giallustio 770 Posted April 7, 2014 Hearts and Minds Hearts and Minds is a cooperative mission that aims to recreate a post war environment based on an insurgency gameplay. CSAT forces retreated from Altis and NATO deployed units and vehicles to help the local population. A new formed group, known as "Oplitas", is againts the NATO intervention and it is ready to fight back. The mission has a lot of features: Medical system Logistic system Deep ACE3 support Interaction system IED/Suicide bomber system Dynamic caching system Civilian interaction Reputation system More than 5 side mission Full saving DataBase Optional mods support (CAF and RHS AF) Something I forgot for sure You main task is to defeat the "Oplitas" group and restore peace and order in Altis. The militia has an unknown number in the island that need to be destroyed. They have also ammo caches in various locations, destroy them to weaken its power. Bad actions cause bad effetcs. Infact there's a reputation system: helping the local population, fighting the "Oplitas", disarming IED will rise your reputation; killing civilians, losing vehicles, respawns will decrease your repution. At the beginning you have a very low reputation level, so civilians won't help you revealing important information about Oplitas, they will likely lie instead. Any support or feedback is always welcome and appreciated! Requirements: - CBA - ACE3 - RHS US Credits: - =BTC= clan - Contributors DownLoad link I'm not maintaining this mission at the moment but you could try the new version of Vdauphin, he's working on it costantly and he added and fixed a lot of things: Download link Features added from Vdauphin repository : Extend battlefield to sea Rearm system More than 12 side mission Tanoa map Optional mods support (=BTC= Militia, IWAR: Irregular Warfare, Ericj_Taliban, RDS A2 Civilian Pack, CUP Units and CUP Vehicles) And more! 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
x39 101 Posted April 7, 2014 links are not working basically i would be interested in joining the developement process but ... yeah ... not sure if you know but if not got a pretty giant hill of work which is getting higher every day :F (XMedSys, XTacticalHud, XLib) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 7, 2014 'Cause there are no links :D closed alpha. I was looking for testers and suggestions about the gameplay but i guess that more scripters will work on it the better the comunity will have! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorbeySpector 164 Posted April 8, 2014 sounds good! just make sure that it's editor-friendly. :) There are not much changes about caches. Militia units drop intels that you can pick up with your scroll menu. The intel type is a document not a suitcase anymore. You can destroy a cache with explosives only. Vehicles don't respawn but you can repair them in base. =BTC= logistic script is included, so you can lift wrecks. 1) how about a few different types of intel? 2) as long as vehicles can be made 'respawnable' - not everyone likes no respawn. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 8, 2014 1) What do you suggest? 2)Well, it does respawn if you take it back to the base and repair it. I'd like to add a new interaction with the population but i don't know how to do it (gameplay speaking). If you kill a civilian the reputation goes down, that's easy, but how to rise it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevsNoTrev 44 Posted April 8, 2014 To raise it you may may get a job from a town/civilians and/or liberate towns You could reward player with reputation rise if they render first aid to injured civilians Question is would it be the player or player group or side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harzach 2516 Posted April 8, 2014 I'd like to add a new interaction with the population but i don't know how to do it (gameplay speaking). If you kill a civilian the reputation goes down, that's easy, but how to rise it? Just spitballing here: Hearts and minds? A lot of things you could do there - have a small percentage of civs spawn slightly wounded, and healing them raises rep, "bribing" with food and water, repairing civ vehicles, even simple conversation. Maybe have a few "interpreter" player slots, the only ones able to raise rep through conversation, at a cost of being limited in what weapons/attachments are available to them. Also, clearing areas of insurgency should raise overall rep, at least near that area. ---------- Post added at 06:44 ---------- Previous post was at 05:13 ---------- It should be mentioned that this mission requires A3MP/AllInArma (terrain is Takistan) and CAF Aggressors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Yeah, i forgot it, sorry. CAF Aggressors is optional. If you have East vs West mods installed militia could use BTR,BRDM and M113 too Edited April 8, 2014 by Giallustio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harzach 2516 Posted April 8, 2014 I mentioned it because, when I ran it without CAF_AG, the insurgents all killed each other. Is the only way to clear an area of insurgent activity to destroy their hideout? And if so, how exactly should one go about that? Is there a particular object there that must be destroyed? Also, the civs from nearby towns all rush the airbase. :Oo: Otherwise, looking great so far! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 8, 2014 Probably i can't spawn A3 guerrilla as opfor, i'll look into it. The civs act weird, i know, but it's an A3 behaviour, i just gave to them a waypoint, so... Place a satchel near the flag to destroy an hideout. An area could be held by the enemy even if there aren't hideouts. The hideouts provide supports and reinforcements to the nearest cities. If a city is out of the range it won't get any support. Generally rebels and suiciders are close to the hideout. If there's an high enemy activity in the area probably there's an hideout somewhere. What about performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gavc 28 Posted April 8, 2014 I'll volunteer our group/server to test it out if you like. We are old hats at insurgency in A2 and have grown tired of it, some new ideas is exactly what this excellent coop game type needs. PM me. Gav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harzach 2516 Posted April 8, 2014 What about performance? Seems fine so far, though I haven't been able to get an appreciable number of players involved yet. Lag at mission init seems workable, and I noticed occasional and very slight lags when moving across the map - I assume this was cached units being spawned, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 8, 2014 In the next update i'll try to improve the performance of the caching system a bit. I've ready a basic system of reputation, but i've to create all the negative/positive effects! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendome 91 Posted April 8, 2014 Very cool! Look forward to the release :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks Giallustio I'll hopefully have some feedback for you this weekend!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ice_age0815 37 Posted April 9, 2014 that sounds really interesting like to try that out can you make it with out any addons to ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorbeySpector 164 Posted April 10, 2014 Will this insurgency have squares that will go green once they're cleared? Probably i can't spawn A3 guerrilla as opfor yes you can, they're in the vanilla game, just hidden from the editor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Will this insurgency have squares that will go green once they're cleared? No, there aren't yes you can, they're in the vanilla game, just hidden from the editor. Already fixed ty! I'm working on the "ask" feature. I think that only the interpreter will be able to ask informations to the civilians. The answer you'll get depends on the global reputation you have. Edited April 10, 2014 by Giallustio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phronk 898 Posted April 11, 2014 Sounds great! Will this also have civilians? If so, how will they work/behave? Also, do you have a parameter to limit the amount of cached units that can be spawned in at a time? This could be useful for when groups try to spread out on a map. Looking forward to this. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giallustio 770 Posted April 11, 2014 Yes! There are civilians. You can interact with them asking for informations and there's a level of reputation that influences their answer and their reactions (grab weapons againts players, call militia and so on). I think i won't add a limit to the units in map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendome 91 Posted April 11, 2014 I'd be interested in testing the mission for you if your still looking for testers :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opendome 91 Posted April 12, 2014 PM sent Great thanks! Im pretty busy this afternoon but Ill get into it tonight for sure :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted April 14, 2014 Sorry had no time this weekend to test new version... anything in particular you want us to test for or just try and break something? ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
