Campana de malvinas and falklands war

[Placebo 29]

As far as I'm aware Argy is simply a slang term for Argentinian, same as Brit, Yank etc. I've used it in the past and certainly never meant it in a derogatory manner, like when talking to a Man Utd friend of mine a while back "That Argy midfielder Fergy is after doesn't look half bad" (Obviously that was before they bought Veron).

As for the Nazi thing, I would hope that anyone who uses the forum has the intelligence to know that Nazi does not equate with Germans, or Germany, or even the average German soldier of WWII.

Anyone who does think like that will have to be re-educated, and if that's not possible then they will perhaps find a different forum more to their liking.

Jocular banter between people is fine, racial slurs, put downs based on nationality, prejudice and stereotypes are not fine and will be met with severe ramifications.

That said, I just downloaded and watched the "Malvinas" trailer, it's looking rather good, will most likely check out the finished thing, from what I've seen they aren't creating the island though? That's a shame as it would make for a more authentic feel

[nolips71 0]

where as we are

[miles teg 1]

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All the more reason to cooperate with them.

Letting them use your MOD team's island at least would be a nice olive branch that perhaps would make them more willing to allow your MOD team to use their addons.

A little diplomacy can go a long ways.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Placebo 29]

Last thing we need is pointless bad blood between two mod groups, I see no reason for it

[CapMorganCD 0]

Glad to see people talking about our mod. Thanks for that.

Let me answer some questions:

Political:

I'm not going to make any more comments about this topic.

Sharing Models:

Well, i can't say too much about it after nolips71's reply...hehe

He also said they tried to merge with us and as far as I know that never happened. Just wanted to clarify that.

Island:

We are making an island (you can see some pictures at our site) but it's in a very early stage of development, so we couldn't make the trailer on it and we decided to do it on Malden. Maybe in the next trailer we will.

If you like the trailer, thank you very much for your support. We are always open to constructive criticism.

If you don't. thank you anyway for your time.

Big thanx to BIS for making the best game ever and for giving us the tools to make our mod.=)

capmorgan@cazadoresdemonte.com.ar

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CapMorganCD @ Sep. 29 2002,22:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you like the trailer, thank you very much for your support. We are always open to constructive criticism.

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I liked it And as you've now said you are making an island then my point doesn't apply, I was impressed with the Argie soldier models, I thought the uniforms looked very close to those I remembered from the news

[Antichrist 0]

2 CapMorganCD

If you didn't even try to merge before is it that hard to try?

[CapMorganCD 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 30 2002,01:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CapMorganCD @ Sep. 29 2002,22:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you like the trailer, thank you very much for your support. We are always open to constructive criticism.

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I liked it And as you've now said you are making an island then my point doesn't apply, I was impressed with the Argie soldier models, I thought the uniforms looked very close to those I remembered from the news <span id='postcolor'>

Thanx, we are trying really hard to make the addons as realistic as possible.

To antichrist:

Well, after reading some posts of some members of the Falkland team i really don't think it can be possible.

Sorry Atichrist.

[Morph 0]

Let me begin by saying that NoLips's comments had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the feelings of the team..  In fact I'm quite appalled and disappointed by what he has said, especially the racial ones.

I've only just come across this thread, as I don't visit www.flashpoint1985.com very often.

I want to put a few facts straight:

We have not been in touch with the Argentinean Mod regarding a merger, Nolips is getting confused with ANOTHER Falklands Mod which was starting after we started ours in Early March

The reason we aren't sharing our models is basically because we want the mod to have it's own units solely created by the team.

The Argentine mod has its own story, the same as we are having our own "story within a story", that's why a merge would not be possible.

We have up to now 8 highly accurate battlemaps created already, but the fact that we are created EVERYTHING in the mod (We aren't using any of ofp models, including Houses) means more time will be spent on the mod..

Let me finish this by apologising if NoLips's comments caused any offence to anyone.. It will NOT happen again.  

[Ash]

[cbfasi 4]

I am extremly dissappointed in the racial comments said above...

I am with the Falklands Team and in the end the two different mods will compliment each other.

After a conflict there is always 2 sides to the story..its going to be interesting in this case as we have both sides being worked on.  

The source materials vary in quality and accuracy.

Also we have the problem of propaganda with things like HMS Fearless being sunk (she has just been decommissionned, maybe selling to the Brazilians).  Many Argentine Units did extremely well considering the situation and that has even been mentioned in British sources.

I would prefer to have Argentines as friends rather than enemies, if I could read spanish I might even understand their site a bit more.

As for the merger well as Ash has said it was never even thought about and in this case may even hurt both mods.

I like what I have seen so far in the other mod and look forward to playing it.  Of course I will like the mod I am in better but its got my own work in it.

In the end wars should not happen and maybe people can learn from the ones that took place before.

This is a good examaple as its was relatively recent and it shows whats happens when you get hot headed politcians facing each other.

Too many people have died and are still suffering, and that applies for BOTH sides of this conflict.

These are my viewpoints and may not reflect all the viewpoints within the Falklands team.

[Skaven 0]

In my point of view, I think that the Falklands Team doesn't have the same point of view as Nolips, for myself, I can say that I will download the Argentinian Malvinas MOD, because as ours it does look great, I'm not racist whatsoever, and to be honest I have some Argentinian friends, it's great to have a lot of MOD's for our game, and if sometimes we'll have more than one on the same subject, I think that it's a great opurtunity to learn with each others.

Joinning both MODs is something that isn't possible, specially because we are already at an advanced part of our work, and it wouldn't be fair not to us not to them,we have managed to make a great team between ourselfes, we are not only working together, as also we have a lot of fun with each others, and I must say that we are between ourselfes a nice group of friends, where we help each others in a lot of situations, for that also I don't think that introducing 10 or 15 new menbers would benefict the MOD in any way.

My goal and I'm talking for myself only, is to have a lot of fun while making the MOD, I really don't care if 1 person or a 10000 persons download our MOD, I want as usual to make something for myself with a team, and than have loads of fun with it, than if people decide to download it and have fun with it, great if not I really don't car because I'll have fun the same way. I'm not selling a product, I'm working on a team which gives 110% to make something with quality, knowing always that we have a lot to learn while working with new things, so far it's being really interesting and funny, I hope it continues.

For the Argentinian MOD I do which them a lot of luck in their MOD I will be available to help them from the few knowledge I have and they can be sure that I will be the first one to download their MOD which so far, does look great, so congratulations to them.

[CapMorganCD 0]

Well, as i said before, i'll make not comments about the political or war facts.

Thanx Ash,CFASI and Skaven. It's very honorable from you to reply after Noplis's words.

Also i would like to add that your models look really great, the one i most like is the Land rover, really good work.

You are off course welcome to our forums (My english it's not soo good but i can understand very well) to discust anything about Modeling, mission editing, etc.

[nolips71 0]

sorry about that, i was just a little bit annoyed with the story on your site

but again i apologise for my words

[jdarbyshire 0]

OK I would like to just add that NOLIPS has said sorry to the rest of the team, and is sorry for his immature attitude towards other MODS. We as the Falklands MOD do not see any problem with the Campana de malvinas, and do not see it as a threat to us. In fact we see it as quite the opposite, and are looking forward to playing, and using the MOD. Once again NOLIPS apologises for any hassle he has created, and once again I would like to itterate that this is not the voice of the whole MOD, just that of the immature minority which are being cautioned. Let this be a warning to you NOLIPS. We are ashamed, and bemused by your attitude.

Gastovski

[KTottE 0]

How do you get yourself into these things Nolips?

Oh well, I'm looking forward to both MODs.

[Placebo 29]

He's apologised, both sides are now cool, no need to keep on at him

[nolips71 0]

thankyou placebo

[ZIKAN 0]

Both mods look very cool indeed, i will surely be downloading both.

I wonder if you will be using pop music from the 80's era to enhance the feeling of those times in a mission perhaps? (like the vietnam mod/missions have) I think it would be a cool feature if both mods could do this.

[Ruskiesrule 0]

Ok, that was civil war, it doesn't count cuz its kinda supprising when that civilian pulls a rifle out at you. We were at war with France too! France was a big super power then!

I was also joking, and Ralph, or the other guy, are right, its just slang, or about 90% of the American comunity would be banned for calling us Brits. I'm quite happy to be called a Limie, but thats for reasons only the British will understand!

(SUCKING ON LIME FRUIT IS GOOD FOR YOU! IT STOPS YOU DYING! YOU STUPID $Å&%^*Å IDIOTS)

Only joking, i'm just trying to get the point accross!

[Ruskiesrule 0]

And that would be cool! What music was in the 80s, i get the 70s and 80s mixed up, which one had the sex pistols and other cool punk bands! I love to storm Argie fortifications to 'god save the queen' by The Sex pistols!

Maby not, i mite be a born and bread killa. And a total patriot, and only in times of war do i stop calling the queen...

...theiving bitch...

...was queen the 80s?...

DUM DUM DUM! ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

DUM DUM DUM! AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

DDDDDDDIIIIIIIEEEEEE! If only the Hives were from the 80s! Or Korn, and what i listen to!

[Morph 0]

Sex Pistols was the late 70's era.. Queen, 70's 80's & 90's..

1982 was the year we had such bands like Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Duran Duran,etc

Actually I think the UK number one at the time war broke out was Seven Tears by the Goombay Dance Band! lmao

[UKSubmariner 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nolips71 @ Sep. 29 2002,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this is not going 2 happen because

1. there story is a complete load of crap

2. weve tried merging be4 and they wanted the controlling role

and where not sharing models

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Plus also their history of events is less than historical......

[Ruskiesrule 0]

and what would THEY be? Do they mension that we were the first nation to use a nuclear sub in battle?

That we slaughterd there airbase, and killed a whole load of bombers!