Tanelorn 0 Posted March 20, 2003 >>> === ATTENTION: === <<< I am listening to CNN radio, and somebody isn't paying attention because behind the normal pre-recorded broadcasts I can hear a reporter talking to Atlanta. SHe's on a carrier somewhere in the region. She has reported that 7 aircraft are returning to the carrier after dropping bombs. As she is talking she is reporting more planes taking off. Is this the beginning of the air war? Possibly. There's definitely activity and I don't think this is being reported on the networks yet. >> update << The aircraft carrier is the U.S.S Abraham Lincoln Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanelorn 0 Posted March 20, 2003 HellFish I doubt they are FROGs because air patrols took out artillery threats to troops near the border already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 20, 2003 I'm not saying they were, I'm not saying they weren't. I'm only saying it's possible. Â But it would jive with what we've heard about smaller missiles hitting in northern Kuwait. Either that, or they were Katyushas. Any way you look at it, though, we obviously didn't get all of their artillery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted March 20, 2003 I think I saw eariler today on the television that one of the US missles hit a Iraqi Customs Office.....Good job? Several were injured and I beleived only one dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DracoPaladore @ Mar. 20 2003,15:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think I saw eariler today on the television that one of the US missles hit a Iraqi Customs Office<span id='postcolor'> That's what the Iraqi's said. Besides, what did the other 39 Tomahawks hit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 US chopper crash earlier today. All safe. And that previous story about the Cessna crash is nowhere in site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Mar. 20 2003,15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not saying they were, I'm not saying they weren't.<span id='postcolor'> Debka is now stating they were Frogs and Scuds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 Why do my people have to stick their noses into everyone elses business? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mar. 20, 2003 Jewish man may have saved unborn Saddam By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS A University of Haifa expert on Iraq, Amatzia Baram, believes a Jewish man ultimately saved Saddam Hussein's life by convincing his mother not to kill herself when she was pregnant with the future Iraqi dictator. 85-year-old Nassima Karush, whose story first appeared in a 1991 Israeli newspaper interview, relates how Saddam's mother, Subha, had watched her first-born son die of what doctors said was cancer. Depressed from the death, she didn't want to live and tried several times to kill herself and her unborn child, Saddam. Karush, who immigrated from Iraq to Israel in 1951, said Wednesday she remembers her sister-in-law's husband, Sallim Zirha, convincing Saddam's mother not to commit suicide. Zirha was a trader with Saddam's father, Hussein al-Majid, who died shortly after his wife became pregnant with Saddam.<span id='postcolor'> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 20 2003,07:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Mar. 20 2003,15:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not saying they were, I'm not saying they weren't.<span id='postcolor'> Debka is now stating they were Frogs and Scuds.<span id='postcolor'> I knew that because I'm so keenly in tune with the world around me. A whisper in my head said "FROG". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Mar. 20 2003,16:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A whisper in my head said "FROG".<span id='postcolor'> Heard any good lottery numbers lately? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 20, 2003 12, 17, 21, 15, 7 and 3 And what's it like in Israel, now? I mean... is life going on kind of like normal? Is it obvious when you look out your windows that something is happening? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Mar. 20 2003,16:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And what's it like in Israel, now? I mean... is life going on kind of like normal?<span id='postcolor'> Pretty normal. Kids all went to school with their gas masks. Some Tel Avivians headed south to Eilat for an off-season vacation. Otherwise, everything's open and running. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it obvious when you look out your windows that something is happening?<span id='postcolor'> Yes. It's raining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 20, 2003 Its just been mentioned that 2 of the missiles were antiship. If so that might make them Silkworms. I know Iran has quite a few of those, but I'm not sure about Iraq's inventory. As for the Scuds and FROG's, I hope the Block 3 Patriots actually hit them this time round. Their success rate in 91 was close to 5%. Shame the media hasn't twigged to this. They keep thinking they are dedicated anti-ballistic missiles, when they are only upgraded SAM's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 20 2003,16:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Shame the media hasn't twigged to this.<span id='postcolor'> Last week we watched a US news report (60 Minutes? I don't remember) all about how lousy the Patriots were and might still be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 20, 2003 Glad someone noticed. I think the problem is with the average journalists. Their knowledge of Military tech is not the best around. 'Here we see F-16 scrambling for another exericise' It's a bloody F-15 fools! And its not scrambling! It's bloody taxing! Etc...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (theavonlady @ Mar. 20 2003,08:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it obvious when you look out your windows that something is happening?<span id='postcolor'> Yes. It's raining.<span id='postcolor'> ROFL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 20 2003,08:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Its just been mentioned that 2 of the missiles were antiship. If so that might make them Silkworms. I know Iran has quite a few of those, but I'm not sure about Iraq's inventory. As for the Scuds and FROG's, I hope the Block 3 Patriots actually hit them this time round. Their success rate in 91 was close to 5%. Shame the media hasn't twigged to this. They keep thinking they are dedicated anti-ballistic missiles, when they are only upgraded SAM's.<span id='postcolor'> I heard this about the ASMs as well, except they were "Seersucker" type missiles instead of Silkworms. See here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Hellfish6 @ Mar. 20 2003,16:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And what's it like in Israel, now? I mean... is life going on kind of like normal?<span id='postcolor'> I forgot. This is the most major impact the war has on Israel up to now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted March 20, 2003 www.debka.com : "Kuwait correspondent reports from sources with the US 3rd Infantry Division on the Kuwait-Iraq border: The surrender of the Iraqi 11th and 51st divisions is under negotiation with US military officers and is expected in the coming hours. The two divisions represent two-thirds of the Iraqi army in the south. " Any confirmation for this elsewhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Mar. 20 2003,17:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Any confirmation for this elsewhere?<span id='postcolor'> We were hearing these reports here about 10 hours ago. How long does it take to surrender? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 20, 2003 So then, where are those WMD's and huge chemical/scud attacks on Israel... It may just be that the coalition of criminals may turn out to look like the big world clowns, with almost no real resistance and no WMD capabilities other than on their own side. But we will see what happens in the cities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr. Duck 0 Posted March 20, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Mar. 20 2003,16:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So then, where are those WMD's and huge chemical/scud attacks on Israel... Â It may just be that the coalition of criminals may turn out to look like the big world clowns, with almost no real resistance and no WMD capabilities other than on their own side. Â Â But we will see what happens in the cities.<span id='postcolor'> If he has any they doubt that Saddam will use em in the early stage of the war. I mean, didn't France said something like "if they use chemical/biological/nuclear then France would join the fight"? But hey, what do I know, you're right, let's just wait and see what will happen in the next days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted March 20, 2003 "It may just be that the coalition of criminals may turn out to look like the big world clowns, with almost no real resistance and no WMD capabilities other than on their own side." There wont be much fighting until the Republican Guard is reached. Large portions of the Iraqi army consists of people being forced into service. Many of them are Kurds. They will not put up much of a fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crewcutkid 0 Posted March 20, 2003 Just want to toss in my two cents: Let's just keep the thought of the U.S., British, and Anzac troops in our hearts, and let's also remember that we need to stay vigilant, wherever we are. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance -Crew P.S. Avon, I'm praying for everyone in Israel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLight 0 Posted March 20, 2003 I am still confused that one man gets what he wants while the whole world protests against it. It's a crazy world we live in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
