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Don't get me wrong , for a test bed multiplayer is ok, but I still  prefer  to test mods and develop missions in singleplayer, since it allows to  create more complex scenarios, add scripting, also - surprise factor is a thing, as you never know how AI  would act. And yes, devs should  make AI learn how to  drive or at least how to mount vehicles, alongside many more things. Hopefully its matter of little time 

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BI has made it very clear what their priorities are with the new engine. Their number priority is to be multi-platform, and get Arma into the console market, their second priority is multiplayer. Honestly, we don't know how much, if any single player game modes, or content will be made for Arma 4, I would be very surprised if A4 has a single player campaign.  

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48 minutes ago, stburr91 said:

BI has made it very clear what their priorities are with the new engine. Their number priority is to be multi-platform, and get Arma into the console market, their second priority is multiplayer. Honestly, we don't know how much, if any single player game modes, or content will be made for Arma 4, I would be very surprised if A4 has a single player campaign.  

Well, it's sad to know. Most of Arma success  was from its editor and ability to create your own content, missions and campaigns including

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1 hour ago, Alex_LT said:

Well, it's sad to know. Most of Arma success  was from its editor and ability to create your own content, missions and campaigns including

It's sadly very clear that BI wants to remove SP content completely, lol they even broke the few things we did have in Reforger that you could consider "SP"

Like breaking all endgame triggers not even allowing mission makers to make semi "SP" content, really sad indeed.

Let's just say i wont be buying A4 on the release day, i will watch it closly, and if there's no sp content or mission editor, im done with the Arma series for good.

It's also really annoying to see how consolized all the menus in the game are, they even managed to mess up that simple spawn menu with their last "big" "update" 

making it so much more annoying simply to spawn in a scenario.

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39 minutes ago, Fred1988 said:

It's sadly very clear that BI wants to remove SP content completely, lol they even broke the few things we did have in Reforger that you could consider "SP"

Like breaking all endgame triggers not even allowing mission makers to make semi "SP" content, really sad indeed.

Let's just say i wont be buying A4 on the release day, i will watch it closly, and if there's no sp content or mission editor, im done with the Arma series for good.

It's also really annoying to see how consolized all the menus in the game are, they even managed to mess up that simple spawn menu with their last "big" "update" 

making it so much more annoying simply to spawn in a scenario.

Same here

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3 hours ago, stburr91 said:

BI has made it very clear what their priorities are with the new engine. Their number priority is to be multi-platform, and get Arma into the console market, their second priority is multiplayer. Honestly, we don't know how much, if any single player game modes, or content will be made for Arma 4, I would be very surprised if A4 has a single player campaign.  

They would not be the first dev team to dumb down and ruin their game to meet some fickle "console" demand that vanishes (unlike how Arma has been a constant revenue stream for them). This is coming from someone who would love if it worked out for them. I bough a pc for Arma. I built PCs for Arma. I would have loved to jump on console with my friends or family and have shown them what they have been missing. But, and this is a big butt.

 

Having played this for a bit now, I am starting to feel there may be compromise creep going on in the background, I hope they fully understand what it will mean for the future of the series and their livelihoods, if they get this wrong and bastardise something beloved like Arma4.  We have seen it many times now and still it astonishes me how some people just do not seem to be able to read a room. 

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But the devs are useless. This is well over a year after release and the game is still full of connection timeouts and session errors, plus terrible collision detection and terrible netcode and rubber banding. This game is a joke. Bring out Arma 4 with PC only and better code, not this console trash from terrible developers. Surely Bohemia can do better than this.

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Found this video 

 

Just shows what the future of arma is, especially since SP is being phased out, so this shit is what we will have left lol

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15 minutes ago, Fred1988 said:

Found this video 

 

Just shows what the future of arma is, especially since SP is being phased out, so this shit is what we will have left lol

looks like  bunch of children  having no idea what to do..good bye hardcore military sim..

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6 minutes ago, Alex_LT said:

looks like  bunch of children  having no idea what to do..good bye hardcore military sim..

Yeah, these are probably the types of kids who say "arma doesn't need SP or an editor" and yes, i've seen a few of those comments on youtube.

I've just uninstalled reforger and given up on the mods that i was working on, im going back to A3 to polish up a couple existing mods, then i'll probably go play Arma 3 in a few years for the nostalgia, A4 i 0 hope for at this point.

 

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Just now, Fred1988 said:

Yeah, these are probably the types of kids who say "arma doesn't need SP or an editor" and yes, i've seen a few of those comments on youtube.

I've just uninstalled reforger and given up on the mods that i was working on, im going back to A3 to polish up a couple existing mods, then i'll probably go play Arma 3 in a few years for the nostalgia, A4 i 0 hope for at this point.

 

Thing is , Reforger has god perfect cold war setting which I loved in original OFP and A2. Besides,  devs  announced  soonish video, "REFORGER RFI"(Request for information) where they are supposingly answer  our questions about future of arma. lets just wait for that video

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3 hours ago, Fred1988 said:

Found this video 

 

Just shows what the future of arma is, especially since SP is being phased out, so this shit is what we will have left lol

Close your eyes and listen to the video...
It sounds exactly like being on an A3 KOTH server. 🤣

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18 hours ago, Alex_LT said:

Thing is , Reforger has god perfect cold war setting which I loved in original OFP and A2. Besides,  devs  announced  soonish video, "REFORGER RFI"(Request for information) where they are supposingly answer  our questions about future of arma. lets just wait for that video

Well, i did try my best to find a way to create some SP content, and now i think i might have done so.

Just released a new mod right now called Ghost Recon  2001. For now it only have the first mission, but made on it's own map.

You got 4 objectives in the mission. 1: Clear out Militia camp. 2 Eliminate Bakur Papashvili. 3: Collect Intel. 4: Get to the extraction point.

The mission will end once these tasks are completed, it can be played in Solo or with up to 20 players. An arsenal crate is provided at the spawn point for usage of custom weapons.

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5E0E6298EE9FF558-GhostRecon2001

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20 minutes ago, Fred1988 said:

Well, i did try my best to find a way to create some SP content, and now i think i might have done so.

Just released a new mod right now called Ghost Recon  2001. For now it only have the first mission, but made on it's own map.

You got 4 objectives in the mission. 1: Clear out Militia camp. 2 Eliminate Bakur Papashvili. 3: Collect Intel. 4: Get to the extraction point.

The mission will end once these tasks are completed, it can be played in Solo or with up to 20 players. An arsenal crate is provided at the spawn point for usage of custom weapons.

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5E0E6298EE9FF558-GhostRecon2001

Sounds like something worth trying. But cant test it right now, I live far from my pc. Still, someday...I wonder , if there will be single player in A4, will devs give us campaigns ? Would love to play  old Cold war crisis campaign, extended, with new features and options..something to dream about I guess 

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On 8/9/2023 at 1:47 PM, Fred1988 said:

Found this video 

 

Just shows what the future of arma is, especially since SP is being phased out, so this shit is what we will have left lol

 

lol the hardcore servers of dedicated milsim severs where its always been at. Not casual play on official servers, if thats what you are looking for.

 

I personally find this kind of banter amusing.

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On 8/9/2023 at 2:11 PM, Fred1988 said:

Yeah, these are probably the types of kids who say "arma doesn't need SP or an editor" and yes, i've seen a few of those comments on youtube.

I've just uninstalled reforger and given up on the mods that i was working on, im going back to A3 to polish up a couple existing mods, then i'll probably go play Arma 3 in a few years for the nostalgia, A4 i 0 hope for at this point.

 

 

I spent most of my hours in conflict or similar type  multiplayer game modes in prior armas. SO I am right at home with what is a Arma 4 Tech demo focus being on multiplayer, rather then a singe player campaign. So for me my priority for confidence for future of A4 first and foremost is seeing the game be stable enough to support at least 64 player servers, if not 128. But im pretty sure A4 will have single player scenarios even if its not included at launch, IF a3 ALPHA was anything to go by.

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When will they fix the session errors and bugs? In about 6 months? Why hire such incompetent developers?

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4 hours ago, jakeplissken said:

When will they fix the session errors and bugs? In about 6 months? Why hire such incompetent developers?

Developers are competent.Its new engine, and crossplay issues

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