Independence lost lives!

[camper 0]

Are you sure that those screens are from OFP2? I don't think so

[SFG 1]

I think your confused with Maddox's RTS game.

[PiNs_Da_Smoka 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (camper @ Dec. 20 2002,15:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Are you sure that those screens are from OFP2? I don't think so  <span id='postcolor'>

No, of course those aren't from OFP2. If you read the captions or whatever, they say that those are screens of them actual "programming" the terrain in the original.

[BBSmith 0]

Smoka's right..

[ale2999 0]

LOL I got that magazine, and it was talking how bis did great their ai and how they were evovlving it. The other one they were talking about publisher ie codemasters so not bis

[BBSmith 0]

LEAST THEY MENTIONED OPERATION FLASHPOINT 2!

[Hit_Sqd_Maximus 0]

maybe I missed it, but all I saw was some ancient information on how AI sees things or something.

[VXR 9]

yeah, i didnt see anything about OFP2 also

[ExtracTioN 0]

Can someone of BIS explain us that Independence Lost is OFP2 or is it another project that we can can in 2003 and OFP in 2004/2005

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ Dec. 28 2002,19:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can someone of BIS explain<span id='postcolor'>

Wishful thinking.

[ExtracTioN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Dec. 28 2002,19:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ Dec. 28 2002,19:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can someone of BIS explain<span id='postcolor'>

Wishful thinking.<span id='postcolor'>

LOLOL theavonlady

[ADOY 0]

What are these arrows and can BIS plz in the future add an option toggle to show them for the SP missions.

One problem I have always had with OF is what is the damage health of the AI I am fighting,..., versus in the real-world I could visually estimate my opponent's health.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ADOY @ Dec. 30 2002,11:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What are these arrows<span id='postcolor'>

That looks like a development picture from way back when.

I recall seeing those in the Press Kit released by Codemasters before OFP was released.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> and can BIS plz in the future add an option toggle to show them for the SP missions.<span id='postcolor'>

Now that would make OFP a real fanatasy game wouldn't it!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">One problem I have always had with OF is what is the damage health of the AI I am fighting,..., versus in the real-world I could visually estimate my opponent's health.<span id='postcolor'>

Not sure what you're saying. You want a health meter for your opponents? Is it too much or too little to see the blood soaked uninform of the enemy you just shot who can only retreat on his belly? Is this real or unreal in your opinion?

[ralphwiggum 6]

my guess is that that is forrest object. there is a tree object around it, and from the looks of those pillars i say they are those coniferous(?) trees from forrest model.

[VXR 9]

I think the arrows are just the coding of the AI, the forest and other things like houses have a different coding, the arrown tell the AI the best way to walk over the terrain.

[iNeo 0]

Yeah, I think I've seen those pics at flashpoint1985.com, with explainations like Vixer's

[SpeedyDonkey 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote

One problem I have always had with OF is what is the damage health of the AI I am fighting,..., versus in the real-world I could visually estimate my opponent's health.

Not sure what you're saying. You want a health meter for your opponents? Is it too much or too little to see the blood soaked uninform of the enemy you just shot who can only retreat on his belly? Is this real or unreal in your opinion?

<span id='postcolor'>Mabey he is saying that a soldier shouldnt die after a few shots in the leg directly?

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpeedyDonkey @ Dec. 31 2002,13:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mabey he is saying that a soldier shouldnt die after a few shots in the leg directly?<span id='postcolor'>

Bullets going in the leg can wiggle around and come out from the shoulder. Furthermore, I'm sure that if you hit the main artery in the leg, one can easily bleed to death in no time at all.

I'd post sample pics but the moderators would faint and who would maintain law and order then?!

The whole concept of bullet entry and exit points was once discussed at length, possibley on the old OFPN forums.

/ouch - cant memory map old ofpn forum

[TaNK_Em 0]

Hmm im totaly lost i dont get my hopes high tell Suma or someone tells whats going on...

[Goeth 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Dec. 31 2002,12:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bullets going in the leg can wiggle around and come out from the shoulder.<span id='postcolor'>

You must be talking about JFK case

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Goeth[kyllikki] @ Jan. 01 2003,04:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Dec. 31 2002,12:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bullets going in the leg can wiggle around and come out from the shoulder.<span id='postcolor'>

You must be talking about JFK case <span id='postcolor'>

His case got hit by bullets, too?

[Chronicles 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mabey he is saying that a soldier shouldnt die after a few shots in the leg directly? <span id='postcolor'>

Pain can lead into a heartattack , not all kind of pain , but people with a bad health at this time , exhausted or just unlucky at this time can be subject to the heartattack.

So i see no problems when in the game i shoot 4-5 time on the feet of an AI guy and then he dies : he just had an (AI) heart attack due to major pain by vicious bullet going through his feet multiple time .

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Chronicles @ Jan. 02 2003,16:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So i see no problems when in the game i shoot 4-5 time on the feet of an AI guy and then he dies<span id='postcolor'>

Appropriate reading.

[suchey 0]

There really is no alternative...if you shoot someone in the foot 4 or 5 times their foot is gone...(or at least reduced to a stringy shred of flesh...a man missing a foot isnt going to be combat effective...the only alternative to not making the guy die is to have him lay there in the field until someon comes and picks him up for an evac...I certainly dont want to wriggle around in the field forever. Perhaps the alternative is to introduce a bleeding system...whereby a soldier will have X ammount of time before he bleeds to death/enters cardiac arrest from shock unless a medic treats him. Thats about the only solution I can see.

[theavonlady 2]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Suchey @ Jan. 02 2003,18:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">if you shoot someone in the foot 4 or 5 times their foot is gone<span id='postcolor'>

One of my points above was that if you shoot someone and severe their leg's femoral artery, there's a good likelyhood that the person will bleed to death.

Another point of mine was that a high velocity bullet's entry and exit points may be in completely different areas of the body. So someone could be shot in the leg, with the bullet yawwing through their body tissue and come out of the shoulder, back or elsewhere.