Mister Frag 0 Posted October 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Oct. 16 2002,21:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Oct. 16 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and the weapon in OFP is a 9mm.<span id='postcolor'> No it isn't. Look real closely at the model, and you will see that (at least the skin) is from an Ingram chambered for .380 Set it on the ground, and check it out with some binoculars for yourself <span id='postcolor'> You're right. I stand corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted October 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Blake @ Oct. 16 2002,02:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's most definately Remington 700, extracted O_WP.pbo at Res/Addons folder and in contained 'w_Remington.paa' picture file, same one you see as the hunting rifle inventory pic. And the resemblence is evident: http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/700LSSLH.HTM high damage value can be explained by the fact that it can fire also hard-hitting .338 Ultra mag. .30-06 is nearer to 7.62x51 NATO in hitting power. Case closed, maybe... <span id='postcolor'> Hmm, you make a good case. Â But I'm not sure what round the rifle would be chambered for because with large rounds comes reduced magazine capacity. The 'Hunting Rifle' of OFP hold's 6 rounds, 5 in the mag, 1 up the pipe, perhaps? In that case, it might be a .308, or .30-06. Does anyone know the mag cap for each M700 with each type of round? Besides, I think the M-21 in OFP is too weak to begin with. I have repeatedly shot people in the chest at 300m, only to have them run away. The increased power of the hunting rifle is nice. To bad the ammo limit is so low: 6 rounds per ammo slot? Is BIS joking? Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted October 17, 2002 LOL, we've been requesting more inventory space since 1.46- somehow I doubt we will get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted October 17, 2002 Yesterday i was testing it. I put myself on the parkinglot of the church on the hill, the one above the village on the east side of the large bridge on nogova. I then put a squad of russian infantry on the road between the bridge and the village. I was able to take out the entire squad with 12 or so rounds. Pretty accurate and the scope enlargement is ok ... the targets just get small at that range but its quite ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-TU--33ker 0 Posted October 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (supah @ Oct. 17 2002,12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yesterday i was testing it. I put myself on the parkinglot of the church on the hill, the one above the village on the east side of the large bridge on nogova. I then put a squad of russian infantry on the road between the bridge and the village. I was able to take out the entire squad with 12 or so rounds. Pretty accurate and the scope enlargement is ok ... the targets just get small at that range but its quite ok.<span id='postcolor'> i did the same. i set up a soviet squad in the village on the hills north to the factory and had my position in the factory. i shot them all with 10 rounds. The rifle may be slow but because of its power and accuracy it's the best sniper rifle in the game i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJonth Cheeky Monkey 1 Posted October 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Oct. 17 2002,07:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Oct. 16 2002,21:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Oct. 16 2002,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">and the weapon in OFP is a 9mm.<span id='postcolor'> No it isn't. Look real closely at the model, and you will see that (at least the skin) is from an Ingram chambered for .380 Set it on the ground, and check it out with some binoculars for yourself <span id='postcolor'> You're right. I stand corrected.<span id='postcolor'> the 380ACP is a 9mm round, but its the 9mm short not the parabelium (ive never been able to spell that right). I think the 380 ACP is the 9mm Short, correct me if im wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted October 17, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the 380ACP is a 9mm round, but its the 9mm short not the parabelium (ive never been able to spell that right). I think the 380 ACP is the 9mm Short, correct me if im wrong.<span id='postcolor'> Yep. 9x19 = 9mm Parabellum 9x17 = .380 Auto, or 9mm Kurtz Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBGS_Stewart 0 Posted October 17, 2002 i dont think the 6 round ammo size is too far off. at our house we have a remington in a .243 and that holds three rounds in the clip. we also have a Mauser bolt 6.5x55 which use to be a military rifle and that seems to hold 5 shells or so if i reamber correctly. but it is a very powerful round great for hunting deer puts a entering hole inside the skinn of a cig butt. and then the bullet just exploades inside and sending srapnal all over on the inside and knocks them down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2002 Bullet expands because its prolly hollowpoint I used to use them, but I found that over great distances, they arnt as accurate as FMJ, SJ or SvP. My family an I own a few rifles 16gague breaker 12gague pump .22 bolt .22 semi leaver .30-06 bolt (personal fave) .30-06 semi .30-08 bolt .30-30SP leaver and an asortment of bows The Remington 700 is by far the most successful hunting rifle ever made, tho im no big fan of north american made guns(prefer european or middle easter), it is a quality rifle. Â One to watch for is the EtronX with its electronic firing system. Â Unheard of accuracy. A guy I hunt with, he hunts moose with a H&H .375MAG heavy barrel. Â That friggin thing is awsome Last year he got a moose at 475yards, blow a hole the size of a baseball in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Frag 0 Posted October 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Codex @ Oct. 17 2002,18:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bullet expands because its prolly hollowpoint I used to use them, but I found that over great distances, they arnt as accurate as FMJ, SJ or SvP.<span id='postcolor'> A lot of long-range matches are won by guys with hollowpoint bullets. Why? Because they are inherently more accurate than FMJ spitzer bullets. There are two reasons for this: laminar airflow courtesy of the cavity, and a different weight distribution with a center of gravity that is more towards the rear of the bullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2002 highly dependant on cal HP mass expansion is favorable for some velocitys and distances, but not so for others. My personal experience long range target shooting with HP has been unfavorable. Special Weapons Magazine did a nice article on this discussion. Found that MOA performance decreased when rifles used HP. If your using it in, lets say, a 22 or 223 at under 150yards, then yah, its ok, but I find that over that, its better to stay away from HP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lonesoldier 0 Posted October 18, 2002 Is there a chance its a .270? My step dad has one and it looks similar, but his one ahs a ten times louder shot! Fucking loud as hell! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2002 how many of you have actually fired a gun?(toy guns BBs and pelet rifles dont count) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LBGS_Stewart 0 Posted October 18, 2002 i have fired guns  12ga 20ga  .243  .218 bee  .22 hornet .44-40, .38-40, 45 long colt  .45-70 .44mag .45acp colt auto  6.5X55. 220 swift target rifle 22-250   the bullets that where used in the 6.5X55 that desimated the inside of the deer was a jacked soft point. forgot a 0 for the 220 swift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Assault (CAN) 1 Posted October 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">.30-08 bolt<span id='postcolor'> Do you mean .308? </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how many of you have actually fired a gun?(toy guns BBs and pelet rifles dont count)<span id='postcolor'> LOL, that's a bad question to ask on these forums, half of the people here are either current or ex military. As for me: - C7A1: - C9A1 5.56 NATO LMG (FN Minimi) - C6 7.62 NATO GPMG (FN-MAG) - 84mm Carl Gustav, Anti-Tank - 60mm Mortar - M-203 40mm Grenade Launcher - M-72 SRAAW And other assorted shotguns and .22LR's So there. Â Tyler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tovarish 0 Posted October 18, 2002 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Codex @ Oct. 18 2002,04:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">how many of you have actually fired a gun?(toy guns BBs and pelet rifles dont count)<span id='postcolor'> Fired an old bolt action rifle a few times when I was a kid in Cuba, when I was 8 or 9. Used to go to shooting galleries and shoot pellet guns at least every week from the time I was 7 till 10. Now it's paintball guns every couple of months . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex -USMC- 0 Posted October 18, 2002 shotguns, .22s, hunting rifles (mostly 30 ought 6), a Beretta 9mm pistol, an M1 garand once, mini-14, ar-15 and a Colt M1911A1 (very nice) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted October 18, 2002 I 've fired MP-2 (UZI), G-3, MG-3, P-1 (Walther P-38), Pzfst-1(AT-Launcher) and last but not least a 20mm BMK... I own a Taurus 689 .357, a Walther GSP .22, a M-38 6.5x55 with Scope... And OFP handguns are way of, in meansof sound, range and recoil... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 18, 2002 I havents found a game yet that simulates a handgun before. So far The most realistic : Bullet drop goes to = OFP Rifle Aming System goes to = OFP Sniper Rifle aiming system goes to = Deer Hunter 5 (sighting them all in n crap like that) Weapon modle goes to = Counter-Strike Weapon sounds go to = Counter-Strike Animations goes to = Counter-Strike Bullet to enviroment penetration system = Swat3 Bullet to body penetration system = Soilder of Fortune 2 all i can think of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJonth Cheeky Monkey 1 Posted October 18, 2002 The weapon models in Counter strike are not the best, most of them have the extraction ports on the wrong side, pentagon shaped sights etc. The most realistic weapon models I have seen in a game are either in SOF2 or OFP. After seeing most of these weapons in real life then comparing them to the ones in game they are of very good quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denwad 0 Posted October 18, 2002 The AK's selector switch is on the safe position too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USMC Sniper 0 Posted October 18, 2002 OFP has one of the worst Handgun simulations I have seen. The models are somewhat low poly (that doesnt count thoguh), they have no recoil except a small jitter upwards, terrible sounds, crappy anims (well ofp's anims are the worst part of it, imo). Global Operations has the best sounds because the guys fired all the guns and recoreded the sounds. Same with AA, but their ak sound is wierd, ive heard an ak before. Counter Strike has the best anims because many ppl made their own ones, and SOF2 also has excellent anims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted October 19, 2002 From the little I've seen, the best ingame weapon models seem to be Global Operations and/or Team Factor, just my not-so-humble opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 0 Posted October 19, 2002 ive fired a .223, sling shot, ak47, and lego cannons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 19, 2002 This seems to be straying into gun debate and/or discussion about other games, either of these two would make it an OT thread, I'll give it a lil more of a chance being the patient forgiving moderator that I am Share this post Link to post Share on other sites