Referee killed by fans

[Duke_of_Ray 0]

Fans ent just a little to far.

Referee

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Uruguay

REFEREE KILLED OVER RED CARD

23/09/02

Uruguayan referee Carlos Raul De Leon Acosta was killed while refereeing a match between two clubs from Las Piedras in Uruguay this weekend.

The 40-year-old ref was attacked by a group of 'ultras' who stormed onto the pitch after Acosta had sent off a player.

One attacker used an iron bar and struck a fatal blow on the nape of Acosta's neck.

Although the crowd scattered the assailant has been identified to the police.

This incident is just one of a number of violent scenes seen in Uruguayan football recently, but this raises the safety concerns to a new level.

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[bn880 5]

The wonders of testosterone

[Mister Frag 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Sep. 28 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The wonders of testosterone   <span id='postcolor'>

More likely a combination of testosterone, adrenaline, and alcohol.

That is truly sad...

[DestroyerX 0]

I don't like soccer anymore, it's just no fun for me anymore. The reason are the fans and all the shit that comes along with it.

[bn880 5]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister Frag @ Sep. 28 2002,14:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Sep. 28 2002,11:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The wonders of testosterone <span id='postcolor'>

More likely a combination of testosterone, adrenaline, and alcohol.

That is truly sad... <span id='postcolor'>

And it all starts with testosterone... I know what you mean though.

[Bordoy 0]

They showed they can use there Astregin

I mean testosterone

[SKULLS_Viper 0]

greaaatttt....

[ralphwiggum 6]

man..we had some idiots attack a coach on basball field but this surely is worse....

[second_draw 0]

What about the columbian goalie who did the own goal. That was not alcohol. very scary indeed.

[DarkLight 0]

You know, this is not what i call sport, what a bunch of sick assholes.

How fucking stupid can someone possible be?

They should throw idiots like those guys of a 3km high bridge, so they have time to think about what they've done!!!! :evilgrin:

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (second_draw @ Sep. 29 2002,08:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What about the columbian goalie who did the own goal. That was not alcohol. very scary indeed.<span id='postcolor'>

You talking about the Colombian defender who scored an own goal during USA 94 and was then murdered when he went back home because drug cartels lost a lot of money betting on the game? He was called Andreas Escobar, very sad story

From sportsillustrated.cnn.com

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Escobar's moment of misfortune came in Colombia's next game against the United States. Stretching to cut out a cross, he deflected the ball into his own net. The U.S. went on to win 2-1 and the Colombians went home early.

In Medellin 10 days later, Escobar was shot 12 times by a gunman as he left a nightclub. With each bullet his assailant was reported by police to have shouted: "Goal."

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[Warin 0]

I think it's a sad commentary on how important Football becomes to people in a lot of the third world. It's like the one thing they can enjoy and find excitement in. And like anything, it gets to be taken far too seriously. And then things like this happen and it casts a shadow over the sport for everyone.

[Placebo 29]

Well to be honest the way I see it, these two things don't really say something bad about football, to me they simply show how cheaply life is valued in these two countries

In most countries sport stars are considered heros, and referees/umpires are generally respected to some degree because of the jobs they do.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 29 2002,22:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well to be honest the way I see it, these two things don't really say something bad about football, to me they simply show how cheaply life is valued in these two countries  

In most countries sport stars are considered heros, and referees/umpires are generally respected to some degree because of the jobs they do.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh yeah, like British soccer fans are models of good behavior

[loopy 0]

What a sad day for sport in general at the end of the day no ref no top grade to junior sport be it soccer league rugby whatever we all get pissed with refs from time to time but most people respect them for the job they do.

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 29 2002,23:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh yeah, like British soccer fans are models of good behavior<span id='postcolor'>

How many players or referees have been killed by "British" football fans? How many players or referees have been injured by "British" football fans?

Trying to score points is all well and good but please try to be accurate and stick to the point at hand.

[Tex -USMC- 0]

I didn't say anything about Brits killing referees, however I did note in a roundabout way that many of your soccer fans show a cultivated disregard for things like sportsmanship, courtesy, and refraining from starting riots in foreign countries.

You can get defensive if you want, but why bother when you know that some of the worst examples of soccer being taken too far occur because of British soccer fans. Besides, why kill a ref when just badly mauling him ensures that you will be able to do it again after he recovers?

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 30 2002,00:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 29 2002,221)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well to be honest the way I see it, these two things don't really say something bad about football, to me they simply show how cheaply life is valued in these two countries  

In most countries sport stars are considered heros, and referees/umpires are generally respected to some degree because of the jobs they do.<span id='postcolor'>

Oh yeah, like British soccer fans are models of good behavior<span id='postcolor'>

There aren't any "British" fans, just English, Scottish, Welsh etc.

And they behaved very well at the world cup, and they behave very well in European ties as well. Kudos to them, although UEFA's 5 year ban probably played a part in it.

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 30 2002,00:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Besides, why kill a ref when just badly mauling him ensures that you will be able to do it again after he recovers?<span id='postcolor'>

Well for one thing it's not British hooligans, if you're not aware Britain is made up of more than one country It's English hooligans, Scotand, Wales and Northern Ireland are actually pretty well behaved fans.

As for the hooligan element of English football, it's pretty much been stamped out since the early 90's, yes there will be occasional incidents of violence, but that is simply one moronic bunch of thugs fighting with another moronic bunch of thugs, 99% of all football fans anywhere in the world are decent loyal supporters. When was the last time there was a riot abroad of English football fans? Last time I can think of is Italia 90, When was the last time there was a riot of English football fans in England? When have English football fans ever badly mauled a referee?

As for me being defensive, perhaps, personally I see it more as striving for accuracy, if you're going to speak ill of a group of people you should at least be accurate and not base your comments on only half the facts

[Tex -USMC- 0]

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/09/01/england.clashes/

http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/05/17/denmark.soccer.03/

As for your English fans behaving at the World Cup, that would be because most of them weren't there: http://www.canoe.ca/Slam020522/soc_cup3-ap.html

[Placebo 29]

LOL CNN, I figured that would be the source

[Tex -USMC- 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 30 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL CNN, I figured that would be the source <span id='postcolor'>

and?

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 30 2002,01:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/09/01/england.clashes/

http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/05/17/denmark.soccer.03/

As for your English fans behaving at the World Cup, that would be because most of them weren't there: http://www.canoe.ca/Slam020522/soc_cup3-ap.html<span id='postcolor'>

Ok, 75 were arrested in Munich, 100 in the Arsenal clash.

FYI, it doesn't say anywhere who started it. Not that it matters, but it does say in the second article that this was only weeks after 3 Leeds supporters were stabbed in Constantinople. In this case, emotions run high of course.

Good on the WC authorities to instruct the police to keep out the hooligans, that doesn't mean that there weren't any English supporters

So, altogether you have about 1000 morons that are up for a fight, as opposed to 400 000 Premiership supporters every week going without a fight (assuming every premiereship side has about 20 000 supporters in their stadiums, which is probably underestimated).

I like your maths

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tex [uSMC] @ Sep. 30 2002,00:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Sep. 30 2002,01:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">LOL CNN, I figured that would be the source <span id='postcolor'>

and?<span id='postcolor'>

And it's CNN, what more do you need? CNN are world famous for the way they like to exaggerate things, from body counts to number of fans involved, find media from the actual events, you'll probably find it was 3 blokes and a dog fighting

As for Japan & Korea, we had plenty of fans there, no trouble

[Tex -USMC- 0]

fine, fine, whatever. Obviously I am completely uninformed in the ways the world work so I will leave the conversations to y'all people who know what the hell is going on in the world