negah 26 Posted June 28, 2014 http://www.theoceancleanup.com/ Theese guys have a plan how to reduce the pollution of oceans with plastic waste by using currents, which will transport the waste into floating barriers where it can be effectively gathered. IMO its a great idea, however as already said on the website, it does not solve the problem entirely. And of course funding is another problem. So what do you think about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 28, 2014 Those barriers would have to be huge to be of any effect.... And what about the fish? Sorry but I see this more as a kickstarter to raise enough money to start a company, than a campaign to reduce waste in the oceans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Degman 73 Posted June 28, 2014 You understand that these barriers are on surface only ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3245 Posted June 28, 2014 Not sure if vice/motherboard also has these in English: http://motherboard.vice.com/de/read/the-ocean-clean-up http://motherboard.vice.com/de/read/interview-mit-boyan-slat Use google translate - or check the pics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 28, 2014 You understand that these barriers are on surface only ? Yeah and that is why they make even less sense. Yes a lot of plastic floats on the surface, but much much more floats beneath it. This project simply isn´t effective for the environment. However I think it can be very rewarding for the company that does it if they recycel all that waste and I think that this is the real motivation behind this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Yeah and that is why they make even less sense. Yes a lot of plastic floats on the surface, but much much more floats beneath it. This project simply isn´t effective for the environment. However I think it can be very rewarding for the company that does it if they recycel all that waste and I think that this is the real motivation behind this.Indeed, Waste mining is really becoming interesting in the near future especially considering all the electronic devices containing gold and rare metals that were simply dumped in the 60's - 90's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landfill_mininghttp://www.theguardian.com/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/may/27/landfill-mining-waste-energy Edited June 29, 2014 by Beagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
negah 26 Posted June 29, 2014 That waste mining concept is a good idea. It also shows what can be done with all that plastic waste floating in the oceans. Those two concepts can be combined I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted June 29, 2014 i do not know how it works in different countries, but in European Union countries we have different waste bins (since few years) for each type of material (glass waste bin, paper, metal, plastic, other http://śmieci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kosze.png ), i heard some time ago that few biggest industrial countries (China, USA) were simply throwing waste to ocean in the past, i do not know if it was true, but i remember such info from TV, for sure clean water is basic thing that human need Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 29, 2014 Yeah so the question still stands. Is this an honest project that wants to clean the oceans, or is this kickstarter just a way to collect money to start a waste mining company? I think it is the second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted June 30, 2014 I'd air on the side of caution for any kickstarter, its not as though people haven't used kick starting programs in the past with a reason as a facade..*coughkony2012cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee8190 10 Posted June 30, 2014 Their intentions are admirable ( at the first glance at least ) and either way it's about time we started to look around us but it's probably too late anyway... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-21119774 http://www.globalresearch.ca/navy-dumped-thousands-of-tons-of-radioactive-waste-into-the-atlantic-ocean/5362499 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpO6flJaEE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted June 30, 2014 Well you see the big plastic bags that float on the surface are not really the main problem. The much bigger problem is the huge ammount of small platic particels that float underwater. Fish eat them and they get in their blood, and then we eat the fish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted July 1, 2014 Iiit's the circle of liiiiiife... Mmm plastic tasting fish, I think we call them mud cats down here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
negah 26 Posted July 1, 2014 Well you see the big plastic bags that float on the surface are not really the main problem. The much bigger problem is the huge ammount of small platic particels that float underwater. Fish eat them and they get in their blood, and then we eat the fish... Yeah but those small plastic particles originate from the big plastic parts that are dissolved under the impact of the salty water. So if we start gathering the big parts before they get dissolved, we might reduce the amount of small particles after some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites