franze 196 Posted October 16, 2004 Hey all - it's been a while since I've posted here, and perhaps the conditions have changed since I last checked it out. I'd like to know what a lot of you think about Sci Fi addons - it doesn't really matter the type, fantasy, whatever, but I would like to know what you expect. For example, do you expect a laser cannon to show a laser beam? Or expect a walker machine to have a walking animation? Alternatively, if you don't like sci fi addons, add why you don't and for what reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 132 Posted October 16, 2004 i voted #1 because it´s cool to suprise people with sci-fi screenshots, always some of them will go "oohmfg, how did you do this" & "what addon is this" etc.  honestly i dont really use the sci fi stuff to build scenarios with ´em .. but sometimes it´s sure a lot of fun to get something different ingame  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ZG-BUZZARD 0 Posted October 16, 2004 Yep, I concur with Mr. Burns POV... this community is awesome in the way it can churn out any kind of addons, and OFP limitations are constantly being broken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shashman 0 Posted October 16, 2004 Get your pitch forks and torches ready cos I'm gonna say... Naaaaah not my cup of tea and I voted #4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ZG-BUZZARD 0 Posted October 16, 2004 How about some laser blasters instead? lol j/k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shalashaska 0 Posted October 16, 2004 I wouldnt mind seeing sci fi addons. I'd enjoy seeing planetside-themed addons..ones that situate away from aliens and moreso a futuristic battlefield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted October 16, 2004 i voted #1 because it´s cool to suprise people with sci-fi screenshots, always some of them will go "oohmfg, how did you do this" & "what addon is this" etc. honestly i dont really use the sci fi stuff to build scenarios with ´em .. but sometimes it´s sure a lot of fun to get something different ingame Kinda like the day I went on ofp.info and saw the USS Defiant in OFP. Not something you normally expect in the screenshots section. I wonder what happened to that model... oh well, ST is too hard to sim in OFP. No shields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franze 196 Posted October 16, 2004 So, generally theres about a 50 against and 50 for. That's a lot more for sci fi than there used to be! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 16, 2004 I got no problem with sci fi addons because technically metal gear solid was sci fi in a way, it introduced a fictional mech and put it in the modern world. Â Now, as long as we stick to normal convention of projectile weapons and what we know man is capable of churning out within the immediate future, I don't mind playing with it, but if its like what man could possibly church out like three hundred years down the road, thats when i start getting bothered. Â But I'm all for science fiction based off of what we can do right now as mankind but just finanicial complications won't permit. Â I like to explore what if we took the current technology we are capable of and put it in the field. Â That's what I and most people like seeing of course. Â Otherwise people wouldn't enjoy the OICW addon so much. Â Movies like this are Ghost in the Shell, excellent near future movie. Â I just don't like the far future. Â But I like it when i see a sci fi movie and at the end they say that the technology used in this movie is currently in development just not in the field, cuz then you be like ooooooh, dang, and you get on the net and start searching for the stuff. Â I'd like to see some futuristic weapons based off of real technology like using bullets n stuff, just futuristic look to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEDICUS 0 Posted October 16, 2004 Voted #1. I like this idea. Walking animations for Mechs etc would be great and burning some tanks with lasers, too  If there were some good "working" Mechs for example (i remember some screens here or on OFP.Info of some nice looking one), i'm sure that i would use them for the one or other mission. MfG MEDICUS  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted October 16, 2004 They are not ruining the game but are a waste of talent imo, i dont see much use for them in the game other than to post funny screens. Its hard enough to find missions for "normal" addons and i dont see any practical use for sci-fi material, sry. People build whatever they want or like though and users use what they want or like too, its all good anyway . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 16, 2004 You know, to make a sci fi mech addon really fit into ofp, its going to have to either come with a mod with new buildings, a new island, futuristic everything or be within the bounds of today so that you can still keep the modern era soldiers n stuff, but heres the reason i like sci fi within the bounds of modern technology. Â The reason I like it like that is, you can still keep your ofp soldiers, your ofp enemies, n stuff like that but say that this mech technology is new, therefore lazers n stuff won't be on it because we don't have the knowing of how to keep a laser operating in the field and maintained by soldier units at an affordable price. Â I'd be all for a mechanized suit for soldiers, but the gun that comes with it still shoots bullets, because thats possible within the bounds of modern weaponry, and then since its in the bounds of today you can still use todays enemy n stuff, but if you're going to get way down the road with lasers n stuff in the field, then its very possible that alot has changed along with warfare and you'd probably to effectively portray that would need new cars, vehicles, buildings, just to keep up with the times. Â One disappointement ive seen is, none of the meha that have come out for ofp have any type of camoflage to them and thats again out of bounds with reality, to create a war machine and its not camoflaged. Â So I'd like to see some very smart prototype experimental type stuff, but not much else. Franze you were onto something with those mini gears. It looked like a mechanized soldier suit, it just lacked the clankiness of a real working machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted October 16, 2004 They're awesome! They add a different perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commander-598 0 Posted October 16, 2004 You never specififed a size for "bullets" so I figured 180mm cannons were still fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franze 196 Posted October 16, 2004 BoweryBaker - the "mini gears" were just a shot in the dark, not really representative of anything. I made them since their larger, non-animated brethen were too simple for most people. The problem of having a max speed of 24kmh on a soldier class is something I don't know how to get around, so for all intents and purposes, the mini gears were just for laughs. I put up this poll because I've got quite a few addons that I'd like to share, but I have no desire to attract rude comments if the community doesn't want to see them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da12thMonkey 1943 Posted October 16, 2004 I generally don't bother downloading sci-fi addons unless they're very good looking addons; otherwise they don't really interest me; I rarely use the ones I do have. However I have no problem with people making them, addonmakers can make whatever the hell they like (though I prefer that it's somthing new to OFP or noticibly different to someone else's version of it in terms of gameplay). It's their hobby and it's their time that they spend making addons, they shouldn't care if I'm interested in the final product or not because all decisions about the addon are ultimately up to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 16, 2004 Franze what addons do you have that you could release? Â I'd like a sci fi looking enemy military unit bent on world domination that looks something like this. Â Maybe they have their own country based on one of these fictional islands we have out now, and they be coming through in full force. Â Maybe slightly based off of an existing addon, you could say that they're communists so that people could use any russian addon for their vehicles n stuff but it'd be like, the future of communism. Â That'd be dope! Â Â Â Just a really intimidating army. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ZG-BUZZARD 0 Posted October 17, 2004 Hey Bowery, check theses out! These have been around quite some time, they're the "Mini-Gears", unit-class versions of Gears from the "Heavy Gear" mech-game.. the Strider in the back is a Naga, more realistically represented in terms of size (since most gears themselves were much taller than these unit-sized ones). Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franze 196 Posted October 17, 2004 Most of the new stuff I have is the same Heavy Gear vehicles, the APC classed gears and such. I've also got some others, like a AH-64D (non sci-fi, of course), and some new mini gears. Problem is, not all of them have super duper incredible texture work, so I'm not so sure about putting them out like that. I released two gear packs, but never mentioned them on this forum because, admittedly, I didn't want to have to cope with the hypocritical audience. It was probably for the best because at that time, most people wanted real addons, and not reality based addons. I just wanted to see if the conditions had changed in the past few months. EDIT: Just saw Buzzard's post - the little mini gears definately need a different animation set than the default BIS stuff! And just to nitpick, it's a Naga in the background, not a Nova. Â EDIT2: BTW, if you want to see something real funny, put the mini gears on a bike and drive it around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 17, 2004 I just think that, the mini gears should tie into the flashpoint world somehow. Â Like, either a russian camo with a red star on it somewhere, maybe some identification numbers too for a realistic look? Â Maybe some American exo suits too? Â That'd be cool, like war in the future, but the only advancements made would be in the uhh infantry realm, so we'd still have like regular tanks n junk. Â It's just that, mini gears wouldn't look right in a hummer. Â I always keep that image in my mind of Gundams parachuting down from 08th MS team, that cartoon. Â I keep thinking, what if we used robot shells to go into combat with? Â PhilCommando was able to make a walking robot that still ricocheted and exploded upon rpg hit like a machine, but walked like a man. Â That's when I thought how close we might be to something like that, but if none of the addon makers want to do it, im not going to cry about it, but, since this is my chance I just thought I'd drop the idea upon you. Â You like robots, war, so I thought you might like it. I'm saying though, I honestly can't think up any scenario for this type of thing, but if the quality of textures, sounds, and effects is high on it, I'm sure I will dream up something in a flash. I'm most motivated when I get a really high quality addon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franze 196 Posted October 17, 2004 I've considered investing something like a more crude, modern principled walker machine (and I guess I already have - got the model sitting around somewhere), but since I've already invested so much into this other stuff, it seems like a waste to just let it sit around. But, I tell you what. Give me, maybe 14 days, and I'll try to come up with something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 17, 2004 lol. It'd be cool if somebody stole it and the USA had to get it back. lol. Make it really dangerous though. Maybe it can fire a nuke off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jankyballs 0 Posted October 17, 2004 Ide like to see, hmm, forget the name of the game their from, Tehy wear all black and they wear gasmasks and stuff, anyway, if you know what im talking about ide like to see them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franze 196 Posted October 17, 2004 I don't know if I'd go that far... But I would make it a pretty hefty threat to MBTs at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoweryBaker 0 Posted October 17, 2004 Is the threat to tanks a mech, or is it a ....I don't know. They say that America is moving to a lighter faster type of military because of the newer threat. Maybe you should make a futuristic infantry unit, or some futuristic guns. Wouldn't that be fun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites