Ebola Outbreak now reaches Europe

[mistyronin 1181]

There is confirmation that one person was infected with the Ebola virus in Europe. And what it's worst, it seems to have been completely avoidable.

First, the Spanish Gov. took a couple of infected old missionaries to Spain where there it seems there was no hospital ready for that kind of disease ( the medical personnel of the hospital says that they lacked proper protective clothes ). To make it more "funny" they send them to a hospital in Madrid, one of the most populated cities of Europe.

Second, according to the medical staff of that hospital, the treatment security protocols were not followed.

Third, once one of the nurses show symptoms of the sickness and alerted the authorities, instead of taking immediate measures and isolate her; they kept her in a public ER separated only by curtains from the other patients until the test results came back.

Of course, when the news were made public, the Spanish minister of healthcare, Ana Mato, said that she knew nothing about the subject.

What could possibly go wrong?

( The Guardian ) Spanish nurse’s Ebola infection blamed on substandard equipment

BTW, all of that was already known, and even denounced by one of the nurses trade union already in August:

http://amenfermerianoticias.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/carta-de-un-enfermero-existe-un-riesgo-mayor-que-el-ebola-y-esta-tras-el-cristal/

[mistyronin 1181]

( Al Jazeera ) WHO: no control over spread of Ebola

[mistyronin 1181]

( The Independent ) Ebola: 'British man dies of deadly virus in Macedonia and one other taken ill'

( The Globe and Mail ) Ebola could reach France and U.K. by end of month, scientists calculate

[Xalteva 10]

This is starting to be worrying ,the first to release a remedy will earn the jackpot :)

[mistyronin 1181]

( BBC ) Ebola challenge 'biggest since Aids'

he Ebola outbreak in West Africa is unlike anything since the emergence of HIV/Aids, top US medical official Thomas Frieden has said.

A fast global response could ensure that it did not become "the next Aids," the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said.

The presidents of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea appealed for more aid to help fight the disease.

The outbreak has killed more than 3,860 people, mainly in West Africa.

More than 200 health workers are among the victims.

[mistyronin 1181]

This is starting to be worrying ,the first to release a remedy will earn the jackpot :)

Seems you were right:

( RIA Novosti ) Russia Ready to Introduce New Ebola Vaccines in Six Months: Russian Health Minister

Russian virologists are planning to introduce vaccines to fight Ebola within the next six months, the country's Health Minister Veronika Skvortsova stated Saturday.

"We are now creating three vaccines... And they will be created, we think, in the next six months," Skvortsova said in an interview to Rossiya-1 TV channel.

She also said that Russia has begun the creation of special drugs that will also be used for the prevention and treatment of Ebola.

Not only the remedy but a vaccine too!

So was this outbreak caused by the Kremlin?

[Xalteva 10]

Seems you were right:

( RIA Novosti ) Russia Ready to Introduce New Ebola Vaccines in Six Months: Russian Health Minister

Not only the remedy but a vaccine too!

So was this outbreak caused by the Kremlin?

Oh come on ! doesn't work that way :D

Africa is another battlefield for AFRICOM (US) from a side and Russian + China from the other,there are a lot of precious ressources in that area, but let's not jump to conclusions so quickly :)

Edited October 12, 2014 by Xalteva

[MrHuachuca 10]

This Is another one of those big conversations of a disaster that happens. Ebola.

Ebola in easy terms is:

Ebola virus disease (EVD; also Ebola hemorrhagic fever (EHF)) or simply Ebola is a disease of humans and other primates caused by ebolaviruses. Signs and symptoms typically start between two days and three weeks after contracting the virus, with a fever, sore throat, muscle pain and headaches. Then, vomiting, diarrhea and rash usually follows, along with decreased function of the liver and kidneys. At this time, generally, some people begin to bleed both internally and externally.[1] Death, if it occurs, is typically six to sixteen days after symptoms appear and is often due to low blood pressure from fluid loss.[2]

The virus is acquired by contact with blood or other body fluids of an infected human or other animal.[1] This may also occur by direct contact with a recently contaminated item.[1] Spread through the air has not been documented in the natural environment.[3] Fruit bats are believed to be the normal carrier in nature, able to spread the virus without being affected. Humans become infected by contact with the bats or a living or dead animal that has been infected by bats. Once human infection occurs, the disease may spread between people as well. Male survivors may be able to transmit the disease via semen for nearly two months. To diagnose EVD, other diseases with similar symptoms such as malaria, cholera and other viral hemorrhagic fevers are first excluded. Blood samples are tested for viral antibodies, viral RNA, or the virus itself to confirm the diagnosis.[1]

Outbreak control requires a coordinated series of medical services, along with a certain level of community engagement. The necessary medical services include rapid detection and contact tracing, quick access to appropriate laboratory services, proper management of those who are infected, and proper disposal of the dead through cremation or burial.[1][4] Prevention includes decreasing the spread of disease from infected animals to humans.[1] This may be done by only handling potentially infected bush meat while wearing protective clothing and by thoroughly cooking it before consumption.[1] It also includes wearing proper protective clothing and washing hands when around a person with the disease.[1] Samples of body fluids and tissues from people with the disease should be handled with special caution.[1]

No specific treatment for the disease is yet available. Efforts to help those who are infected are supportive and include giving either oral rehydration therapy (slightly sweetened and salty water to drink) or intravenous fluids. This supportive care improves outcomes. The disease has a high risk of death, killing between 25% and 90% of those infected with the virus (average is 50%). EVD was first identified in an area of Sudan (now part of South Sudan), as well as in Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo). The disease typically occurs in outbreaks in tropical regions of sub-Saharan Africa.[1] From 1976 (when it was first identified) through 2013, the World Health Organization reported a total of 1,716 cases.[1][5] The largest outbreak to date is the ongoing 2014 West African Ebola outbreak, which is currently affecting Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia.[6][7][8] As of 14 October 2014, 9,216 suspected cases resulting in the deaths of 4,555 have been reported.[6] Efforts are under way to develop a vaccine.[1]

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Honestly it's quite dumb (in my opinion) why US will refuse to bring back chem. troops. We should've been more prepared even. I mean not anything to scare you all, this virus will go........watch news, watch everything study. It was a Virus Weapon. It's not going to stop. (why evil show *Last Ship) I personally think they should limit on flights from other countries. HOWEVER if we cancel flights it will most likely lead to riots, more crime, etc.

Hard to explain my thoughts.... comment your's below!

[ProfTournesol 956]

One EBOLA topic is more than enough : http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?184038-Ebola-Outbreak-now-reaches-Europe

[mistyronin 1181]

You know... EBOLA threads spread like virus.

:dancehead:

[slatts 1978]

You know... EBOLA threads spread like virus.

:dancehead:

Once you touch one Ebola thread, you have to touch another one ;)

[maddogx 13]

The latest outbreak of Ebola threads has been contained.

For now...

[mistyronin 1181]

You know the same news are not covered in the same way everywhere, let's compare UK & the US...

[slatts 1978]

Also, ladies of the BIS forums! Protect yourselves against Ebola this halloween!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B037RACIcAA4dNn.jpg

[Smurf 12]

Chill out. Just a viral for "28 Months Later".

[oxmox 73]

Every influeanza (flu) is more dangerous than Ebola (09.10.2014/Watson.ch)

Beda M. Stadler, a known Immolugist and Professor at the University of Bern/Switzerland, sees the hype around Ebola as fearmongering. Industry and research profits from.

Q: Mr. Stadler, Ebola did arrive in Spain - will it come soon into Switzerland ?

Beda M. Stadler: No. The Ebola epidemic is comming especially from Hollywood. Scripts of horror movies contain highly infectious Viruses like Ebola and stylize them into pandemias which exterminate the human manhood. Ebola exist longer than human exist. Such a virus like Ebola cant carry off the mankind.

Q: Why

Stadler: Ebola is traceable. The incubation time of the Virus takes between one week and 20 days. This is not long and you know where the Virus is currently located.

>> During flu epedemics in Europe more people die than those who died from Ebola alraedy in Africa <<

The Virus is currently spreading uncontrolled in Africa.

Yes, in Africa. In Switzerland Ebola would have zero chances. We have different kind of hygien standards. People in Africa did say good bye to ebola victims with hugs and kisses at their burials. Here the bodies would have been cremate and there would be no danger anymore. The hospitals have high standards with highly trained staff which are familiar with quarantine situations.

People would have said this about Spain aswell

A small mistake from a single person is enough. For example from those who clean the vomit of the sick person or care about the excrements. During flu epedemics in Europe more people die than those who died from Ebola alraedy in Africa.

But the virus mutates

And this is another nonsens. Every virus mutates constantly. This is normal but not dangerous. It would be dangerous when ebola would be suddenly communicable through droplets. But for that the physical size of the virus is too big.

>> The vaccine against Ebola could be prove by my students within a half year. But until now nobody could make money with it. <<

From where is the big fear around Ebola comming from ?

Because the mortality is high when someone is infected by ebola and the death is very ugly. Infected persons have diarrhoea and vomit, several systems in the body getting attacked by the virus and many organs have failures. This is not nice and it is frightening the layman.

You are a proponent of vaccines. Why no vaccine against ebola exist ?

In principle it exist already. The vaccine against Ebola could be prove by my students within a half year. But until now nobody could make money with it. The industry does not invest hundred of millions in a vaccine which cant be sold. Just wait a bit, in some months a vaccine will be available.

The fearmongering is useful for the industry ?

Yes, and for researches. The WHO is hoping for more funds thanks to their scare tactics. That was done already with the swine flu and bird flu (avian flu). Actually they should apologize.

http://www.watson.ch/!692779493

(quick translation of the german text)

Edited November 2, 2014 by oxmox

[ProfTournesol 956]

Yes, all this is quite obvious, but you should ask yourself : do you prefer to catch a flu or Ebola ?

[oxmox 73]

Yes, all this is quite obvious, but you should ask yourself : do you prefer to catch a flu or Ebola ?

This is only obvious when you read about it since nobody from us is an expert, I prefer either flu or ebola since the mortality seems to be high.

[ProfTournesol 956]

If you're not very old or pregnant or very ill, you have close to 0% chance to die from flu, while you've approx 50% chance to die from Ebola.

Edited November 2, 2014 by ProfTournesol

[oxmox 73]

During the spanish flu between 1918 and 1920 around 20-50 million people died. An unusual feature of this pandemic was that it mostly killed young adults. In 1918-1919, 99% of pandemic influenza deaths in the US occurred in people under 65, and nearly half in young adults 20 to 40 years old.

Modern analysis has shown the virus to be particularly deadly because it triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

This is of course a special case and I guess that in most other flu epedemics such unusual features do not exist and people which you describe are rather those who are at risk.

I think the point is that how dangerous is the spread. Like this single expert says, it would be very dangerous when Ebola would spread with droplets.

Edited November 2, 2014 by oxmox

[mistyronin 1181]

Everything is relative about a sickness "dangerous factor".

For instance I was following the newspapers in Spain during the Ebola case in Madrid, there was at the same time a Legionnaires' disease case in Barcelona region that killed a dozen people.

If we only count dead people Legionnellosis was worst than Ebola in Spain... Same with the flu that usually kills more people every year that Ebola, but of course the difference is the range of the diseases and how they work.

It the same with animals. Mosquitoes cause more human deaths than any other animal, but people are more afraid of sharks that almost don't kill any human.

[.kju 3244]

if you want to watch a real world "zombie" movie - be careful as it can be quite distressing

Outbreak – FRONTLINE

The vivid, inside story of why the Ebola outbreak wasn’t stopped before it was too late.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/outbreak/

[oxmox 73]

 

>> The vaccine against Ebola could be prove by my students within a half year. But until now nobody could make money with it. <<

From where is the big fear around Ebola comming from ?

Because the mortality is high when someone is infected by ebola and the death is very ugly. Infected persons have diarrhoea and vomit, several systems in the body getting attacked by the virus and many organs have failures. This is not nice and it is frightening the layman.

You are a proponent of vaccines. Why no vaccine against ebola exist ?

In principle it exist already. The vaccine against Ebola could be prove by my students within a half year. But until now nobody could make money with it. The industry does not invest hundred of millions in a vaccine which cant be sold. Just wait a bit, in some months a vaccine will be available.

The fearmongering is useful for the industry ?

Yes, and for researches. The WHO is hoping for more funds thanks to their scare tactics. That was done already with the swine flu and bird flu (avian flu). Actually they should apologize.

http://www.watson.ch/!692779493

(quick translation of the german text)

 

 

 

 

 

 

This scientist was right.........its all about profits and the result of the Ebola outbreak could have been avoided easily...... Another example is MERS described in the following article.

 

 

 

 

WHO: Tests show new Ebola vaccine is 'highly effective'

Results of early tests of a new vaccine for Ebola shows it to be "highly effective," quickly protecting 100% of people against the virus, the World Health Organization said Friday.

 

"Too many people have been dying from this extremely deadly disease, and it has been very frustrating for healthcare workers to feel so powerless against it," said Bertrand Draguez, medical director for Doctors Without Borders. "More data is needed to tell us how efficacious this preventive tool actually is, but this is a unique breakthrough."

 

While the study results are promising, some scientists describe them as bittersweet.

 

 

In 2005, researchers Heinz Feldman and Thomas Geisbert showed that another type of experimental Ebola vaccine, which used a virus called the VSV virus, protected monkeys extremely well against Ebola. That vaccine is the same one used in the current study in Guinea.

 

--> Pharmaceutical companies had no interest in conducting human tests, however, because there wasn't a market for them

 

Unlike flu outbreaks, which are large and occur every year, Ebola outbreaks occur sporadically and unpredictably. Until the current epidemic in West Africa, Ebola outbreaks were usually small, with only a few dozen patients. Pharmaceutical companies only agreed to develop Ebola vaccines after the West African epidemic spiraled out of control last year, affecting thousands of people.

 

"It's sad to think how many lives could have been saved had the technology been available a few months earlier," Hotez said. "'Too little too late," as they say."

 

 

Scientists have encountered the same problem developing a vaccine against MERS, or Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. Although early results have been promising, no pharmaceutical companies are interested, said Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, in an interview this week.

 

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/07/31/who-tests-show-new-ebola-vaccine-highly-effective/30928885/

 

 

 

@contrast is missing with the new forum style, harder to read than before.

[mistyronin 1181]

It's sad but makes sense. Pharmaceutical companies work for profits, as most people do. If there is no profit in a vaccine, they just don't invest in it.