Crook 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Alright fellas, I've done some extensive searching to find ways for administrators to protect themselves against Speed Hacks, Aimbots, and the most feared "OFP Super Cheat". Though I haven't come up with a way to find out who exactly on a server is cheating here are things to look for. Speed Hacks are easily detected not by the game itself but by the server administrator. If you notice a player moving up the field faster than what you think one should be able to move. Simply press "p" and watch how the time moves.. If a speed hack is being used it will speed up the time on the map. The map will end before it is supposed to. For example, if a player uses his speed hack the whole 30 minute game, the actual time that passes will be from 5 - 10 minutes. If you suspect a player of cheating don't automatically jump to conclusions, wait and see how quickly the map ends... If he is the only player you suspect of cheating, kick him. He can find a different server to play on. Wall Hacks.. That is a little more difficult. Some players may edit .pbo files to make some buildings semi-transparent or completely transparent. Watch for modified files (although not all modified files are cheats). If you have some time, find a good place to camp (inside a building or something). If he comes in after you and there was no way he saw you go in... What else could it be... Aimbots... This is a conjunction of file editing and outside programs (well for Operation Flashpoint at least). The player will edit camo to a certain color and have the outside program track it. Look for impossible reaction times... The Aimbot will usually kill you the instant you step out from behind an object. Sometimes a player can be waiting for you so don't automatically think he is cheating. Aimbot users will usually have an extremely high kill count and close to no deaths.. AIMBOTS DO NOT GIVE THE CHEAT USER THE TIME TO REACT AND NEITHER THE VICTIM, IT HAPPENS THAT INSTANT YOU COME INTO HIS VIEW, NO WAITING NO NOTHING, JUST DEATH. The OFP Super Cheat is the easiest to detect and combat. I have found that it is not a program at all but it is just a bunch of file editing. Basically the Cheater is running a different map than what you are running and everyone else for that matter. You will notice odd things happening in the maps you play. Things that never happend before. For example, boats falling from the sky, buildings disappearing, bombs, everyone dying, a player running around with god mode, and the one that makes me laugh... When the choose a player, send him off the island in the middle of the ocean in a boat with no fuel ROFLMAO. The easiest way to combat this is simply change maps. Play a different map and the cheater's cheats will be useless.. Be aware of players will extended Player IDs but don't label them as soon as they connect. There are a number of reasons for an extended Player ID. Just be watchful. Cheaters usually don't say anything when you are asking who is cheating... Look for the quiet ones and watch them... Just because a player is good doesn't mean he is cheating. Just assume he is a legit player until something happens that proves it with no doubt. I am still finding more cheats, and I will continue to release information about them, but if you are not part of the BIS Staff, I will not give you details.. I will tell you what you need to know about them but if you ask me to give you information and how to do it yourself, I will not reply... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crook 0 Posted July 19, 2004 To BIS. I have all these cheats that are mentioned and am willing to send them all to you. Just let me know if you would like my help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norris 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Interesting, very interesting! Aimbots... This is a conjunction of file editing and outside programs (well for Operation Flashpoint at least). The player will edit camo to a certain color and have the outside program track it. Look for impossible reaction times... The Aimbot will usually kill you the split second you step out from behind an object. Sometimes a player can be waiting for you so don't automatically think he is cheating. Aimbot users will usually have an extremely high kill count and close to no deaths.. Personally I suspect many CTF players use this. Combine the aimbot with G36 (which I personally despise) and you have a nightmare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crook 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Yeah, but it is easier to call someone a cheater rather than say nice shot.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korax 4 Posted July 19, 2004 ...If a speed hack is being used it will speed up the time on the map. The map will end before it is supposed to. For example, if a player uses his speed hack the whole 30 minute game, the actual time that passes will be from 5 - 10 minutes. Yes... But this can be counter-acted with a script which simply checks the servers mission time and compares it to each of the clients mission time, me and a friend wrote a script like that a while ago but didnt tell anybody about it or use it due to sheer lazyness. ...If he comes in after you and there was no way he saw you go in... What else could it be... I hate this. When after you kill somebody they say "Omg there was no way u could have seen me there! haxor!" Its always total BS. There are many ways to spot somebody going into or being in a building, such as 3rd person or the command view, and chances are that SOMEBODY saw him go in that building in the first place because OFP is a game of patience and just because someone isnt shooting at you, it doesnt mean they arent watching you. As for the aimbot.. I didnt know that there were such programs to edit the model colour and then track it instantly ingame... But I've played many maps with g36's and usually have a split-second reaction time, all because you dont need to aim properly, just track infront of the guy and fire 2-3 shots and he will die from even a foot-wound, if youve played ofp long enough youll know how to use a g36 properly and not have to go into iron-sight mode. The OFP "super-cheat" eh.. I've seen people use it and it does get bloody annoying, the best way to counter-act it is to just kick the fool  As long as there is scripting in ofp, there will be the "super-cheat", and thats that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crook 0 Posted July 19, 2004 I hate this. When after you kill somebody they say "Omg there was no way u could have seen me there! haxor!"Its always total BS. There are many ways to spot somebody going into or being in a building, such as 3rd person or the command view, and chances are that SOMEBODY saw him go in that building in the first place because OFP is a game of patience and just because someone isnt shooting at you, it doesnt mean they arent watching you. As for the aimbot.. I didnt know that there were such programs to edit the model colour and then track it instantly ingame... But I've played many maps with g36's and usually have a split-second reaction time, all because you dont need to aim properly, just track infront of the guy and fire 2-3 shots and he will die from even a foot-wound, if youve played ofp long enough youll know how to use a g36 properly and not have to go into iron-sight mode. The OFP "super-cheat" eh.. I've seen people use it and it does get bloody annoying, the best way to counter-act it is to just kick the fool  As long as there is scripting in ofp, there will be the "super-cheat", and thats that. Well, when i say there is no way... I mean make completely sure there is no way he could have saw you... Wait for him to kill someone on the other side of the map, far away and out of your view. As for the aim bot, I wasn't specific enough... The Aimbot will kill you the instant you come into view, no reaction time. I retract that statement. The super cheat, that was a way to combat it if you have no idea who is using it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Aimbots... This is a conjunction of file editing and outside programs (well for Operation Flashpoint at least). The player will edit camo to a certain color and have the outside program track it. Look for impossible reaction times... The Aimbot will usually kill you the split second you step out from behind an object. Sometimes a player can be waiting for you so don't automatically think he is cheating. Aimbot users will usually have an extremely high kill count and close to no deaths.. I don't even want to go into how much bullshit that is, all posting retarded shit like this does is open the door to cheat accusations. edit: nm you retracted it, just before i posted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crook 0 Posted July 19, 2004 Gaz you mofo. I edited the post as well.. No more confusion right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted July 19, 2004 If you have any cheats or information on how they work and how they can be prevented, email them to Placebo. I emailed him about the "super cheat" and explained how it was created. I dont know if he already knew or if he got the email but... Send cheats and cheat information to him and lets hope he doesnt take advantage of it    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Gaz you mofo.I edited the post as well.. No more confusion right? Np's i still love you Crook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NKVD 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Quote[/b] ]I hate this. When after you kill somebody they say "Omg there was no way u could have seen me there! haxor!" Its always total BS. There are many ways to spot somebody going into or being in a building, such as 3rd person or the command view, and chances are that SOMEBODY saw him go in that building in the first place because OFP is a game of patience and just because someone isnt shooting at you, it doesnt mean they arent watching you. I agree..sometimes it's just luck..you get to see people in positions and kill them one after another..or if you camp really good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norris 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Yeah, but it is easier to call someone a cheater rather than say nice shot.... There's a difference between a nice shot and killing someone the same millisecond he appears from behind a building with a burst of G36 (god, I really really hate ppl who use that stupid gun). Even if they don't really cheat, it's totally stupid anyway. That's why I don't play CTF with such weirdos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Shoe box size maps are a battle of frames per second not skill, I actually agree with the taliban supporting one on this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sicilian 0 Posted July 20, 2004 The OFP Super Cheat is the easiest to detect and combat. I have found that it is not a program at all but it is just a bunch of file editing. Basically the Cheater is running a different map than what you are running and everyone else for that matter. You will notice odd things happening in the maps you play. Things that never happend before. For example, boats falling from the sky, buildings disappearing, bombs, everyone dying, a player running around with god mode, and the one that makes me laugh... When the choose a player, send him off the island in the middle of the ocean in a boat with no fuel ROFLMAO. The easiest way to combat this is simply change maps. Play a different map and the cheater's cheats will be useless.. That's only right for OFP versions smaller than 1.96! Since 1.96 you cannot connect with a different map on any server at all! The so called "Super Cheat" is realized over modified Addons! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RN Malboeuf 12 Posted July 20, 2004 this is old and most of the cheats and detections Crook posted are other out dated or WRONG 1st of all there are about 5 types of Speed hacks going all the way back to the origonal HL Speed hack that worked with almost every game out there, Some Speed hacks wont cause time Displacements were some will, or some will make the Ping higher (HL does this) and others will cause the game to end for each player differently (in this one you can hear bullets warp slowly and repeatedly in game) also BIS has been handed these cheats many times over in the last three years, I gave BIS the 1st Speed Hack almost three years ago please keep up with the times why do we have all these "new ppl playing" that act like this is all new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEDICUS 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Wall Hacks.. That is a little more difficult. Some players may edit .pbo files to make some buildings semi-transparent or completely transparent. Watch for modified files (although not all modified files are cheats). Hmm, i personaly have (on most servers) modified files and it's really annoying to get kicked cause of that. I only use FatWombats HighRest-Textures and Llaumax ... but most Server-Admins start jelling "CHEATER" as soon as they see modified files  Personally I suspect many CTF players use this. Combine the aimbot with G36 (which I personally despise) and you have a nightmare. I think i'm just to slow for CTF  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Migebuff 0 Posted July 20, 2004 Quote[/b] ]and the one that makes me laugh... When the choose a player, send him off the island in the middle of the ocean in a boat with no fuel ROFLMAO Sounds interesting....because this is absolutely impossible..... Moveindriver and setfuel are local commands, they will only work on the cheaters PC. The cheater can create the boat because createvehicle is global, but he isnt able to move you in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hitman 10 Posted July 20, 2004 Shoe box size maps are a battle of frames per second not skill, I actually agree with the taliban supporting one on this one  No way, I think I have the worst computer in the OFP community and Ill still beat you Gaz Very nice information Crook, there's something here I didn't know yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuNtA 0 Posted July 20, 2004 the most probable way for the Super cheats to happen are official addons that have been altered to have the console scripts or eventHandler scripts execed from them. I cant see any logical way to stop this, apart form the server using an init which pre-defines all the gloal varibles used and has a loop script that keeps on predefining them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sicilian 0 Posted July 21, 2004 the most probable way for the Super cheats to happen are official addons that have been altered to have the console scripts or eventHandler scripts execed from them. I cant see any logical way to stop this, apart form the server using an init which pre-defines all the gloal varibles used and has a loop script that keeps on predefining them First step of prevention and breaking a big hole in this is to make the exe verifyable! Don't waste time on to detailed things if all depends on easier things! Two ways realizing this could be to use 1. enhanced code encryption or 2. to set for example a fixed handle on it to verify the BI exe is started. The exe could sent it's handle together with it's own checksum to the server which will verify. This information should be randomly encrypted so noone can trigger out this info. There are ways doing this! But dunno if its practically usable for OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-)a)( 0 Posted July 22, 2004 Quote[/b] ]and the one that makes me laugh... When the choose a player, send him off the island in the middle of the ocean in a boat with no fuel ROFLMAO Sounds interesting....because this is absolutely impossible..... Moveindriver and setfuel are local commands, they will only work on the cheaters PC. The cheater can create the boat because createvehicle is global, but he isnt able to move you in. It isn't impossible, believe me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted July 22, 2004 I think you'll find there are plenty of existing cheat discussion threads: WARNING *OFP SUPERCHEAT* Cheaters forcing admins to new levels... Cheat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
