Patriot launcher in progress

[TeRp 1]

looks awesome Jag.

Hopefully you release it for OFP, too!

[sniperuk02 0]

Nice one jag, your getting better at models

[DKM Jaguar 0]

looks awesome Jag.

Hopefully you release it for OFP, too!

It's only for OFP

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

Wasn't RKSL working on a Patriot?

I really miss a AA system which is based on these kinds of systems (surface-to-air missile system)

Picture of how the system works (PDF)

Info about MIM-104 Patriot (Wikipedia.org)

I made the modesl for someone last year but i'm damned if i can remeber who it was now  ...but the MOD Team vanished about Jan this year.

And yes I've got the rapier working...just need to finish the scripting...if anyone fancies helping out i'd appreciate it!

RKSL Rapier Pics

And staying on the topic - Jag that looks fantastic mate!  Just remeber to make sure it cant hit anything  

...are you making the control and Fire Control Radar units too?

PS: ...yes my site is back up again...if a little bit sparse atm.

[miles teg 1]

WOW!!! Jaguar that is amazing! My mod was going to ask the Malvinas mod to borrow their launcher models for those ground launched Surface to Surface missiles they got and convert those into a crude patriot launcher. But if you would allow us to convert your model, we could certainly make good use of yours for our IDF forces. We tried asking other mods if they would let us use their HAWK SAM models, but no luck and we can't find an addon maker to help us making those. So right now our IDF forces are just protected by Stinger missiles and a 20mm gattling gun mounted on the Machbet (Vulcan) AA sytem. and of coarse the IAF.

Thats all good...but not against a determined low flying Egyptian squadron of F-16's with decoy fighter bombers flying at a higher altitude.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Tigershark_BAS 0]

Texture work looks great...as per usual Jag. Nice work!

[Gedis 0]

hm... realy awesome looking!

west will have their anti aircraft and anti missile hunter system, but what will be with east?

maybe someone planed to make S-300?

question, does U.S. and NATO doesn't have better anti aircraft and missile systems than Patriot?

because S-300 would be at least 2 times better... then this is not counter part for Patriont

P.S. found something better for U.S. THAAD, this looks like an counter part of S-300, i wounder does this system will be better than russian at the first time of such weapons...

[Messiah 2]

the THAAD looks like a modified HEMMT truck - kinda cool

[-HUNTER- 1]

full pack with support vehicles so also the radar?    cuz a real working radar unit would be REALLY handy, especially with a long range radar system you could be warned by radio for incoming aircraft!  

I didnt think about the mcar stuff when I posted teh other post. But the sollution is simple really, 1 thats static and 1 in "transport mode" connected to tractor.

dude you make l337 addons!!  

edit

 

http://www.afsouth.nato.int/operati....G_2.JPG

 

[DKM Jaguar 0]

Piccy

It's a shame the other makers stopped in '03...

I just realised I've really hi-jacked their thread too.

[Raptor 10]

amazing textures Jaguar.

i look forward to it.

btw. you have a patriot work in progress, too

so the theard name is ok, isn't it?

Raptor

[Flecktarn 0]

It's great looking patriot but I think that OFP have to small islands for this kind of protection this sweat baby can detect

''UFO'' miles away.

But anyway you are the man!

[-HUNTER- 1]

It's great looking patriot but I think that OFP have to small islands for this kind of protection this sweat baby can detect

''UFO'' miles away.

But anyway you are the man!

yeah but if you have a small island you could set up fighters distance away, and then when they come into range of the radarsystem they are passed on to you via teh radio! You could have a person in your squad sitting in the radarvehicle! you then give permission to fire on the certain target and the patriot is fired. So you would have real time early warning so to speak! Which would be really nice to have in ofp!

maybee somebody has something like a scud rocket piloted by AI so not the launched one from scud launcher but like a drone aircraft... For missions involving nice cutscenes and mission scenes like the scud attacks in the Gulf war. Also nice to test and prove that the system (radar and patriot launcher(s) works ok!

[VXR 9]

http://www.afsouth.nato.int/operati....G_2.JPG

 

thats a Dutch one.. Don't know if there is any difference in the Patriot trailer.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

question, does U.S. and NATO doesn't have better anti aircraft and missile systems than Patriot?

The Patriot system is actually terrible. It is very poor in the anti-missile defence role.

1991/PAC-2

Quote[/b] ]The U.S. Army claimed an initial success rate of 80% in Saudi Arabia and 50% in Israel. Those claims were eventually scaled back to 70 and 40 percent.

On April 7, 1992 Theodore Postol of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Reuven Pedatzur of Tel Aviv University testified before a House Committee stating that, according to their independent analyses, the Patriot system had a success rate of below ten percent, and perhaps even a zero success rate.

Quote[/b] ]On February 25, 1991 an Iraqi Scud hit the barracks in Dharan, Saudi Arabia, on killing 28 soldiers from the US Army's 14th Quartermaster Detachment.

A government investigation revealed that the failed intercept at Dharan had been caused by a software error in the system's clock. The Patriot missile battery at Dharan had been in operation for 100 hours, after which time the clock had drifted by one third of a second, equivalent to a position error of 600 meters. The radar system detected the Scud and predicted where to look for it next, but because of the time error, looked in the wrong part of the sky and found no missile. With no missile, the initial detection was assumed to be a false alarm and the missile was removed from the system. The Israelis had identified the problem and informed the US Army and the Patriot Project Office (the software manufacturer) on February 11, 1991. The Israelis recommended rebooting the Patriot system's computers as a workaround; however, Army officials did not understand how often they needed to reboot the system. The manufacturer supplied updated software to the Army on February 16. The updated software arrived the day after the Scud struck the Army barracks.

And it doesn't do much better in the Anti-Aircraft role either.

So why did I choose to make it? I don't think that because an item is poor in real life it should be forgotten, and most addons are peoples' perceptions of UBER american kit, which just is not true.

ADATS is a far more effective system in terms of accuracy, it costs something like $30,000 (or $300,000) per missile which is pricey but far more cost effective.

Even HAWK has scored hits against certain types of missile, which is why this project is so low priority (probably out at LEAST till Armed Assault), it's almost usless as anything other than screenshot material. The real interest for me is in the HEMTT.

[FerretFangs 0]

If anyone has taken time to look at the stats of the conflict in Iraq, one would see that the PAC3 is most certainly an effective SAM system.

Compared to ANY other nations SAM system, the Patriot has actually been used in combat, and has scored hits. In the opening of Iraqi Freedom, the PAC3 successfully intercepted a dozen or so super sonic tactical missiles. Thats the facts.

You can talk shit when theres something to compare it to. So far the only SAM that's been used in combat are the Soviet/Eastern Block weapons fired at US/Coalition/NATO aircraft, and due to superior tactics and technology, very few of them have actually brought down their target.

Quote[/b] ]PATRIOT battalions with PAC-3 fire units were employed in Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) against TBMs. In OIF, PAC-3 interceptors were ripple-fired against ballistic missile threats, a user requirement that was not demonstrated during operational testing. This eliminated the need for a follow-on test to demonstrate this capability. All PATRIOT engagements were conducted in a complex operational environment. There were three instances of erroneous engagements between PATRIOT batteries and friendly aircraft. System performance against TBMs appears to have been highly effective and consistent with expectations documented in DOT&E’s beyond low-rate initial production report submitted to Congress in October 2002. PATRIOT performance during OIF is detailed in the classified FY03 BMDS annual report.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/patriot-ac-3.htm

Grow up and make the addon or don't. But spare us the slagging.

It's boring already.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

If you did some more "research" you would see that all the screenshots so far posted are of the PAC-2 and NOT the PAC-3.

Do not tell me that I can have no opinion on the focus of an addon I am making, especially when it is valid, unlike your last remarks. I suspect you of being one of those taking any comment other than 'America - fuck yeah' to be a personal attack, so I'll not even bother trying to have a reasonable debate over the sucess and failure of the Patriot system, as it is no doubt beyond you.

Also no doubt from you "research" you don't know the system underwent a MAJOR overhaul becuase of it's performance in 1991 (the time I was citing) so to say that it's perfect and we must all say so is just complete nonsence.

And slagging? Who did I slag? Did I hurt the Patriot's feelings?

I do appologise to it, inanimate objects are so easy to offend.

Oh, and do me a favour and don't download it.

Quote[/b] ]Compared to ANY other nations SAM system, the Patriot has actually been used in combat, and has scored hits.

OK so Seacat, Rapier and stinger missiles are all fictious?

The Stinger was used in the falklands (know what that is?) for the first and only time by the SAS and scored a hit, that's 100% accuracy.

Rapiers set up on the hills overlooking the British landing sites on the islands engaged many Argentine Aircraft, as did the ships own onboard missile systems.

This is one war used as an example but already 3 examples of SAMs in use, do you need any more?

[JdB 151]

So far the only SAM that's been used in combat are the Soviet/Eastern Block weapons fired at US/Coalition/NATO aircraft, and due to superior tactics and technology, very few of them have actually brought down their target.

The North Vietnamese shot down loads of American aircraft during the conflict in South East Asia with SAM's

[FerretFangs 0]

Well, since we're discussing the PAC-2, it's a decade out of date, so yeah, I'll be skipping another one of your cocked up addons.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

And Invasion 1944 is 60 years out of date....

Another one of my cocked up addons? Weird that.. I haven't released any yet so how you'd know they're cocked up is beyond me. Nice of you to not admit you made an error of judgment on this occasion and instead try to throw some kind of personal insult instead of using reason, nice touch.

Take your flamebaiting elsewhere.

Everyone else: PAC-3 is planned.

[Gedis 0]

oh, enough of this crap!

we all know that S-300 and it's mods are best

nah, not the best, but on the top of SAM intercepting not only aircraft but also tactical missiles...

that's my oppinion...

well, it can be, that there are no at least same system in nato or else...

so let it be kept to this S-300 = ...

hm... it seems that i have to search for more info about patriot...

[miss_cleo 0]

damn.. i was looking forward to the HAWK most of all....

As far as the Patriots performance in Desert Storm... Most people dont realize that the patriot was not designed specificly as an antimissle system, its primaraly a long range SAM.

Your Patriot looks great BTW...

Oh, and while on the subject of SAMs... is that chapparal still coming?

[ralphwiggum 6]

ok, enough with technical discussions. keep it up and i'll hand out post restrictions.

[DKM Jaguar 0]

Oh, and while on the subject of SAMs... is that chapparal still coming?

With time, yeah

Ralph if this cannot be a debate about the techincal aspects of the Patriot (which directly effect the ingame version) then what's the point of this thread?

[orson 0]

Well, since we're discussing the PAC-2, it's a decade out of date, so yeah, I'll be skipping another one of your cocked up addons.

shithead

ok you can ban me now