Will-my-pc-run-Arma3? What cpu/gpu to get? What settings? What system specifications?

[Leon86 13]

Haha! YOU shouldn't comment on things you don't understand.

Since you know so much about it why don’t you explain where this entry says that ARMA needs lots of RAM?

What that entry seems to say to me is that they made a way for the 32-bit version of ARMA back when there was no 64-bit version of ARMA tu se more than 4GB of RAM on 64-bit systems with more than 4GB RAM.

And the highest amounts of RAM mentioned in it is 2-4GB RAM, obviosuly. And saying that 64-bit systems can use more than 4GB RAM which goes without saying.

So how does this translate into different game two sequels and 5 years later using lots and lots of RAM?

I never said arma needs lots of ram, just that it made sense to have it. There still isn't a 64 bit version of arma btw, afaik they're still using this "trick". Anyway, lots of ram is good, I'd recommend 2 dimms of 8GB each for every dualchannel system that supports dimms that large (socket 1155 and newer) and not even consider running just 4GB total.

[Sneakson 1]

I never said arma needs lots of ram, just that it made sense to have it. There still isn't a 64 bit version of arma btw, afaik they're still using this "trick". Anyway, lots of ram is good, I'd recommend 2 dimms of 8GB each for every dualchannel system that supports dimms that large (socket 1155 and newer) and not even consider running just 4GB total.

Didn't know there wasn't a 64-bit version of ARMA. I guess that's why I keep hearing that the game doesn't use much RAM other than the recent Altis-bugparty.

I’m currently using 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM… and I can’t really say I’m noticing anything that feels wrong without having anything else to compare it to. Maybe load times and sometimes texture loading but I have no idea if that will improve with better RAM yet.

Will try out 8/16GB 1600 MHz soon and maybe try switching back to these ones to see what the difference is.

Anyways: more RAM won't hurt (definitely) and may even make a positive difference of one or two frames per second but there's better things to spend an additional $100 on unless your machine is already relatively high-end.

Webhallen are selling 8 computer sets in the price range $1300 to $8000 and starting with the second one at $1500 each one has 16GB RAM… even with a 660 and 120GB SSD without HDD! In that case $100 would be much better spent on a terabyte hard drive or a 660 to 760 upgrade.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Sneakson

[fabio_chavez 103]

what will be the best CPU for arma3 to be available in 2014?

lets say in 3 categories:

-budged (the cheapest possible to decently play arma3)

-performance (whats going to be the i5 4570k equivalent?)

-top end (no matter the price, you cannot have a better CPU than this for arma3)

bonus:

what ram would be the appropriate? i heard ArmA3 i one of the few games where very fast ram is not a complete waste of money?

please give you qualified and well reasoned answer below.

[Leon86 13]

broadwell 4670K equivalent probably, it's haswell shrink, dont expect anything spectacular.

[ric 1]

what will be the best CPU for arma3 to be available in 2014?

lets say in 3 categories:

-budged (the cheapest possible to decently play arma3)

-performance (whats going to be the i5 4570k equivalent?)

-top end (no matter the price, you cannot have a better CPU than this for arma3)

bonus:

what ram would be the appropriate? i heard ArmA3 i one of the few games where very fast ram is not a complete waste of money?

please give you qualified and well reasoned answer below.

is this a completely new build or will you be reusing parts from current system?

budeget chip=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116912

The I3 series with hyper threading are poweful little work horse for there cost.

performance= 4 cores ,haswell and unlocked this is the best bang for buck at the moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

and for you last request i would not be looking for A "best CPU" for arma but the best chip i could get overall if money is no object which of course would be the 6 core ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116491

it would be better if you posted how much you have to spend :) that way the best rig for buck can be spec'd for you :)

[fabio_chavez 103]

i personally am going to replace CPU,RAM,MOBO and power supply...(will keep HD 6970oc for anther year at least) i am not sure wether i am aiming for the best performance/money ratio or if am willing to pay an unreasonably extra amount for 15-20% more performance... depends on the opportunity and if i pay cash or in rates. I usually prefer to buy more expensive and keep longer. (still running a Xeon X3220@2,4ghz on 3,6ghz... it wasnt like the cheapest cpu back then but i guess after almost 7 years, it was a good catch... it ate bf3 and its vailantly carrying on with arma3 but moaning and groaning)

Since i am not intending to buy anything within the next 6 month im might not be particulary intressted in stuff that is already available (hence maybe allready outdated then). One thing that i am also intressted is if its really worth to spend some extra money on fast ram?

but i started the thread also for people to discuss whats going to be available from around second half of 2014. should have been more specific in my initial post.

p.s.

since the arma engine does not seem to profit much from fancy new cpu architecture in general but from bare clock, wouldnt it be possible that some niche cpu could be worth to be considered that would not be attractive for general gamers? like some magic server dual core cpu that can resist 1000°c an therefore be ran at 6ghz or something?

Edited August 28, 2013 by Fabio_Chavez

[sambee99 1]

does anyone think i need to upgrade my computer to be able to run arma 3 alot better or is it not worth it

intel core i7-3820 cpu @3.60 ghz

ram- 8gb

64 bit operating system

gtx 680 nvidia graphics card

i dont have an SSD at the moment but is it really worth it? if so what one?

[KingScuba 1]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

Try researching next time dude. Personally, I have the 3930k.

[fabio_chavez 103]

thats an intressting link, i am more or less aware about the landscape of recently available and upcomming hardware but one thing about it is, there are only really few detailed benchmarks for arma3 available. since we are now closing in for the release and already have more or less the final engine now - therefore unfortunately cannot expect some secretly developed performance boosting engine tweak anymore - i though some pundits are now able to anticipate some tailor-made concepts that firmly rock arma3?

[KingScuba 1]

I googled "Arma 3 benchmark".

found this.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2306250

[fabio_chavez 103]

yes i googled that too, found it too!

last time i checked it where only GPU benchmark though, you get the idea.

[ric 1]

this is depressing.... we don't need intel to have a monopoly...this would be bad for all us :(

http://www.thinkcomputers.org/amd-to-abandon-fx-processors-fx-9590-becomes-final-legacy-of-the-fx-lineup/

[KingScuba 1]

this is depressing.... we don't need intel to have a monopoly...this would be bad for all us :(

http://www.thinkcomputers.org/amd-to-abandon-fx-processors-fx-9590-becomes-final-legacy-of-the-fx-lineup/

considering intel roflstomped the hell out of the FX processors?

[giorgygr 61]

Best CPU will be the Q6600.

I bought it 5-6 years ago and still "playin' without payin' " (if you can catch my drift) ;)

Ok..let's get back to topic nao..

[KingScuba 1]

Didn't know there wasn't a 64-bit version of ARMA. I guess that's why I keep hearing that the game doesn't use much RAM other than the recent Altis-bugparty.

I’m currently using 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 RAM… and I can’t really say I’m noticing anything that feels wrong without having anything else to compare it to. Maybe load times and sometimes texture loading but I have no idea if that will improve with better RAM yet.

Will try out 8/16GB 1600 MHz soon and maybe try switching back to these ones to see what the difference is.

Anyways: more RAM won't hurt (definitely) and may even make a positive difference of one or two frames per second but there's better things to spend an additional $100 on unless your machine is already relatively high-end.

Webhallen are selling 8 computer sets in the price range $1300 to $8000 and starting with the second one at $1500 each one has 16GB RAM… even with a 660 and 120GB SSD without HDD! In that case $100 would be much better spent on a terabyte hard drive or a 660 to 760 upgrade.

it's alot cheaper to build your own. A lot more satisfaction too, since you have to research everything yourself.

does anyone think i need to upgrade my computer to be able to run arma 3 alot better or is it not worth it

intel core i7-3820 cpu @3.60 ghz

ram- 8gb

64 bit operating system

gtx 680 nvidia graphics card

i dont have an SSD at the moment but is it really worth it? if so what one?

You should try overclocking that chip if you can towards 4.2... I don't know if your multipliers are open or not.... You should be fine.

Edited August 29, 2013 by KingScuba

[mordeaniischaos 3]

what will be the best CPU for arma3 to be available in 2014?

lets say in 3 categories:

-budged (the cheapest possible to decently play arma3)

-performance (whats going to be the i5 4570k equivalent?)

-top end (no matter the price, you cannot have a better CPU than this for arma3)

bonus:

what ram would be the appropriate? i heard ArmA3 i one of the few games where very fast ram is not a complete waste of money?

please give you qualified and well reasoned answer below.

Very fast ram is always a complete waste of money. Get DDR3 1600-1800. A fast hard drive would be far, far more useful because of the streaming that the game does and which seems to bring Atlis to it's knees with high visibility.

[ceeeb 147]

yes i googled that too, found it too!

last time i checked it where only GPU benchmark though, you get the idea.

Scroll down for the CPU charts

[da_mike 10]

sysprofile.de/id163236

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T @ 4013.63 MHz Watercooled

4x 2048 MB Corsair (10700) = 8GB Ram

nVidia GeForce GTX 590

Why are the FPS drops from Singleplayer @ all Settings Ultra 35 - 40 FPS to 15-20 @ Multiplayer

My CPU is at 35 percent and my GPU at 14 percent at Multiplayergaming

Anyone a Idea how i can Increase the FPS Rate @ Arma III

I tryed this one at cfg -> But it Brings not the right performande

GPU_MaxFramesAhead=1;

GPU_DetectedFramesAhead=1;

[fabio_chavez 103]

guess what i was implying with "last time i checked"... ;)

ok all of this didnt get me where i wanted to get....

so again:

1. the ram question: aside from pundits that deduce the usefullness of fast ram for arma from what they generally think about ram, i was interessted in specific information, i read from multiple sources that arma3 does INDEED respond and scales to faster ram noticeably. what i didnt get to know anywhere is "why is that?"

here some benchmarks (for i am obviously not the only person who allegedly does not look at benchmarks before posting :D)

http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=54087

2. why isnt there a sticky extra benchmark thread?

[Sneakson 1]

what will be the best CPU for arma3 to be available in 2014?

lets say in 3 categories:

-budged (the cheapest possible to decently play arma3)

-performance (whats going to be the i5 4570k equivalent?)

-top end (no matter the price, you cannot have a better CPU than this for arma3)

bonus:

what ram would be the appropriate? i heard ArmA3 i one of the few games where very fast ram is not a complete waste of money?

please give you qualified and well reasoned answer below.

Absolutely impossible to say.

i personally am going to replace CPU,RAM,MOBO and power supply...(will keep HD 6970oc for anther year at least) i am not sure wether i am aiming for the best performance/money ratio or if am willing to pay an unreasonably extra amount for 15-20% more performance... depends on the opportunity and if i pay cash or in rates. I usually prefer to buy more expensive and keep longer. (still running a Xeon X3220@2,4ghz on 3,6ghz... it wasnt like the cheapest cpu back then but i guess after almost 7 years, it was a good catch... it ate bf3 and its vailantly carrying on with arma3 but moaning and groaning)

Since i am not intending to buy anything within the next 6 month im might not be particulary intressted in stuff that is already available (hence maybe allready outdated then). One thing that i am also intressted is if its really worth to spend some extra money on fast ram?

but i started the thread also for people to discuss whats going to be available from around second half of 2014. should have been more specific in my initial post.

p.s.

since the arma engine does not seem to profit much from fancy new cpu architecture in general but from bare clock, wouldnt it be possible that some niche cpu could be worth to be considered that would not be attractive for general gamers? like some magic server dual core cpu that can resist 1000°c an therefore be ran at 6ghz or something?

You shouldn’t spend more on quicker RAM.

And you can use N2-cooling and overclock to 7 GHz but it’s going to cost you.

does anyone think i need to upgrade my computer to be able to run arma 3 alot better or is it not worth it

intel core i7-3820 cpu @3.60 ghz

ram- 8gb

64 bit operating system

gtx 680 nvidia graphics card

i dont have an SSD at the moment but is it really worth it? if so what one?

SSD is worth it, absolutely. It's a big game changer. Not that it makes much difference on games but buy a Samsung 840 Evo 120GB and you won't regret it.

No need to upgrade the rest at all. Your CPU is close to the better of Haswell and your graphics card is a 770.

You absolutely couldn’t upgrade anything at sane costs right now.

it's alot cheaper to build your own. A lot more satisfaction too, since you have to research everything yourself.

You should try overclocking that chip if you can towards 4.2... I don't know if your multipliers are open or not.... You should be fine.

I didn't say anything about not building it yourself :s I think?

It's cheaper yes but hardly for everyone since researching it can take months and there's a chance of breaking everything if you mess up.

Some people just want to plug and play.

guess what i was implying with "last time i checked"... ;)

ok all of this didnt get me where i wanted to get....

so again:

1. the ram question: aside from pundits that deduce the usefullness of fast ram for arma from what they generally think about ram, i was interessted in specific information, i read from multiple sources that arma3 does INDEED respond and scales to faster ram noticeably. what i didnt get to know anywhere is "why is that?"

here some benchmarks (for i am obviously not the only person who allegedly does not look at benchmarks before posting :D)

http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=54087

2. why isnt there a sticky extra benchmark thread?

Never heard of RAM making a big difference and dunno much about it but 1600 is the general recommendation and probably for a reason.

If quicker RAM makes a 10% difference in ARMA to anyone that’s interesting.

There's no benchmark thread because there's no official benchmark probably?

[bonghu 10]

Hi guys!

I red a lot about amd cpu-s will not run arma 3 smoothly, its kinda boring, so i m gonna give my spec and ask the big question...will my pc run arma3? :butbut:

Amd Fx 6300 (Not yet overclocked, but if its gonna do a really impression i ll do it!)

Asus M5A97 R2.0

Sapphire HD 7870 2GB (Not OC as well)

Corsair vengeance 2x4GB 1333Mhz

And a brand new Deuter Futura 32! (Dont worry about it...)

So, I hope you guys gonna gimme some answers AND no i dont want to play singleplayer, not even a microwar with 10 players. But standard quality would be enough for me! :j:

[jumpinghubert 49]

Fabio_Chavez, the best cpu for arma3 is the 3570k or the older 2500k from intel.....and overclock it to moderate 4,6 ghz or more. Second I bought was 1600er ram and overclocked it to 2000 Mhz. Thats all. The new haswell you can´t overclock very well and the intel six core costs in the cheapest variant 300 Euro more than the 3570k.

@bonghu

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34719486&postcount=4

@sneakson

feel free to click on the linked ram and cpu benchmarks given in the last postings lol

Edited August 29, 2013 by JumpingHubert

[ric 1]

Hi guys!

I red a lot about amd cpu-s will not run arma 3 smoothly, its kinda boring, so i m gonna give my spec and ask the big question...will my pc run arma3? :butbut:

Amd Fx 6300 (Not yet overclocked, but if its gonna do a really impression i ll do it!)

Asus M5A97 R2.0

Sapphire HD 7870 2GB (Not OC as well)

Corsair vengeance 2x4GB 1333Mhz

And a brand new Deuter Futura 32! (Dont worry about it...)

So, I hope you guys gonna gimme some answers AND no i dont want to play singleplayer, not even a microwar with 10 players. But standard quality would be enough for me! :j:

your rig will run A3 :) but i would try to get over 4.2ghz if you can.

[Archosaurus 10]

Anyone got an idea how well Arma 2 and 3 should run on an Ivy Bridge i5-3570K 3.4GHz, MSi GTX670 PE, 8GB DDR3, 2TB Seagate STD3K?

Same setup I have now except the CPU is an i5 650, and Arma games run horribly. I was thinking that upgrading to a modern CPU should fix the whole thing.

[bonghu 10]

your rig will run A3 :) but i would try to get over 4.2ghz if you can.

Thank you, its gonna take time but i ll do it! Hurray i can play ARMA3! :cool:

JumpingHubert: Thank you as well, but these benchmarks...i dunno what these numbers means...:confused: