because hell...they just might have a gun. You don't know do you?

Quote[/b] ]I can expand on this further if you wish, just pm me. wink_o.gif

...(ok i bluffed on that part)

You didn't bluff...you lied out right, forgetting that it would be easy to check the information you yourself put in when registering, and that got busted. That makes you incredibly stupid as well as a liar.

Quote[/b] ]

... already in the Air Force, did you see that coming?

(oh... its the Aux though, but i do get scholarships to AF Academys)

I can only hope you get bounced out due to extreme stupidity, but I doubt it will happen.

Quote[/b] ]well, i'm not sure (and correct me if i'm wrong) but i think that the decision to hire inmates is the companies idea not the goverments.

A company can not just go hiring inmates. The government will have to approve the idea.

And my dad was at DaNang during the Tet that you claim to know so much about. And for him I will say:

"Shut the fuck up dumbass."

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I think I am talking for a lot of the soldiers, like myself now, when I say that you are dishonoring the men and women which fight all over the world.

HOW DARE YOU SPEAK SUCH LANGUAGE!!!

I AM A U.S. SOLDIER!!!

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You people should at least give respect to our men.

How stupid do you think people are? You're trying to make it look like we are dishonouring them? YOU were the one pretending to BE one of them. rock.gif

Respect should go to them, and if what you say is true, your father, not you. So why is it you feel you need to impersonate them?

Oh, and please THINK before you post.

Edit: I retract all of the above, you made my point for me. biggrin_o.gif

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your 16yr old ffs you nead to be 17 to join the us army and you nead to be 18 to go in to batle whit it

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Either you are fighting as a child soldier in Angola, Ruanda or Congo or you are one of the biggest assholes I have seen here so far.

You are a soldier ?

Keeps me laughing. It takes more than a claimed dad in nam to be a soldier...

You may have missed the point to just shut up. Do it now.

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your 16yr old ffs you nead to be 17 to join the us army and you nead to be 18 to go in to batle whit it
Quote[/b] ]... already in the Air Force, did you see that coming?

(oh... its the Aux though, but i do get scholarships to AF Academys)

make sure you read the bold part.

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yes but that do not make you a soldier that just tel me that you will get in to the AF academy

just have to say this to i have ben in the army for over a year now and now iam in a Ranger Recon squad

and i nead to tel you that you will never be a true soldier a true soldier dont write lies and shit like you have done here a true soldier do every thing he can to honor his land and the ppl he is helping.

And you are dishonoring all what a soldier stands for

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ok... don't believe a word i said, i guess i have fallen, failed and surrendered.

We have gone way off topic here, this is about USA Politics not, lets flame Sophion-Black.

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Closing for a 48hr cooling-down period.

Some of you better rethink your attitudes and what you have written.

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OK, the 48 hours is up.

Note: if things get out of hand again, the closure may just be permanent. Also, individual offenders will probably be looking at post restrictions or even perm-bans. With the hubbub of news regarding upcoming OFP releases, now probably isn't a good time to get yourself banned, yes? wink_o.gif

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Hoorah!

*comes skipping into thread*

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My (ex)military history TA, history department TA of the year winner, is an funny guy. He likes to wear, at times, humorous t-shirts that are political. The t-shirt he wore on the day of the final said "War is not the answer unless you are a socialist guerilla" and there was a picture of Che. Also, he wore a Che t-shirt that had Che wearing mickey mouse ears one day. He liked to point out that their are marxist/communist in the history department and he mess with them. For example, he proudly post his cold war warrior certificate where everybody in the history department can see it. He is former air force (late 70s) and very pro-american. Also, last semester, his target of "hate" was against the French (he calls them CESM). This semester his target was the Evil Empire, the Soviet Union. A student, russian, in my section got back at him and mocked him about his age. Lastly, his dissertation is about porn in the late 20th century.. tounge_o.gif Who said universities just has liberals in their teaching ranks. Then again, it is probably a very small % of non-liberals teaching at the university level.

For ex-military (enlisted before 1992):

http://www.dod.mil/news/Jan1999/n01211999_9901214.html

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Your history teaching assistant needs to read his history.

In the First World War the French were renowned for their élan in rushing to certain death in battle.

In the Second World War the French were remembered for surrendering but they were also renowned for their resistance.

They are also known for having The Second Best Empire in History, which doesnt come of eating cheese.

Anyway to misquote that simian cheese muncher Voltaire, 'I may agree with what you say, but i disagree to the death with your right to say it'.

Ever since Americans have started attacking the French for crude political reasons half the fun has been taken out of one of the most loved English passtimes. To mock the French for avoiding fighting ? Pah. The only truly honourable cause to mock the French is simply..well

..fact of the matter is they're French.

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Plus the bastards eat cheese, drink wine all day and every sauce is made of fat and butter...and the bastards STILL live longer than us! crazy_o.giftounge_o.gif

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