gliptal 25 Posted March 20, 2013 way, way too expensive for such a rig.True, I hadn't notice the price...I payed a very similar configuration ~700$ one year ago... Where are you buying it? Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 20, 2013 A bit of a blunt answer? I assume that you have assumed that IceCold has limited knowledge and have given him an answer as such? Because clearly an i7 3770k is going to be faster than any i5. The difference in gaming may be minimal, but it is still a stronger CPU. The real question is whether the additional price for an i7 is worth it? If you are going to be doing any video or photo editing, then surely you will want an i7. (A 3770k is pretty cheap anyway) I 3570K is fine for video or photo editing, i7 might be worth it if you do it semi-profesionaly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 20, 2013 I 3570K is fine for video or photo editing, i7 might be worth it if you do it semi-profesionaly. Yep this is true. In the end it is down to user preference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCold_Swede 1 Posted March 20, 2013 Nope, I'd recommend you get the i5. Preferably the 3570K with a decent Z77 board to keep the overclocking option open. Are there any tests done showing that Arma2-3 doesnt use hyper threading? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.Andersson(SWE) 4 Posted March 20, 2013 True, I hadn't notice the price...I payed a very similar configuration ~700$ one year ago... Where are you buying it? Yay! NOOO were did you buy yours..?? :o Im from Sweden, have that in mind... This is the place i buy stuff. http://www.inet.se Most deliverys within 2 days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceCold_Swede 1 Posted March 20, 2013 A bit of a blunt answer? I assume that you have assumed that IceCold has limited knowledge and have given him an answer as such? Because clearly an i7 3770k is going to be faster than any i5. The difference in gaming may be minimal, but it is still a stronger CPU. The real question is whether the additional price for an i7 is worth it? If you are going to be doing any video or photo editing, then surely you will want an i7. (A 3770k is pretty cheap anyway) Yes the i7 is alot faster at many work related tasks but this computer will be a pure gaming machine (i already have a workstation). So its pure arma performance I'm interested in and esp. the lovley arma3. In know the general consencus is that i7 with its hyperthreading is useless for gaming but i have recently seen multiplayer tests on large 64 player servers with battlefield 3 that show large improvements with i7. Thats why i am asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 20, 2013 ;2348457']NOOO were did you buy yours..?? :oIm from Sweden' date=' have that in mind... This is the place i buy stuff. [url']http://www.inet.se[/url] Most deliverys within 2 days... A small computer shop in Northern Italy... XDYay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.Andersson(SWE) 4 Posted March 20, 2013 Well, i guess it would be to expensive to go there and buy it... And using the Pricechecking in swedish, that is the price that makes most sense here...To bad for me. PC: But im glad it will run A3... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 20, 2013 It will not run well. Could use a more powerfull cpu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.Andersson(SWE) 4 Posted March 21, 2013 Are you joking.. 4.2ghz isnt enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 21, 2013 http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2306247 The FX 41xx series doesn't perform well for some reason, the 4300 has an updated memory interface so it performs a lot better. Note this test is without AI, so actually not that dependant on the more complicated cpu operations. In those tests the intel sandy and ivy seem to do much better, at least in previous arma titles, not seen a good test for a3 yet. Realise the FX4xxx series is a budget cpu, you can get it for slightly over 100,- eu where I live. Ghz is only a way to compare cpu's of the same architecture, you can clock a pentium 4 to 4Ghz, still performs like shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trauma.au 10 Posted March 21, 2013 After opinion on upgrade path. I have i5 2500k @3.3ghz (no overclock) GTX560Ti 1Gb (no overclock) Intel 520 Series 120GB SSD It's clear from alpha that either MP with lots of players/NPC in one area is poorly optimized or my PC is just not up to the task. So my question is would I get more out of a new graphics card or more from overclocking my CPU to something like 4.5ghz? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 21, 2013 You'd get most from overclocking the cpu, especially minimum fps should go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gliptal 25 Posted March 21, 2013 After opinion on upgrade path.I have i5 2500k @3.3ghz (no overclock) GTX560Ti 1Gb (no overclock) Intel 520 Series 120GB SSD It's clear from alpha that either MP with lots of players/NPC in one area is poorly optimized or my PC is just not up to the task. So my question is would I get more out of a new graphics card or more from overclocking my CPU to something like 4.5ghz? Yes, I gained about 10-15 FPS going from stock 3.6Ghz to overclocked 4.3Ghz...Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.Andersson(SWE) 4 Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Gawddamn...Hmmm ok... Ill have to look into that then... This the: AMD FX-4300 4C 3.8Ghz Black Edition Would that be a better choice? Or maby go the FX6xxx series... Edited March 21, 2013 by Andersson[SWEC] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 21, 2013 Yes the i7 is alot faster at many work related tasks but this computer will be a pure gaming machine (i already have a workstation). So its pure arma performance I'm interested in and esp. the lovley arma3. In know the general consencus is that i7 with its hyperthreading is useless for gaming but i have recently seen multiplayer tests on large 64 player servers with battlefield 3 that show large improvements with i7. Thats why i am asking. As far as we know, more than 4 cores are essentially wasted on A2 (we'll have to wait for the final product where A3 is concerned). In BF3, there is clear evidence that more cores are better, especially when there are a lot of players. This is a trend that I expect to see increasing as we move into 8/10/12 cores and beyond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) yeah, multiplayer bf3 with object detail at ultra is a real cpu killer http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battlefield-3-PC-221396/Specials/Battlefield-3-Multiplayer-Tipps-CPU-Benchmark-1039293/ there's a small advantage to the i7's, but is 7% faster worth 50% more? if you overclock the i7's only have a 5% advantage, maybe even no advantage if you can clock higher with HT off. I have a sneaking suspicion the 39730K is hitting the gpu bottleneck, or maybe it doesnt really scale that well over 4 cores, the 6300 and 8350 perform pretty much on par and the 4300 isnt even that far behind the 6300. that 4300 isn't a bad chip btw, outperforms the more expensive i3's and is overclockable. Not very efficient at full load if you do that, but hey, how often is that? Edited March 21, 2013 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M.Andersson(SWE) 4 Posted March 21, 2013 Okaj then, 4300 it will be... And with AM3+ motherboard, it might be possible to get an even better when the wallet allows.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 21, 2013 cant you get a 3570k and a 7850 for roughly the same budget? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyBee 8 Posted March 21, 2013 I just bought fx 83xx stock and it is outperforming fx 6300 oc that I had before.very satisfied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadicalAtHeart 11 Posted March 21, 2013 Very playable on a Lenovo Y500 - i5-3210M - GT650M GDDR5 - 5400RPM hard drive I think people should stop crying the game is not playable. My laptop also plays ArmA 2 pretty good on high settings even better than my 2500K. An i5 2.5GHz will simply do fine. SSD is not a necessity as well. I will get one in the end anyways. I still have to test ArmA 3 properly instead of a few seconds. Also going to test PCSX2 with my SOCOM games to test my CPU performance. Don't waste on overclocking it's pointless. I really haven't seen a difference in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince 1 Posted March 22, 2013 Hi. A true rookie here.. I am currently looking to build a PC. I've asked a friend of mine to help me build it because I have know idea what stuff is! Anyway here are the essentials of the build my friend proposed me to get: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC, Windforce 2X, 2048 MB DDR5, DP Intel Core i5-3330 3,0 GHz (Ivy Bridge) Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 - 8GB Kit I hope this can do it.. I am not looking for 50000000 fps on megatron settings. But something decent atleast.. Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EmirSc 10 Posted March 22, 2013 getting this error after last update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 22, 2013 @freshprince maybe you could get an i5-3350p for the same price, slightly faster, should run fine with either. the only significant upgrade that isn't insanly more expensive is a z77 board an a 3570K, because it allows overclocking. gpu is fine as well, arma usually isn't that heavy on the gpu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreshPrince 1 Posted March 22, 2013 Ok thank you for a fast response! I'll look into it. Wow the PC/ArmA gaming community is so friendly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
