TheMarshal=TOB= 0 Posted December 3, 2003 Check your PM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron von Beer 0 Posted December 3, 2003 No no no, poor wording on my part.. I mean crazy as in "Wild", "off the wall, yet true", etc.. Not as in you need to be institutionalized "crazy". Reread the post with that in mind, and you will see there was no disagreement. (I HAVE read about Sub incidents, which will also be brought to light upon re-reading. The grounded mini sub was also an eye opener, if you knew what you were looking at. ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted December 3, 2003 how about using thread provided by avon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted December 3, 2003 (RalphWiggum @ Dec. 02 2003,23:35) said: eh? iraq war now taking place in Korea? How about the other way around? S.Korea Wants to Send Iraq Troops Without Delay [b said: Quote[/b] ]SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea (news - web sites) will not delay sending more troops to help U.S.-led forces in Iraq (news - web sites) once parliament approves the plan, President Roh Moo-Hyun said on Wednesday. Although the opposition has a majority in parliament, Roh is considered likely to secure approval for the deployment because the main opposition Grand National Party supports the plan. But it is not a foregone conclusion. Roh's latest comments on the issue came at a meeting with a parliamentary fact-finding team, which recommended on Tuesday that South Korea send more troops to Iraq, although it acknowledged the soldiers could become the target of militants there. Gunmen shot dead two South Korean civilian contractors and wounded two in Iraq on Sunday, but Roh's government pledged to go ahead with its deployment plan. Roh has yet to decide what kind of troops to send -- many people are against sending combat forces. "There will be much debate to pass the parliamentary bill on sending troops to Iraq, but the government will pursue it without any delay," Roh told the fact-finding team, according to a statement from the presidential Blue House. A close alliance with the United States was vital because of its role in resolving the crisis over North Korea (news - web sites)'s nuclear weapons program, he said. North Korea urged the South to change its decision to send troops to Iraq, according to the South's Yonhap news agency. Sorry for starting that OT Ralph, but after all, it's not every day you learn that SK police are using Russian ASW Choppers to hunt NK subs . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Schweitzer 10 Posted December 3, 2003 Hell! Would you please welcome new members in a more moderate way  . We have time enough to verify what is being said, or do you already want to loose new contributors after 10 posts? I enjoy the fresh breeze of new members and I am not getting involved in this rethorical Blitzkrieg. (I wouldnt have the know how anyway ) So in case you are Marine, well could you please do me a favour and ensure that german DHL planes in Iraq are better protected.  ... ....and in case Mr Bush comes to visit your cantine too ..well then please get a plate with potato pie, write my name into it with your finger and throw it into his determined face. Now this is an expression of free speech isnt it, if I realy would like to harm him I would offer him a bavarian Bretzel. But you are probably lucky and meet Mrs Clinton. Shame enough a women has as much guts as the president., (ouch after this macho statement Avon is gonna stone me, and after that potato-pie proposal Tex will probably join her) And to bring some humor back to this thread answer the following ..what is written on this wall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted December 3, 2003 (Albert Schweizer @ Dec. 03 2003,20:41) said: So in case you are Marine, well could you please do me a favour and ensure that german DHL planes in Iraq are better protected. I'm sure they're covering UPS and FedEx flights. Get your own army! [b said: Quote[/b] ]if I realy would like to harm him I would offer him a bavarian Bretzel. I think the Secret Service are trained to tackle bretzels to the floor. [b said: Quote[/b] ]But you are probably lucky and meet Mrs Clinton. Shame enough a women has as much guts as the president.,(ouch after this macho statement Avon is gonna stone me, and after that potato-pie proposal Tex will probably join her) Well it depends. If Hillary's had a tummy tuck, she most liekely has less guts the the President actually. [b said: Quote[/b] ]And to bring some humor back to this thread answer the following ..what is written on this wall? http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,311950,00.jpg Sigo Slqni Stipls lza Hasi Hi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tamme 0 Posted December 3, 2003 This thread has turned weird. What's wrong with you ppl? Combat fatigue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted December 3, 2003 Here's something for you addon buffs: The Stryker: US Military`s Great White Hope against Iraqi RPGs Excerpt: [b said: Quote[/b] ]The Stryker: US Military`s Great White Hope against Iraqi RPGsDEBKAfile Special Military Analysis December 3, 2003, 2:24 PM (GMT+02:00) At Camp Udairi in Kuwait, US armament technicians are working extra-hard in giant hangars on a Christmas gift for US troops plagued by guerrilla attacks in Iraq. It is the Stryker, an eight-wheel drive armored combat vehicle, the first new armored carrier to enter service in the US army since the Abrams tank was introduced in the 1980s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted December 3, 2003 The reason they say it's their hope against RPG's is the metal cage around the vehicle, which is designed to set off the RPG before it impacts the vehicle itself. The Russians started doing this a while back in Chechnya, even using chain link fences to get the same effect....however, the wheels and the top of the vehicle are still unprotected. I imagine there are plenty of second-story buildings in Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted December 3, 2003 Not to mention any roadside explosives or mines.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted December 3, 2003 I agree. Makes me wonder what the excitement about Strykers is all about. New toy? Someone has to prove that billions weren't spent for nothing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NurEinMensch 0 Posted December 3, 2003 My thoughts exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted December 3, 2003 (theavonlady @ Dec. 03 2003,21:04) said: Someone has to prove that billions weren't spent for nothing? Actually, the money is now circulating quite nicely in Canada now Though, I doubt the government is going to do anything useful with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted December 3, 2003 Well, eurocopter might be interested in selling some replacements for your sea kings.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted December 3, 2003 (Albert Schweizer @ Dec. 03 2003,13:41) said: Hell! Would you please welcome new members in a more moderate way . We have time enough to verify what is being said, or do you already want to loose new contributors after 10 posts? I enjoy the fresh breeze of new members and I am not getting involved in this rethorical Blitzkrieg. (I wouldnt have the know how anyway ) Yeah right... that's a joke right? You have read all the posts from this guy eh? Plz. don't talk about the Canadian forces here unless it is for entertainment purposes only. Well we are set mostly on Peace keeping, and can't even keep that up to a great extent anymore. I wonder what CEO Martin will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turms 0 Posted December 3, 2003 (bn880 @ Dec. 03 2003,21:59) said: (Albert Schweizer @ Dec. 03 2003,13:41) said: Hell! Would you please welcome new members in a more moderate way  . We have time enough to verify what is being said, or do you already want to loose new contributors after 10 posts? I enjoy the fresh breeze of new members and I am not getting involved in this rethorical Blitzkrieg. (I wouldnt have the know how anyway ) Yeah right...   that's a joke right?  You have read all the posts from this guy eh?  Plz. don't talk about the Canadian forces here   unless it is for entertainment purposes only. Well we are set mostly on Peace keeping, and can't even keep that up to a great extent anymore.  I wonder what CEO Martin will do. I think he was reffering to TheMarshal=TOB= ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMarshal=TOB= 0 Posted December 4, 2003 Who says I'm new...LOL been around these forums for a long time, just under my old name (302_Dragon) I mainly post in the addons forums and the OFP Combat Photography forum. No need to be moderate...lol I'm a big Boy I can handle my own, as USMC Sgt Wulf found out the hard way. Â On topic: As far the Stryker, if the Army wants to keep them from getting trashed they need to keep them out of the cities. Thats where they are getting hit the most. The only way to go against gurrilla war tactics is to use them ourselves. everyone thought this war was going to be like the first Gulf war, go in airstike for a week and call it quits. Well we did more then just push the Iraqis back into Iraq, we went in after them, into their homeland and took over...the military and the public should have expected this to happen. Anyway before I lose track of what I'm trying to get at...I think that we should keep our big armor out of the cities as much as possible. The US and coalition forces have enough technology to take on any enemy force without heavy or light armor. We tried to over come North Vietnam with heavy armor and airstikes and accomplished very little in the big scheme, but as far as our ground troops, they were pushing the VC and NVA back...they fought a gurrilla war the way it should be fought, we need to do the same thing in Iraq or we won't get anywhere and that country will get thrown into the middle of a huge civil war. Thats my 2 cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted December 4, 2003 [b said: Quote[/b] ]they were pushing the VC and NVA back... Back and forth will be a correct term to describe that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmgarcangel 0 Posted December 4, 2003 Why do people think its another vietnam? forgods sake, its a peace keeping duty right now, thats all it is, and we have hardly lost any soldiers. Say 1000, but hell, we gots tons of them man, even though every life is precious. Anyhow, the attackers have lost more lifes than we, so much more. If we had lost the amount of soldiers that the terrorists and the fighters against the US forces and UN forces, than one thing would be true............we'd have lost alot of military might Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted December 4, 2003 (bmgarcangel @ Dec. 04 2003,02:13) said: Why do people think its another vietnam? forgods sake, its a peace keeping duty right now, thats all it is, and we have hardly lost any soldiers. Â Say 1000, but hell, we gots tons of them man, even though every life is precious. It's not another Vietnam. It's another Afghanistan (Soviet, 80's, not the recent one). [b said: Quote[/b] ]Anyhow, the attackers have lost more lifes than we, so much more. Â If we had lost the amount of soldiers that the terrorists and the fighters against the US forces and UN forces, than one thing would be true............we'd have lost alot of military might What UN forces? There are no UN forces in Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted December 4, 2003 (bmgarcangel @ Dec. 04 2003,02:13) said: Anyhow, the attackers have lost more lifes than we, so much more. Â If we had lost the amount of soldiers that the terrorists and the fighters against the US forces and UN forces, than one thing would be true............we'd have lost alot of military might We killed well over 1.5 million Vietnamese before we lost in Southeast Asia, suffering a little less than 60,000 deaths for our part. Not particularly relevant, but it does show you that a good kill/loss ratio does not necessarily indicate who's winning. edit: multitasking sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted December 4, 2003 1.5 what? Million? Thousand? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted December 4, 2003 (DracoPaladore @ Dec. 04 2003,04:09) said: 1.5 what? Million? Thousand? Oops. I was doing physics while typing that, so I wasn't exactly concentrating on proofreading my post. Will have to edit that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted December 4, 2003 Million *edit* what Tex said about Multitasking, too slow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites