Are you a hunter?

[Jester983 0]

woah woah woah guys. Can we please stick to the topic. This is about hunting. Wheter you like hunting or not. This is not about bull fighting and what horrible things they do to them.

If you feel the need to talk about how cruel people are to bulls please take it to another thread/place. Id like to hear some hunting stories. Not what they do to bulls to piss them off.

Thanks.

[Lazarus_Long 0]

I never had the opportunity to go out hunting, but I have many friends who seem to enjoy it.  For you anti-hunters in here, I really don't see what the big deal is.  As long as it's done responsibly with the proper respect for mother nature I don't have a problem with it.

Down here in the Florida panhandle where we have a bit of a redneck overpopulation problem, hunting can get downright dangerous.  The designated hunting areas get very crowded during deer season and it is not uncommon for hunters to get themselves shot in the cross-fire.  This is the main reason why I haven't tried hunting yet.

I'd love to go bird hunting someday.  Ducks and Pheasants specifically.  My old neighbour from way back brought home some pheasants that he shot one weekend and it had to be the most delicious thing I had ever eaten.  Game ducks are also incredible if they are cooked the right way and served with some orange or rasberry sauce.  I'm getting hungry just thinking about it.  

Bird shooting seems kind of like skeet shooting, which I have done before and enjoyed thouroughly.  Next time I visit my friend in Minnesota during duck season I'll have to talk him into bringing me with him.

[Blake 0]

I have nothing against hunting but the firepower of modern firearms don't give any chance to the prey. What's the point of shooting deer with semi-automatic rifle with 15x sniper scope from something like 500 meters away when you could use iron sights instead for some challenge. Some people still actually hunt with blackpowder rifles with the 'one shot, one kill or nothing' attitude.

But maybe we'll be settle our scores with the nature in OFP as the secret of animating things is discovered and rabbits etc. might become possible. I'd use the Kozlice in that case

[Balschoiw 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">respect for mother nature <span id='postcolor'>

doesnt fit with hunting as a "sport" does it ? I doubt it is a sport anyway. Where is the challenge to shoot deer scoped from a Highstand ? It´s bloodlust and trophy collecting nothing else. As mentioned before only 5 percent of hunting is done for population control and other reasnable reasons. The rest is "fun" bloodsports.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it is not uncommon for hunters to get themselves shot in the cross-fire<span id='postcolor'>

This is what I call natural selection

The ones who are to dumb get shot by the ones that are to dumb to shoot.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Nov. 05 2002,10:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have nothing against hunting but the firepower of modern firearms don't give any chance to the prey. What's the point of shooting deer with semi-automatic rifle with 15x sniper scope from something like 500 meters away when you could use iron sights instead for some challenge. Some people still actually hunt with blackpowder rifles with the 'one shot, one kill or nothing' attitude.

But maybe we'll be settle our scores with the nature in OFP as the secret of animating things is discovered and rabbits etc. might become possible. I'd use the Kozlice in that case <span id='postcolor'>

......semi-automatic? Is that legal in US?

In Norway thats illegal. Maximum 3 rounds and bolt action are allowed. Same goes for shotguns. The hunting test and course are also very difficult to pass. Many fail.

I don't know about safety and hunters ethics in other countries though, but here in Norway there is a strict code aobut clean killings. If animals are not outright killed and only wounded you have to call for a backup with certified dog to follow the the track of the injured animal. You will also be put under investigation by the police. It is not unusual for hunters to be charged by the authoroties - and if you are found guilty you lose your right to hunt as well as the right to keep arms. Irresponsible hunters also receieve big fines - several thousands of kroners.

[168GRN HPBT 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PitViper @ Nov. 03 2002,21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">gee. How'd I guess this would end in a "bash the hunter" type ordeal?  <span id='postcolor'>

yep I give up , I love my pass time, and thats I give a stuff about

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">......semi-automatic? Is that legal in US?<span id='postcolor'>

Why wouldn't it be?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In Norway thats illegal. Maximum 3 rounds and bolt action are allowed. Same goes for shotguns. The hunting test and course are also very difficult to pass. Many fail.

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That's what you get from a leftist pinko-commie government, high taxes and no rights. It's sad to say that things are becoming that way in Canada as well.

Besides, magazine caps are pointless.

Tyler

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 06 2002,08:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">......semi-automatic? Is that legal in US?<span id='postcolor'>

Why wouldn't it be?

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It's like that because one want's to reduce possible "cowboy-mentality" - hunters firing away and not concentrating on a clean kill with one shot.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In Norway thats illegal. Maximum 3 rounds and bolt action are allowed. Same goes for shotguns. The hunting test and course are also very difficult to pass. Many fail.

That's what you get from a leftist pinko-commie government, high taxes and no rights.    It's sad to say that things are becoming that way in Canada as well.

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The strict rules are there for the above mentioned reasons. Most hunters in Norway agree that good hunting ethics benefits the animals. The reason why it is hard to pass the hunters test is to make sure the hunters know what they are doing. Many people have never hunted before and could for example kill a rare bird allready threatened by extinction or kill the a reindeer cow and leaving her two calves starving.

It has nothing to do with your silly remark about pinko-communie government. By the way, the government in Norway is a coalition of the conservative party and the Christian peoples party. (Norway has one thing in common with Iran - both countries are ruled by a priest!  

[Renagade 0]

ARgH hippys have overtaken the forums the days i haven`t been here :o

[DarkLight 0]

Explain please...

PLease tell me you don't mean that anyone that cares about the life of innocent animals is a hippy...

[cybrid 0]

LOL, I forget the guys name but this one U.S. Government official refered to Canada as Soviet Canukistan . Thats pretty well how it is, and the U.S. is getting very tired of Canada's freeloading, mooching attitude towards the military. Damn our pinko commie government

The other thing I wanted to say is, isn't it ironic that a forum that is deticated to a game about a war is so full of anti-killing, anti-war, pinko commie hippies? I mean, what are you all doing playing a war game if war and killing so strongly disgusts you?

Actually I remeber Acclauds reasoning, damn I'll miss that vegan bleeding heart.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cybrid @ Nov. 07 2002,23:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The other thing I wanted to say is, isn't it ironic that a forum that is deticated to a game about a war is so full of anti-killing, anti-war, pinko commie hippies? I mean, what are you all doing playing a war game if war and killing so strongly disgusts you?

Actually I remeber Acclauds reasoning, damn I'll miss that vegan bleeding heart. <span id='postcolor'>

I don't find it ironic at all. I would rather say it's a good thing.

War is actually terrible - it's not a nice party with lots of fun like most twelve year olds tends to think.

Calm down - it's only a game not an ideological statement.

[cybrid 0]

Dude I think your missing the point, how could that not be ironic?

[FallenPaladin 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 05 2002,16:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Nov. 05 2002,10:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have nothing against hunting but the firepower of modern firearms don't give any chance to the prey. What's the point of shooting deer with semi-automatic rifle with 15x sniper scope from something like 500 meters away when you could use iron sights instead for some challenge. Some people still actually hunt with blackpowder rifles with the 'one shot, one kill or nothing' attitude.

But maybe we'll be settle our scores with the nature in OFP as the secret of animating things is discovered and rabbits etc. might become possible. I'd use the Kozlice in that case <span id='postcolor'>

......semi-automatic? Is that legal in US?

In Norway thats illegal. Maximum 3 rounds and bolt action are allowed. Same goes for shotguns. The hunting test and course are also very difficult to pass. Many fail.

I don't know about safety and hunters ethics in other countries though, but here in Norway there is a strict code aobut clean killings. If animals are not outright killed and only wounded you have to call for a backup with certified dog to follow the the track of the injured animal. You will also be put under investigation by the police. It is not unusual for hunters to be charged by the authoroties - and if you are found guilty you lose your right to hunt as well as the right to keep arms. Irresponsible hunters also receieve big fines - several thousands of kroners.<span id='postcolor'>

I think it`s good if the weapons are more precise and stronger, like said before. If you kill something you should make it quick and painless. No torture, instead of that an instant death.

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FallenPaladin @ Nov. 07 2002,23:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 05 2002,16:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Nov. 05 2002,10:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have nothing against hunting but the firepower of modern firearms don't give any chance to the prey. What's the point of shooting deer with semi-automatic rifle with 15x sniper scope from something like 500 meters away when you could use iron sights instead for some challenge. Some people still actually hunt with blackpowder rifles with the 'one shot, one kill or nothing' attitude.

But maybe we'll be settle our scores with the nature in OFP as the secret of animating things is discovered and rabbits etc. might become possible. I'd use the Kozlice in that case <span id='postcolor'>

......semi-automatic? Is that legal in US?

In Norway thats illegal. Maximum 3 rounds and bolt action are allowed. Same goes for shotguns. The hunting test and course are also very difficult to pass. Many fail.

I don't know about safety and hunters ethics in other countries though, but here in Norway there is a strict code aobut clean killings. If animals are not outright killed and only wounded you have to call for a backup with certified dog to follow the the track of the injured animal. You will also be put under investigation by the police. It is not unusual for hunters to be charged by the authoroties - and if you are found guilty you lose your right to hunt as well as the right to keep arms. Irresponsible hunters also receieve big fines - several thousands of kroners.<span id='postcolor'>

I think it`s good if the weapons are more precise and stronger, like said before. If you kill something you should make it quick and painless. No torture, instead of that an instant death.<span id='postcolor'>

We agree!

[Renagade 0]

HIPPIES !!!! and ANIMALS !!!

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Nov. 07 2002,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HIPPIES !!!! and ANIMALS !!!<span id='postcolor'>

I would say you are spamming!

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Norway is a coalition of the conservative party and the Christian peoples party. <span id='postcolor'>

LOL, your 'right-wing' parties are more left-wing than our left-wing parties.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most hunters in Norway agree that good hunting ethics benefits the animals. <span id='postcolor'>

It's no different over here. Sure, we have some people who go around killing indiscriminantly, but we have laws against animal cruelty and hunting out of season too.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's like that because one want's to reduce possible "cowboy-mentality" - hunters firing away and not concentrating on a clean kill with one shot.<span id='postcolor'>

That's just a stereotypical view. Semi-Automatics allow for a quick follow-up shot if the first one misses it's mark.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">U.S. is getting very tired of Canada's freeloading, mooching attitude towards the military. Damn our pinko commie government <span id='postcolor'>

LOL, tell me about it, that's what happens when a bunch of spoiled left-wing lawyers run the Army. I heard today that the Army is spending a few million dollars on a summer dress uniform made from a lighter materiel. Funny, the only people who wear D.U.'s more than never in the summer is the top brass.

Typical

Tyler

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 08 2002,02:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL, your 'right-wing' parties are more left-wing than our left-wing parties.

<span id='postcolor'>

Different continent - different country - different politics - The way I like it!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's no different over here. Sure, we have some people who go around killing indiscriminantly, but we have laws against animal cruelty and hunting out of season too.<span id='postcolor'>

Most countries have laws against animal cruelty but in most countries you also need specific laws against unethical hunting. Of course you have laws against hunting out of season - there wouldn't be anything to hunt if not.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's just a stereotypical view. Semi-Automatics allow for a quick follow-up shot if the first one misses it's mark.<span id='postcolor'>

Bolt-action rifles also allows a quick follow-up shot if you miss or incidentaly hurt the animal. However, the bolt-action rifle are a bit slower to load the next round and thus tends to make you concentrate and consider each shot more carefully.

But I guess we disagree on that.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL, tell me about it, that's what happens when a bunch of spoiled left-wing lawyers run the Army. <span id='postcolor'>

Seems to me you should stop talking about stereotypical views......... Anyway, I don't know what it's like in Canada or US so I'll keep my mouth shut!

[Assault (CAN) 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Seems to me you should stop talking about stereotypical views<span id='postcolor'>

Every person that I've talked to in the forces tells me the same thing, the CF even admitted to these problems with a lack of trust in the leadership. Hell, I have the damn booklet it was written in, wan't me to mail it to you?

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">However, the bolt-action rifle are a bit slower to load the next round and thus tends to make you concentrate and consider each shot more carefully.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes and no. If you shot at a deer with anything and missed it would run away, making a clean shot impossible. You need good shot discipline with any kind of rifle.

Tyler

[Renagade 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 08 2002,02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Nov. 07 2002,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HIPPIES !!!! and ANIMALS !!!<span id='postcolor'>

I would say you are spamming!<span id='postcolor'>

Their hyperlinks incase u were wonderring.U click ur mouse on them and they open up another website with interesting stuff on them

[brgnorway 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes and no. If you shot at a deer with anything and missed it would run away, making a clean shot impossible. You need good shot discipline with any kind of rifle.<span id='postcolor'>

You know - you are partially right. Here in Norway you are allowed to use lever-action rifles (is that the right name for it - like the marlin 44. rifles?) when hunting deer - excactly the same reason as you wrote above.

Does that make us both right then  

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Every person that I've talked to in the forces tells me the same thing, the CF even admitted to these problems with a lack of trust in the leadership. Hell, I have the damn booklet it was written in, wan't me to mail it to you?  <span id='postcolor'>

Please, no booklets for me - I'm having a hard time reading all the damn posts on this forum allready. Mind you - I'm trying to work at the same time  

[168GRN HPBT 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Assault (CAN) @ Nov. 08 2002,03:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">However, the bolt-action rifle are a bit slower to load the next round and thus tends to make you concentrate and consider each shot more carefully.<span id='postcolor'>

Yes and no. If you shot at a deer with anything and missed it would run away, making a clean shot impossible. You need good shot discipline with any kind of rifle.

Tyler<span id='postcolor'>

That’s very true no mater how fast you weapon can fire if you cant hit anything to start with your mega$$ rifle is useless. And yes a blot action rifle dose make you work harder in planning for a 1 shot kill, because you know that the second shot involves cycling the bolt, so you want to make very shot count. But then there is over planning, and your target may just walk off,

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (cybrid @ Nov. 07 2002,00:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dude I think your missing the point, how could that not be ironic?<span id='postcolor'>

Basically because people that play war games are also people who don't want war and innocent life to be spoiled.

Looks rather obvious to me, only a bunch of psychos would want war and killing...

[DarkLight 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Nov. 07 2002,04:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (brgnorway @ Nov. 08 2002,02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Renagade @ Nov. 07 2002,23:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HIPPIES !!!! and ANIMALS !!!<span id='postcolor'>

I would say you are spamming!<span id='postcolor'>

Their hyperlinks incase u were wonderring.U click ur mouse on them and they open up another website with interesting stuff on them <span id='postcolor'>

I think you didn't spell the link very well... I don't see anything interesting....