The "what do i do" co op gamer.

[peanuckle_00 0]

I notice sometimes in serious no respawn missions that some guys who even get a plan are still like what do we do when the plan is real clear. I mean I'm talking at the plan and briefing screen. Some people even refuse to read the plan. Some gamers know the plan then get in the game and have no idea what to do or where to go at start. I call that shell shock, and its similiar to and untrained soldier in the battlefield. Undisciplined even. Man i get so pumped from the plan and briefing that if I got time before my first kill im using my logic and getting into it. Some guys are just cracking jokes n stuff trying to raise the group morale. Sometimes way too far, like into the firefight they're using all kinds of funny audio files n stuff. I call that the non serious guy. He usually stays to the rear and doesn't kill much. The "What do I do gamers" usually end up missing crucial info because they rush the group to go too fast. They're always saying go go go and by the time the mission is on they have no clue. So to all you shell shock guys out there first never say go go go. Second read the plan and notes till you know the basic goal and path in your mind. Next, when the firing is over and you got time to kill, go back to the map and memorize the path to the next spot just in case. In other words, use your time wisely. If you know the route, check your compass and memorize your direction the whole mission. Nothing is more valuable to a co op than a wise player.

[Harnu 0]

Another case of the public server blues.

In coops I read the mission plan. And I do crack a lot of jokes, but I don't have audio files. But think of it this way, the people who don't know what they are doing make good bullet magnets.

[KeyCat 131]

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Nothing is more valuable to a co op than a wise player.

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True!

I may be very wrong but my experince tells me that it's an age thing. Usually I have my best OFP gaming experinces with people at age 25 and up. I'm not saying that all young ones are impatient and yell "go go go" but they seems to be in majority.

On the other hand the kidz usually kick my a$$ in MOHAA the few times I played it.... Guess I'm just to old for that fast paced kinda sh*t even if it's fun for about 10 minutes now and then  

/Christer (a.k.a KeyCat)

[joltan 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Harnu @ Dec. 19 2002,04:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In coops I read the mission plan. And I do crack a lot of jokes, but I don't have audio files. But think of it this way, the people who don't know what they are doing make good bullet magnets.<span id='postcolor'>

Or they fuck up the whole mission - there are missions where you have to follow some basic plan outlaid in the briefing (remain undetected, synchronize your actions with other units, prepare an ambush, find - not kill! - a certain person, avoid destroying/killing certain persons/objects/vehicles). If you have enough regulars it's no problem, but if there are too many noobs there's certain missions (especially ambushes) that may be completely unplayable because there's ALWAYS someone fucking up....

[Skunk Monkey 0]

hehe

I think we all know what you mean I guess you posted here to vent some fustration, feel free to play on our coop server with people who know the maps and plan and love teamwork.

[Major Fubar 0]

It can be very hard to get a good coop game on a public server...I prefer LAN sessions when I can get them.

Communication can also be a problem, unless using voice over net. By the time you type a message to someone, it's often too late.

[ralphwiggum 6]

when i used to play Bridge to Freedom, on public servers, some noob would mess up, despite repeated orders to hold fire.

one time i was visiting a clan server for coop, and it was perfect. great teamwork, well communicating team, and did not ignore me just because i was not a member.

[HellToupee 0]

i like ones with reaspawn, but not where u die, i like my coops to last along time and have them very hard, but no matter how good u can be u can always be killed, in my coop its quite liked by ppl, lt dammage even put it under his recommended, u start at a camp with a few cars and trucks, its a long walk to get anywhere, so ppl dont behave like rambos and yet dont get board when they die.

[Major Fubar 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Dec. 21 2002,04:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">when i used to play Bridge to Freedom, on public servers, some noob would mess up, despite repeated orders to hold fire.

one time i was visiting a clan server for coop, and it was perfect. great teamwork, well communicating team, and did not ignore me just because i was not a member.<span id='postcolor'>

Same would happen to me every time I've played that mission online...someone ALWAYS fires when the bus is miles away...and the players with pistols can't do shit.

[Rexxenexx 0]

Damn where are U guys when I'm playing!!!  

Nothings better than working as a TEAM and everyone having around the same score. I always get one or two monkey nutz running around trying to rack up the enemy troops only to die and have the enemy flank the rest of us phehehhe

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

I was on this French server a week or two ago, and boy, was I impressed

They were really professional, discussing the mission in detail before greening up, made sure I knew what I was supposed to do (I was the FNG that didn't speak a word of French, after all) and then we started.

The way they played, really professional. Covering each others advances. Using hills to protect and shield the chopper from ground fire. Holding fire until everyone was in position. Keeping me in the back (I was medic) and only calling me forward when someone was injured, knowing that I was one of their most important assets.

Before assaulting a small hill, we made plans at the base of the hill. Then we covered each other's advance. Then when we reached the final bush, ran through the plan again (lob grenade, on impact charge, M16 set to burst) to make sure I knew how it was gonna go, and it went smooth as baby oil!

Respect to the French server+players

[Guest BratZ]

Wow sounds like some fun times being had by alot.Unfortunately I have not played MP OFP in a long time and you guys would apparantly hate me.I do know the missions tho and I do play Tribes2 online alot with a clan and twl etc... and I understand good teamplay.

I sure am missing some fun, I mainly play OFP single and lan games

[LowLevelFunctionary 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ Dec. 22 2002,00:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was on this French server a week or two ago, and boy, was I impressed

They were really professional, discussing the mission in detail before greening up, made sure I knew what I was supposed to do (I was the FNG that didn't speak a word of French, after all) and then we started.

The way they played, really professional. Covering each others advances. Using hills to protect and shield the chopper from ground fire. Holding fire until everyone was in position. Keeping me in the back (I was medic) and only calling me forward when someone was injured, knowing that I was one of their most important assets.

Before assaulting a small hill, we made plans at the base of the hill. Then we covered each other's advance. Then when we reached the final bush, ran through the plan again (lob grenade, on impact charge, M16 set to burst) to make sure I knew how it was gonna go, and it went smooth as baby oil!

Respect to the French server+players <span id='postcolor'>

Sounds like a lot of fun. I really got to find this server because my intestines are screaming for more cooperation French people never cease to amaze eh?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I notice sometimes in serious no respawn missions that some guys who even get a plan are still like what do we do when the plan is real clear. I mean I'm talking at the plan and briefing screen. Some people even refuse to read the plan. Some gamers know the plan then get in the game and have no idea what to do or where to go at start. I call that shell shock, and its similiar to and untrained soldier in the battlefield. Undisciplined even. Man i get so pumped from the plan and briefing that if I got time before my first kill im using my logic and getting into it. Some guys are just cracking jokes n stuff trying to raise the group morale. Sometimes way too far, like into the firefight they're using all kinds of funny audio files n stuff. I call that the non serious guy. He usually stays to the rear and doesn't kill much. The "What do I do gamers" usually end up missing crucial info because they rush the group to go too fast. They're always saying go go go and by the time the mission is on they have no clue. So to all you shell shock guys out there first never say go go go. Second read the plan and notes till you know the basic goal and path in your mind. Next, when the firing is over and you got time to kill, go back to the map and memorize the path to the next spot just in case. In other words, use your time wisely. If you know the route, check your compass and memorize your direction the whole mission. Nothing is more valuable to a co op than a wise player.

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I see you have created some new terms there

[peanuckle_00 0]

ronin stories like yours gimme a fresh new look at what adventures i could have. I think I'm going to start a clan called green berets. Only thing is it'll be hard to find U.S.A. soldiers with berets on.

[Jinef 2]

When i'm infantry i usually bring up the rear as a medic supporting everyone or even better a mortar guy. I will have read the plan thoroughly and then i will get into a position where i watch everyone else and when someone needs suppressing fire or a bunch of guys come out of a house and are ready to kill all my squad - a mortar comes out of nowhere and saves them all but no one recongnises it. I will always have the lower score on MP games but it doesn't bother me. I wish some people were more mature though.

[peanuckle_00 0]

There's more kids than adults playing the game. Just the other day i read some kid say, "Wow, 21? There's not many people that age that play." Heartbreaking.

[Skunk Monkey 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (peanuckle_00 @ Dec. 28 2002,23:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There's more kids than adults playing the game.  Just the other day i read some kid say, "Wow, 21?  There's not many people that age that play."  Heartbreaking.<span id='postcolor'>

I Disagree, most gamers that i play with are not kids. I do play Coop and not CTF which is where most of kids probably are, Coop gamers tend to want to get more out of the Sim-mode game (no-respawn) and have more patience waiting for games once dead, hence not many kids.

Our Squad has people from 12-44 with the average age being about 30.

[benu 1]

I have to agree with Skunk Monkey, most players are older. Most players i meet are older than 30.

If there are players who mess up coop although being told the plan i make sure they don't play on my server again. If i tell all players during briefing that it is a stealth mission and all have to hold fire and some player thinks it's fun to shoot in the air at the start of the mission then it's time to say goodbye for him.

We had a game yesterday where the first five casualties were because of teamkill... No one of my regular players was one, only public players i had not played with before. Man, that sucked. The one guy kept throwing grenades into his own team. Everyone except him was were the leader had told us to go. I told him 3 times to stop it and healed at the medic twice. Then i shot him while he lobbed the 4th or 5th grenade at me and the medic and all of us 3 were dead

I often play teamleader so i can give orders, like get down, move there, attack that. Sadly, most public players don't listen to orders. What's worse, when THEY are leader, they don't give any orders. The leader is most important cause he gets all the information. He can see whether all soldiers are in the truck already or not or where they are, he can assign targets that some other soldier spotted, etc.

Luckily, the missions played with my regulars compensate more than enough for the public play

[peanuckle_00 0]

The players I really appreciate are the ones who are actually in the yellow box provided to be in formation. That shows me that theyr'e ready to take orders and that I should be ready to accept the responsibility for them losing, which I am. When things get ugly its okay to take effective cover or concealment though, that I will accept as good leader should.