Koolkid101 0 Posted June 24, 2003 I'm pretty sure addon making causes the maker to lose money but how much? Also do you think its worth it with all the complaining? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Usually none, most do it in their spare time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renagade 0 Posted June 24, 2003 eh??? u could look at as a good way of free advertising for ur skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FSPilot 0 Posted June 24, 2003 How would they lose money? Maybe $40 or so for buying editing programs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ale2999 0 Posted June 24, 2003 well I guess lose time = lose money but the gratification in seeing ur work at the end makes it worth it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigershark_BAS 0 Posted June 24, 2003 I think it should be considered in terms of cost and not money. Money is just one of the costs. 2002 Website hosting. ~300USD 2003 Website hosting plus domain name registration (new host) ~100USD Graphics tablet purchased specifically for texturing BAS Addons=200USD Time taken away from girlfriend/friends/family whilst making addons. 4 hours per day on average x 365 days=1460 hours Cost: Uncalculable Sleepless nights: Countless Regular day job hours lost due to sleepless nights: Countless Money made from addons: $0.00 Reason for becoming an addon maker: insanity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schoeler 0 Posted June 24, 2003 I think it should be considered in terms of cost and not money. Money is just one of the costs.2002 Website hosting. ~300USD 2003 Website hosting plus domain name registration (new host) ~100USD Graphics tablet purchased specifically for texturing BAS Addons=200USD Time taken away from girlfriend/friends/family whilst making addons. 4 hours per day on average x 365 days=1460 hours Cost: Uncalculable Sleepless nights: Countless Regular day job hours lost due to sleepless nights: Countless Money made from addons: $0.00 Reason for becoming an addon maker: insanity Tigershark, have you considered asking for donations to support your website like OFPEC did? Sorry about the lost time with family/friends/ and especially girlfriend, but a sincere thanks for all your work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigershark_BAS 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Schoeler...thanks for the sentiments. No....I don't think BAS would ever ask for money. I guess at the end of day it's a hobby that you would pour money into just like any other hobby (airsoft, scale modeling, guitar, etc.) OFPEC was different beast costing me in excess of 1000USD to run...mainly to host high bandwidth downloads and such. It really needed donations. If we ever made any money out of BAS I would want the crew to have it. They work damn hard and would deserve more than anything I could justify. My post above was just to put some perspective on the addon making paradox. Addon Making=Hobby however Addon Making can also equal grief and frustration....which kinda makes you wonder why you do it sometimes. I guess people don't always appreciate what gets sacrificed to make these which is why I was interested in replying to this thread. I applaud Koolkid for at least wondering and raising the question. Forgot to add this in my post above: Releasing an addon after months of work, first post in its release thread is a complaint = Priceless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schoeler 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Ah the joys of pouring your heart and soul into a work of art, the countless hours spent trying to perfect it, the blood, sweat tears, anguish in tediously accomplishing the work down to completing the last detail of the project only to have some 15 year old kid who's never had a job, girlfriend etc.., never even bought or worked hard for anything himself, treat you like you're his mother (or worse, slave) by demanding you fix some minor thing you overlooked, and NOW, NOW, NOW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Reason for becoming an addon maker: insanity I would have thought that the reason was the same as for those people who do volunteer work for the needy - giving something back to the "community"... I'm not much of an addon maker, but that's why I created my links page etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted June 24, 2003 Oh some billions of dollars are lost in addon making ;) Seriously , i think the biggest part of the cost is the tools for addon making As some people use Max , you probably know that it is not really cheap as a software by example, some graphic table used by some people are not cheap too For the internet website cost , not every addon maker have their own domains, so it can be negligible if free hosting or the own ISP hosting is used. But the result can be good for the addon maker : fame , glory , women ;) , or even to be recruited by a studio for some of them (in the model maker community in http://www.polycount.com , it has already happened some times) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigershark_BAS 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Reason for becoming an addon maker: insanity I would have thought that the reason was the same as for those people who do volunteer work for the needy - giving something back to the "community"... I'm not much of an addon maker, but that's why I created my links page etc. Â Usually people who volunteer for the needy are usually APPRECIATED for their efforts by all they help. There is the subtle difference ;) Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying that all members of this community are unappreciative. Let's say there are a lotta bad apples in the barrel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigershark_BAS 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Oh some billions of dollars are lost in addon making ;)Seriously , i think the biggest part of the cost is the tools for addon making As some people use Max , you probably know that it is not really cheap as a software by example, some graphic table used by some people are not cheap too For the internet website cost , not every addon maker have their own domains, so it can be negligible if free hosting or the own ISP hosting is used. But the result can be good for the addon maker : fame , glory , women ;) , or even to be recruited by a studio for some of them (in the model maker community in http://www.polycount.com , it has already happened some times) Yes...in reality...it's the time and effort that "costs" more than the money. But still....a lot of mods..pour money into their own sites to bring the community quality of service. ie. The site not going up and down like a brides nightie due to bandwidth caps etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 24, 2003 I personally have lost over US$80,000. So Koolkid if you'd like to make out a cheque to...   And Tigershark...there's some damm good apples as well  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted June 24, 2003 I personally have lost over US$80,000. So Koolkid if you'd like to make out a cheque to...   And Tigershark...there's some damm good apples as well  Hahah, if I had a credit card........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Quote[/b] ]Yes...in reality...it's the time and effort that "costs" more than the money. So what ? It´s a hobby and passion. Like any other hobby except some things that happen under the sheet it costs money. You don´t have to think that eternal gratitude will be the reward. It´s a moment of fame and than the users move on to search for new highlights. That´s the way it is and the way I like it. Community is the magic word. Self-profilating people don´t fit a word like community. It is fun to contribute to the community with addons, missions, isles whatever. And you do get feedback. What else can we expect ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted June 24, 2003 And u get respect. I have tried so many of the addons that exist for OFP and I must say that everytime I see one of the modders here online I say: "huh, isnt that the one who did the ...?" But I must say that I especially respect those of you that created easy wizards, guides, linkpages and fori for people who want to learn about modelling. In the end lots of the people that created new vehicules, arms...a.s.o did their first steps with ur support. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted June 25, 2003 Bump I wanna know more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted June 25, 2003 Ah yes... now I see what Tigershark posted... Hosting: ~$380 (per year)... it's going to get worse when/if I get a dedicated server :o Tablet: $100.00 (12x9, w00t) Plugins: OldMovie plugin, specifically for OFP Combat Photos SFG: $25 for bandwidth on I44 release, $20 for OldMovie plugin... bastage 380+100+20+20+25=$545 And Operation Flashpoint, Red Hammer, Resistance... $75 $620 (bleh... OFP has ruined my math sk1llz. too lazy to put it into a calculator, if it's wrong, it's ofp's fault) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted June 25, 2003 Wow, I don't earn half of that delivering papers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SFG 1 Posted June 26, 2003 SFG: $25 for bandwidth on I44 release, $20 for OldMovie plugin... bastage What? I dont know what your talking about Shh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
