Child soldiers

[Jinef 2]

Anywho, the whole problem with Child Soldiers usually doesn't involve parental influence or anything like that, they are usually forced into it. There was controversy over if child soldiers were to be used in Iraq, which could have been more effective. Hussein had nothing to lose reflecting in hindsight, he did not do anything ourageous because he was appealing to the International community, which eventually seemed irrelevant as the tanks rolled in.

[peanuckle_00 0]

Looking at those African children with guns, I don't think they're forced to fight if there is any similarity between us them as kids. They know what goes on in the world. They know kids somewhere else in the world must be wanting to play soldier too and are having more fun, so they figure why should they suffer more? They come to the elders and want to do something fun like play soldier but theres a war going on that the elders have gotten themselves into. They can't give him much else but a "spot". "Spot" makes it all seem like a sport or fun but its not. Even worse than that is the Democratic party dumbing down education because they're afraid that since a Republican was responsible for freeing the slaves then all the blacks will want to be Republicans. Meh. Clinton was a good Democrat though. I'd vote for him again.... Where was I, heh? Oh yeah, crime and fear are personal options. Sometimes the pressure of both can be overwhelming based on the situation. We as men who live in the United States have begun taking it upon ourselves to eliminate these problems. This is our government, our game. We run it. The president doesn't get up on CNN and say "Well, God told me that we should help people deal with problems rather than try to eliminate them so I want you all to..." No. We can choose one or the other. This government was built for options. All voices will be heard, and changes will be made.

[Col. Kurtz 0]

A lot of child soldiers are kidnapped and forced to fight, they don't generally think 'I want to play Rambo with a Kalishnakov' and then run off to kill.

Although they do tend to undergo phycological 'tweaking' to make them more into the idea of fighting. Most of them are uneducated and don't know much more than a simple life. About giving guns to young people, as long as it’s done in a controlled manner and they understand what they are dealing with and they are always supervised when around firearms I see no major problem.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ April 19 2003,12:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

Do you allow people to replay WW2 battles in uniforms, with accurate weapons and Nazi relics ?

yes, so? it is a reinactment, some do the same for the civil war and the american revolution, do you have a problem with movies having them in it? Its like an interactive history lesson

Do you have a problem with racism ?

Problem? no, but do we have it, yes.

Are blacks "equal" in the US ?

Yes

Are islam people "equal" in the US since 911 ?

Yes

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Necromancer- @ April 17 2003,14:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Balschoiw @ April 18 2003,12:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I guess no kid on earth should be forced to practise with weapons or use them. No matter if the kid is in Kabul or the USA.<span id='postcolor'>

but what if the kid wants to?<span id='postcolor'>

It's not the child's decision what he gets and what he doesn't get.

[FSPilot 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thats a German Navy ensign. Notice there are no Swastikas on it, only the Iron Cross.

If thats a right wing group holding it up, they are pricks for carrying it, as it has no connections with Nazism in general. Why didn't they go and buy a nice big Third Reich flag eh?<span id='postcolor'>

Probably illegal in Germany. This photo was listed as a nazi march in Germany.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well FS this is about children and guns. We do infact have the strictest law on nazi people and nazi propaganda, music, symbols, political parties, etc.<span id='postcolor'>

So THAT explains why they're marching in your streets.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you have ?<span id='postcolor'>

We have freedom of speech. Like I said, some people still haven't learned their lesson.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you allow people to replay WW2 battles in uniforms, with accurate weapons and Nazi relics ?<span id='postcolor'>

Why would we do that in America?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Do you have a problem with racism ?<span id='postcolor'>

Do you?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are blacks "equal" in the US ?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are islam people "equal" in the US since 911 ?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You better stay on topic FS and stop your well known FS attacks. They make no sense anyway. Pure FS as ever.<span id='postcolor'>

And you'd better stay on topic as well, and stop your well known Balschoiw attacks. No sense, pure Balshoiw, whatever.

ANYWAY, staying on topic, the gun problem in the US can be blamed on fear. Let's be honest, there is a crime problem in the US. People are afraid of crime, so they want to defend themselves. There are people that will sneak into your house at night and steal your things. There have even been people in the US that will sneak into your house and rape and kill you and your family. If you knew of these things happening and very possibly happening to you, wouldn't you want to buy a gun too?

If you saw a strange man walking through your house at night, into your childs room, wouldn't you shoot him too?

[Badgerboy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Probably illegal in Germany. This photo was listed as a nazi march in Germany.<span id='postcolor'>

It has nothng to do with Nazism so it is not illegal. Thoserdozy right wing bastards don't know even know which flags to carry.

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FSPilot @ April 19 2003,18:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well FS this is about children and guns. We do infact have the strictest law on nazi people and nazi propaganda, music, symbols, political parties, etc.<span id='postcolor'>

So THAT explains why they're marching in your streets.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you have ?<span id='postcolor'>

We have freedom of speech.  Like I said, some people still haven't learned their lesson.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you allow people to replay WW2 battles in uniforms, with accurate weapons and Nazi relics ?<span id='postcolor'>

Why would we do that in America?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Do you have a problem with racism ?<span id='postcolor'>

Do you?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are blacks "equal" in the US ?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are islam people "equal" in the US since 911 ?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You better stay on topic FS and stop your well known FS attacks. They make no sense anyway. Pure FS as ever.<span id='postcolor'>

And you'd better stay on topic as well, and stop your well known Balschoiw attacks.  No sense, pure Balshoiw, whatever.

ANYWAY, staying on topic, the gun problem in the US can be blamed on fear.  Let's be honest, there is a crime problem in the US.  People are afraid of crime, so they want to defend themselves.  There are people that will sneak into your house at night and steal your things.  There have even been people in the US that will sneak into your house and rape and kill you and your family.  If you knew of these things happening and very possibly happening to you, wouldn't you want to buy a gun too?

If you saw a strange man walking through your house at night, into your childs room, wouldn't you shoot him too?<span id='postcolor'>

take a look at your own backyard FS , it is getting ridiculous

[Badgerboy 0]

If some bastard breaks into my house at night, I can be certain he isn't packing a firearm. That means I can goat beat the crap out of him with my bat without the risk of being shot.

I recently caught two guys breaking into my friends car across the road. I walked outside with my bat, dragged the bastards out,and threatened serious physical harm to them if they tried to run. I held them till the police turned up, and they arrested them. There is no wau I would try that in the US, I would be scared shitless they would have a cheap handgun with them, so I would stay in my house and call the police, who would probably turn up late and miss them.

The next day I would go and buy a handgun to protect myself, but never venture outside to confront anyone with it.

No thanks.

[peanuckle_00 0]

This is going to hurt some of you more than it hurts me but that bit about kids being kidnapped and made into soldiers, that's bull. It's very outlandish. I can't see something like that happening and I believe you can't prove it so where did you come up with that, hmmm? Feel free not to answer if you're wrong.

[FSPilot 0]

8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ April 20 2003,028)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">take a look at your own backyard FS , it is getting ridiculous<span id='postcolor'>

You don't have to tell me.  

It's 2003 and some people are still racist.  It's getting better though.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If some bastard breaks into my house at night, I can be certain he isn't packing a firearm. That means I can goat beat the crap out of him with my bat without the risk of being shot.<span id='postcolor'>

Thats the problem with anti-gun laws.  They're being put in place, among other reasons, to keep guns out of criminals hands.  Now, first off I'd bet that most guns used in crimes are illegal in the first place, but that's not my biggest concern.

Let's use your example.  Someone is breaking into your house: trespassing, breaking and entering.  Now they're not breaking in to admire your furniture: burglary, assault, God forbid rape, murder.  Now, considering that the criminal in question may have intentions to break a number of violent crimes, what makes anybody think that they would use a legally registered gun?

If you make guns illegal, only criminals will have guns.

[Badgerboy 0]

I can be sure that he doesn't have a firearm, as no burglar has ever been caught with one. (Discounting the professional jobs on manor houses etc)

The only people that carry weapons are either gangs (Something we have picked up from the US), or professional hardened criminals, not petty thieves.

If a professional bunch of guys enter my house with or without guns, I'm fucked, but as don't have many artworks or diamonds its unlikely to happen.

Over here, all handguns are illegal,so if you are carrying one it certainly is not legally registered. It takes alot of effort to obtain firearm over here, so little Joe, who needs to do someones house to get his next fix, can't swipe his fathers gun and kill someone in a bungled break in.

Criminals can always get guns, but here petty ones can't.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ April 19 2003,23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Criminals can always get guns, but here petty ones can't.<span id='postcolor'>

Yup, and I would prefer it to stay this way.

[peanuckle_00 0]

All that you said about the only people that carry guns are criminals or gangs is prejudice to gun owners, Americans, and the right to bear arms. I know that plenty of gun owners here in Arizona carry guns to go hunting, sport shooting, or are collectors. Busted!

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ April 19 2003,23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ April 19 2003,23:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Criminals can always get guns, but here petty ones can't.<span id='postcolor'>

Yup, and I would prefer it to stay this way.<span id='postcolor'>

agreed

the "petty" criminals are generally the less professionnal ones , the trigger happy ones, but "professionnals" generally use their weapons as a disuasion meen or against possible "concurrence" (other criminals)

[ran 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ April 19 2003,23:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Saying that the only people that carry guns are criminals or gangs is prejudice to gun owners.  I know plenty of gun owners here in Arizona that carry guns to go hunting, sport shooting, or are collectors.  Busted!<span id='postcolor'>

they carry guns ?

Busted!

you don't carry a gun when you're a collector or a sport shooter , you transport it and you shoot it

[peanuckle_00 0]

That's why America was formed. You prejudiced, preemptive, intolerant people across the ocean think that you're on a pedastool, granting yourself rights and taking them from everyone else. Think about it. If you were smart you'd know that you can't preemptively bust everything. Sometimes you just have to wait for things to eventually happen, then rely on police. Vigilante dork. Stick to ofp.

[Badgerboy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ April 19 2003,22:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All that you said about the only people that carry guns are criminals or gangs is prejudice to gun owners, Americans, and the right to bear arms.  I know that plenty of gun owners here in Arizona carry guns to go hunting, sport shooting, or are collectors.  Busted!<span id='postcolor'>

We are talking about the UK. If you are 'transporting' or carrying a handgun it is illegal. The only time I get to shoot pistols is on a military range.

'Busted?' - You must be very proud.

[Badgerboy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ April 19 2003,22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's why America was formed.  You prejudiced, preemptive, intolerant people across the ocean think that you're on a pedastool, granting yourself rights and taking rights from everyone else.  Think about it.

<span id='postcolor'>

Eh? Now your babbling....

What is your point? What are you trying to say? Why are you here?

If you read what we were discussing, I was expressing my feelings towards having US gun laws in my country (UK). On this FSPilot and I disagree, but Americans have had a long history of owning firearms so that is quite understandable.

And please, if your going to rant, make it relevant.

[peanuckle_00 0]

Oy. Don't try to throw "we" in your sentence to throw me off of you. My point is that you can't preemptively bust everyone to live in a safer world. I don't care if you don't like that or not.

[Badgerboy 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ April 19 2003,22:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oy.  Don't try to throw "we" in your sentence to throw me off of you.<span id='postcolor'>

Substitute 'we' for 'I was', and your reply still makes no sense.

[peanuckle_00 0]

It's perfect as it is now get back on track Badgerboy.

[ran 0]

calm down both of you , isn't there anyway to keep discussions civil here ?

[Badgerboy 0]

If he insists on editing his posts to try and cover his mistakes, then I think I'm justified.

As for a 'vigilante dork', I'm within my rights to conduct a citizens arrest on a criminal. Its a shame more people don't make the effort.

Stick to OFP? How does this relate to apprehending criminals?

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ April 19 2003,23:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's why America was formed.  You prejudiced, preemptive, intolerant people across the ocean think that you're on a pedastool, granting yourself rights and taking them from everyone else.  Think about it.  If you were smart you'd know that you can't preemptively bust everything.  Sometimes you just have to wait for things to eventually happen, then rely on police.  Vigilante dork.  Stick to ofp.<span id='postcolor'>

Namecalling = 24h PR