New anti-tk and anti-rk fuction for ofp

[InqWiper 0]

This is how it works:

If you are get teamkilled or respawnkilled a dialog will comes up. In the dialog it says for example RESPAWNKILLED BY: [OFK]Maj.InqWiper (not that I respawnkill alot :-P).

You will have camera view on the guy who killed you from relpos [50,0,30].

Then there is a list in the top left corner where you can chose from different ways of punnishing the the guy who RKed/TKed you.

You kan punnish with:

Catapult                              (setvelocity [-50,50,50])

Instant Death                       (setdammage 1)

Explosion                             (camcreate Heat73 (wich is actually a sabot))

Freefall                                (setpos to 1000 meters)

Remove Weapons                 (removeallweapons Unit)

Drowning                             (setpos [0,0,0])

Im probably gonna remove explosion, but maybe not. I might add some other ways of punnishing.

Please try it out and say what you think. Bugs, questions, ideas, comments?

e-mail to InqWiper@hotmail.com or just post it here  

Example MP mission St Pierre by [TNF]Steiner

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[Harnu 0]

Here's a suggestion, don't use it.

It's a great idea and all.. in theory.

If you get TK'd it's not always on purpose. An accidental TK shouldn't be punished. If everyone were rational enough to take the time and see why he/she got tk'd, well wouldn't that be a dream.

A lot of people, (Myself included) would be very fast to press a button to punish that person just out of impulse.

[HellToupee 0]

there r many just dumb tks tho where they deserve it, i was plyin a map i was on foot was under fire soi run up to one of my tanks a t80, the t80 puts a sabot in my brain after lookin at me for a good while, he said i looked like nme, i was onyl 20m away with a rpg and not shootin him. There rmany dum ppl around, one guy killed me after i stood beside him for about 10 seconds he said i looked like nme.

[Harnu 0]

Yes, I agree there are some dumb people, but still, sometimes they are accidents.

If someone TK's you, and you TK them back.  Then you're both in trouble.  This is just the fancy way of performing a revenge TK.

[bn880 5]

This is a great idea. I will try this at the next convenience!!! Did you get the idea from Raven Shield?

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 14 2003,01:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, I agree there are some dumb people, but still, sometimes they are accidents.

If someone TK's you, and you TK them back. Then you're both in trouble. This is just the fancy way of performing a revenge TK.<span id='postcolor'>

There should be an option that will just cause a text message like "Bad <name of the TKer>! Baaaaaaad <name of the TKer>!!!"... Something no fatal, for those cases where it was obviously not intentional (like you ran straight into his line of fire).

[HellToupee 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (joltan @ Jan. 14 2003,14:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 14 2003,01:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, I agree there are some dumb people, but still, sometimes they are accidents.

If someone TK's you, and you TK them back. Then you're both in trouble. This is just the fancy way of performing a revenge TK.<span id='postcolor'>

There should be an option that will just cause a text message like "Bad <name of the TKer>! Baaaaaaad <name of the TKer>!!!"... Something no fatal, for those cases where it was obviously not intentional (like you ran straight into his line of fire).<span id='postcolor'>

wat this dose is give ppl punshment for tkin to put them off, i get pissed when ppl tk me, sum ppl r so dum they deserve it, this sounds good because when ever sum one tks in in ofp ild get to deside their fate.

[Harnu 0]

So bascially on the servers you play you are allowed to revenge TK? Without penalty that is...?

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 13 2003,21:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So bascially on the servers you play you are allowed to revenge TK? Without penalty that is...?<span id='postcolor'>

Yes, that's how it works I think. Like in Raven Shield. I think there is an option to do nothing. Or there should be.

EDIT: Remove weapons.... rofl, that's something

[Harnu 0]

bn880, what do you mean, "you think"?

And this isn't raven sheild

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 13 2003,21:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">bn880, what do you mean, "you think"?

And this isn't raven sheild<span id='postcolor'>

You sure you okay today?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are get teamkilled or respawnkilled a dialog will comes up. In the dialog it says for example RESPAWNKILLED BY: [OFK]Maj.InqWiper (not that I respawnkill alot :-P).

You will have camera view on the guy who killed you from relpos [50,0,30].

Then there is a list in the top left corner where you can chose from different ways of punnishing the the guy who RKed/TKed you.

You kan punnish with:

Catapult (setvelocity [-50,50,50])

Instant Death (setdammage 1)

Explosion (camcreate Heat73 (wich is actually a sabot))

Freefall (setpos to 1000 meters)

Remove Weapons (removeallweapons Unit)

Drowning (setpos [0,0,0])

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[Mister Frag 0]

Besides adding an option to do nothing (accidental TKs happen), I would add something that combines removing all weapons and setting the damage to .95 or something like that.

That way, the bastard will have to crawl around unarmed until someone puts him out of his misery.

[Harnu 0]

Your point?

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 13 2003,21:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your point? <span id='postcolor'>

A bit of Avon's spirit: My Point is here

And specifically: FAQ

[Harnu 0]

Listen, every damn server I play on HATES TKERS! If someone tk's you, thats crap! Wanna know what's even more crap? It's when you do it back to them! Every frigin server I've played on doesn't allow tking, OR revenge tking. Why should a script change that?

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Jan. 13 2003,22:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Listen, every damn server I play on HATES TKERS! If someone tk's you, thats crap! Wanna know what's even more crap? It's when you do it back to them! Every frigin server I've played on doesn't allow tking, OR revenge tking. Why should a script change that?<span id='postcolor'>

I'm not going to argue for or against having suchs a TK revenge system, I think it's a great option to have. You do not have to add it to your mission, and you do not have to use it if it is implemented. It's just another path opened up by InqWiper.

[Harnu 0]

Bah, I just don't like that whole idea.  I need some sleep.  Been up for 16 hours today... haven't gotten much sleep lately.  Crap!  Man, i'm goin to bed now.. have to get up in 6 hours! Grrr      

edit: Moron me, cant even count. 9:30 now... 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5:30 thats... 8 hours. Ohh wow a full nights sleep.

[Itchy 0]

Well, I can see pros and cons of the script. Its an option for the admin, and more options are always good.

I always liked the way Action Halflife dealt with TKers. You have until the end of the round to type "forgivetk" to spare them, if not, they sit out the next round.

Of course, when a round lasts 2 minutes, thats fine. When it can last 40 minutes, thats a little harsh. I think the script is one for the respawn missions only.

[InqWiper 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is a great idea. I will try this at the next convenience!!!  Did you get the idea from Raven Shield?<span id='postcolor'>

Thanks  

I got it from CS actually. It isnt the best game but this part of the game is good  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There should be an option that will just cause a text message like "Bad <name of the TKer>! Baaaaaaad <name of the TKer>!!!"... Something no fatal, for those cases where it was obviously not intentional (like you ran straight into his line of fire).

<span id='postcolor'>

Thats not a bad idea, I might add that  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So bascially on the servers you play you are allowed to revenge TK?  Without penalty that is...?

<span id='postcolor'>

If USA can kill people for killing people, then we can TK people for TKing people  

Nah but seriously, I think that this way people will think more before they shoot. Normaly someone TKs and he doesnt suffer from it so it doesnt baughter him too much. This way he could be punnished, wich might make him think twice.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">EDIT: Remove weapons.... rofl, that's something

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I think Im gonna use this one pretty much  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You sure you okay today?

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bah, I just don't like that whole idea.  I need some sleep.  Been up for 16 hours today... haven't gotten much sleep lately.  Crap!  Man, i'm goin to bed now.. have to get up in 6 hours! Grrr      

edit:  Moron me, cant even count. 9:30 now... 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5:30 thats... 8 hours.  Ohh wow a full nights sleep.

Edited by Harnu on Jan. 14 2003,04:17

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Besides adding an option to do nothing (accidental TKs happen), I would add something that combines removing all weapons and setting the damage to .95 or something like that.

That way, the bastard will have to crawl around unarmed until someone puts him out of his misery.  

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If you dont want to punnish the guy you can just press the CLOSE button. I think setdamage 0.95 doesnt make him crawl, just easier to kill. I remember I did setdamage 0.999675 or something like that and the guy was standing up red, then when I shot 1 meter beside him on the ground he died  

[InqWiper 0]

By the way....has anyone actually tried this with like 6+ people yet?

[Die Alive 0]

Ok, good idea, some questions....

If I TK 2 or more ppl at the same time (grenade kills 2 of my team mates, I law a jeep with 3 of my team in it, I crash a chopper with 4 of my team in it...) what happens? Do all the ppl that got TKed get to revenge the TK on that person, all at the same time (think 4 ppl using the "Freefall" and the guy ends up 4000m in the air)

Also, and this is pretty rare in MP, at least it only happened to me twice, I'm a tank commander, my clumsy stupid human gunner kills a team mate, and I get charged for the TK, even tho I did not shoot the gun, I was just the commander along for the ride. Why should I be punished? And if a camcrate Heat73 shell is selected, and the tank is destroyed and the clumsy stupid human gunner is killed, then will I be charged for that TK or will the person who selected the explosion option be charged with that TK?

Questions, questions, questions.

-=Die Alive=-

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Die Alive @ Jan. 14 2003,15:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, and this is pretty rare in MP, at least it only happened to me twice, I'm a tank commander, my clumsy stupid human gunner kills a team mate, and I get charged for the TK, even tho I did not shoot the gun, I was just the commander along for the ride. Why should I be punished?<span id='postcolor'>

Lol, really, you are the commander? It can be argued that you should be responsible.

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

If you crash a helo full of friendlys you are charged w/ a tk also.....

maybe something better would be were you get sent to "prison" w/out weapons and such for say......3 min then you die and respawn in your base

[Lt_Dan_Sweden 0]

Hi

Wiper eventhough you spent many hours developing this scipt i'm too lazy to test it, can you descibe what happens if:

a)

or

b)

is done? Please email me since I don't have time to follow Chat forums..

JUST KIDDING!!!

Thanks for a great script.

Its a blast using it, and it works great. I have uploaded it on our IM SWEC server and will make it deafault missions asap.

PS we played, used it for fun, and there was at least one TK-by mistake, that the Killed player, chose not to revenge, since it was a pure misstake, including a verbal pardon by the TKer. DS

[InqWiper 0]

If on person kills 4 people he can be punnished by all 4.

He wount be set to 4000 meters though because he is set there by:

UnitName setpos [getpos UnitName select 0,getpos UnitName select 1,1000]

he could however be set to 1000 again just before he hits the ground making him stay in the air longer

With setvelocity the guy could be tossed further but never faster than [-50,50,50] or what it was.

If you crash a vehicle with friendlies inside I think you wount get punnished. The cript checks for who hit the guy who got killed. If the guy is hit buy a chopper its unlikely that the chopper pilot will get punnished unless he is still in the chopper and it says that they were killed by him.

Tanks are not destroyed by Sabot 73, especially since its created at gound level and doesnt hit the vehicle.

If you are inside the tank that Tks someone I suggest you get Ur ass outta there because the vehicle will be punnished, not the persons in it.

Gotta say freefall looked pretty damn funny on a BMP, fell 100 meters, it looked really wrong

Anyway there is a bug in this thing. When you crash a chopper the dialog will come up and say TEAMKILLED BY: Error: no unit.

The funny thing is that I have added

?isnull Elaking:exit

to the start of the script and that deosnt prevent it. So I was thinking of fixing this bug by checking for unit rating

?Rating Elaking==0:exit

Since its very unlikely that the guy will have 0 rating when he has killed anything this should not be a problem (I could also set everyones rating to 1 or something at the start. Hopefully vehicles dont get ratings wich I really doubt that they do ). Anyway I dont know how fast the rating thing works. I dont know if the rating will be added before the script is run, but I will have to test it. It worked when I tried alone, but so did alot of things that didnt work with players

There should be no problem checking for rating as long as vehicles dont get rating and I just addrating 1 to all soldiers.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hi

Wiper eventhough you spent many hours developing this scipt i'm too lazy to test it, can you descibe what happens if:

a)

or

b)

is done? Please email me since I don't have time to follow Chat forums..

JUST KIDDING!!!

Thanks for a great script.

Its a blast using it, and it works great. I have uploaded it on our IM SWEC server and will make it deafault missions asap.

PS we played, used it for fun, and there was at least one TK-by mistake, that the Killed player, chose not to revenge, since it was a pure misstake, including a verbal pardon by the TKer. DS <span id='postcolor'>

Forgot to say.

The reason the vehicle is punnished and not the guy who shot is because when it wasnt like that it would say that the guy in the vehcicle killed me but it would punnish me. If punnishing the vehicle is too bad solution im gonna try more to make it work to punnish just the person (might try this anyway).

I suggest you try not to be in the same vehicle as people who TK alot or pray that the TKed will have mercy