NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted March 8, 2004 hexing is actualy pretty simple and veyr very useful Hmm.i havent done it in a while,So i cant remember the fun,But I damn sure can remember the head aches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blink Dog 0 Posted March 8, 2004 Hex editing is great if the texture you are fitting on works with the model. Doing something in O2 should only be done if you really have to change something or do something with a texture like change the number of times it occurs on a face. But it has been my general experience that most addon makers will ask to use work that has been done or started by anyone else. Most people will not steal work, they just want something that works and need it for their particular mod or project. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted March 9, 2004 Ahh hex editing.....had to use that recently, cant remember why......o2 can be used to quickly change textures as well, you just go into face properties and change the path....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted March 9, 2004 yes but if you have many textures then you have to select section by section and rename, with hex is done with one go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted March 9, 2004 oh no, you select by texture, then swap that texture...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted March 9, 2004 oh no, you select by texture, then swap that texture...... yes thats what i mean, imagine u have 500 textures... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted March 9, 2004 It's more Been There and Done that for me: Last few weeks/months i have been focused on the Game and it's security and files and the best thing from that is: I found many new things ( for pbo's and more ) And currently I am working on the ODOL and MLOD file type ( my last file type ) wich I got working almost fully ( I can't tell much about this because it will make BIS ban me or anny other mods ) But the only thing: I can crack almost any file types in OFP now and the ODOL file's are coming along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmgarcangel 0 Posted March 10, 2004 hey guys hehe P3dedit tool, I love it, its a great tool (don't ask I ain't giving it out) but hell, if it was released then whats the point of protecting the addons from the general community hey? Mod makers use it to their advantage to see how certian things are done with addons created by BIS or sometimes we use it for other useful things. But just imagine guys, if we released it, how many of you guys would use it to peak into others addons and edit them without their permission hmm?? ~Bmgarcangel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNIPER_SKULL 0 Posted March 10, 2004 its good to see how the models look BUT not for the LOD's getting it to MLOD fucks the LOD's up or for a wepon moves it or so.. what ppl say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted March 10, 2004 Hmm Some one dident like it that I posted this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmgarcangel 0 Posted March 11, 2004 First off release of this tool to the regular peasants of OFP Â Â will be the utter end of the world for us Thats why only certian people contain it, one such person being me But I really dont use it a ton though. Â I mean seriously, binarized and this tool, converting to ODOL I think its called, don't they both do the same thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usmcrp 0 Posted March 11, 2004 LOL wow if I had known this was going to create mass carnage I would not have posted this. I did however achieve my goal thanks to so good friends out there. Semper Fi Gunney Rod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SNIPER_SKULL 0 Posted March 11, 2004 Quote[/b] ]First off release of this tool to the regular peasants of OFP will be the utter end of the world for us yeah what im getting at Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted March 11, 2004 But there still may be a way to compress the ODOL so that P3dEdit can not open the model.If this is true is the any future for this tool? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmgarcangel 0 Posted March 12, 2004 well....yes and no. yes if someone can make it so that they can decode it still but hell, addon might be screwed by then no if no one cares to make another tool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trenchfeet 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Quote[/b] ]hey guyshehe P3dedit tool, I love it, its a great tool (don't ask I ain't giving it out) but hell, if it was released then whats the point of protecting the addons from the general community hey?  Mod makers use it to their advantage to see how certian things are done with addons created by BIS or sometimes we use it for other useful things.  But just imagine guys, if we released it, how many of you guys would use it to peak into others addons and edit them without their permission hmm?? So is this a comparison like “its all right for the US to have nuclear W’s but no one else can† ***hehe bad point i know  Or is it, We made it and wrote it so ya's can all go get  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Well i for one am not a "peasant" of the modding community,and i wouldnt steal others work, yet I dont have the tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Quote[/b] ]First off release of this tool to the regular peasants of OFP will be the utter end of the world for us It'll certainly be an end to the P3Dedit monopoly. Besides, I seriously doubt that the "regular peasants" will have the ability to use it anyway . Quote[/b] ]So is this a comparison like “its all right for the US to have nuclear W’s but no one else can†Yep. "The rest of the community is too stupid, only we are smart enough to use this tool." It's a pretty accurate comparison, considering that the US was the first country to build a nuclear weapon. And as a side thought, why does bmgarcangel have P3Dedit while Trenchfeet doesn't ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Blah Im still telling it: I have the way to make the ODOL encrypted so nothing can open it unless you have my program ( I can do it with a PBO to ) But the problem is: If I am gonna do this i will get the insults: That moron is selffish and wont share his addons with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Yep you will....actually, i dont think anyone actually WANTS the program....we all want the models.....so if SOMEBODY would just go thru all the BIS models, unencrypt them, and whack them on a server, we could forget the whole tool thing....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Quote[/b] ]so if SOMEBODY would just go thru all the BIS models, unencrypt them, and whack them on a server, we could forget the whole tool thing I think someone with P3Dedit should do this ASAP (Please ). People like me aren't interested in stealing other peoples' work, we just want access to unencrypted .p3d files of the BI models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted March 12, 2004 Well I am planning to release a 02 n00b kit ( no offence ) But I need to PM marek about this ( they are his and the other BIS people their models ) So I am gonna sk if I may crack up some files and release them in MLOD format. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NZXSHADOWS 0 Posted March 12, 2004 I think that BIS might give out some type of model pack.But its only a guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waffendennis 0 Posted March 12, 2004 I think that BIS might give out some type of model pack.But its only a guess. But I gues some people havent got enough about that pack so they want more and more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drill Sergeant 0 Posted March 13, 2004 Seems to me this tool is almost like a drug. First the high and weatlhy start snorten it, then soon everybod's doing it. The miniute this "KracK" (P3dedit), hits the streets, IF it  EVER does, working in OFP 1 as far as addons go is gona be prety hard. First it'll be little things, then watch it grow to be a huge monstor which will feed upon our models. Mods are main stream and if they take something they usealy give credit and if not there hung by the public. If the tools becomes mainsteem, I can just envision the terrible addons, no amout of "good" addons can outdo the "Bad" ones. I'm shure BIS would apprecaite a set of animated whores being made outa there models. Along with what ever subverse and evile thing's will spawn. Then after they get bored with the BIS models, oooooooh let's see if we can hack up and merge so and so's work.  Then a bit later after this mutaint model has been pased between freinds, something like this will happen: "Hay man, great gun, you should release it man!" Then the other person says, "Ah cool I will, I put alota work into this.". Then is comes out as MP40 and M1928 updated!. And we get some funkey looking crap which the orrigonal authors are not credited for. You people are pushing me to the point of writeing in actical on why this tool should not be made for main streem use. (I use spell check when I write articals.) AS FOR THE BIS MODELS. Let BIS release them. Even if you get permission and make the things avalable; how'd you like responsibilty for giveing someone a BIS model which they toaly demolished, and it was then featured in some way represnting OFP as a whole.  Moderation, rember once OFP2 comes out, the addons with some tweaks will still work in OFP2. We don't want to carry over this problem of people being able to hack up models into OFP2 or were screwed. Botem line, if it's for the beter of OFP1 do it. If not, don't do it.  I'll go burn my soap box now. *edited* Poseted in a hurry be back later to check it over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites