St. Jimmy 272 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Well just tried to fly with 12K view distance and 500 object draw distance just to see how much the ground of is making the game freeze. In Stratis there's 0 freeze and everything goes smoothly. In Chernarus there's no freezing and same as Stratis. In Altis the game runs about the same fps as Stratis but then the screen freezes often so it's pretty bad. It has something to do with loading the ground. I can put some comparsion videos later. Something just isn't loaded right in Altis. /This wasn't really about the less than 5 fps but might relate. I still voted no because it's running well. Edited August 27, 2013 by St. Jimmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted August 27, 2013 it may solve the not loading issue? who knows no harm in trying lol Yeah, anything is worth trying. Btw. would the people who voted "YES + 64bit" mind speaking up? I hate to point fingers, but posts like this one seem to indicate that certain people are voting without actually reading the poll. ("[...] I do have a few issues with streaming [...] Not too much of a problem [...]" does not accurately describe this particular issue.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arjay 7 Posted August 27, 2013 astaroth is calling for dxdiag on the feedback tracker, if you are experiencing this issue please post yours on there http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=13345 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSAndrey 1 Posted August 27, 2013 Guys, unless you have 1 FPS and glitchy textures, please don't vote "yes". Optimization and occasional FPS drops/stutters have nothing to do with this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tortuosit 486 Posted August 27, 2013 OK, Tiger_Walts in http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=13345 indicated that veryfying files with Steam did not help with this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxatrush1987 10 Posted August 27, 2013 all runs fine even on 12k/12k setting, but initial loading cripple things up, and at 12k/12k the engine is just loading stuff over and over again to flush in the and and start over loading thing into ram again. on normal game settings12k view+4k objectdistance no probs. sadly the game just don´t utilise more than 2.15gb ram, think that would help alot with stuttering/1-2fps on max settings if it would utilise 4gb ram. the angine easely fills up 3gb of video ram with easy either. so only 1/2 fps for me if too many objects are rendered Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy the nerd 14 Posted August 27, 2013 To be fair, I play at about 20 FPS on Stratis (and for that matter Chernarus or Takistan in Arma 2) but then why does it lag so badly just in the editor or with map open on Altis? When I quit the game even after leaving Altis the game was still running even slower than usual for me, the screen was black for about a minute after exitting as opposed to usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted August 27, 2013 on normal game settings12k view+4k objectdistance no probs. Then you are not experiencing this specific issue and voted on the wrong option. (And you're definitely not alone.) The question here is not whether you can achieve <5 FPS by increasing your settings to ridiculous values, but whether you are unable to achieve > 5 FPS at all. Not that the poll matters much anymore - a little birdie told me that they've already narrowed it down to 32bit systems. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arjay 7 Posted August 27, 2013 A little birdie told me that they've already narrowed it down to 32bit systems. ;) Awesome! thanks Maddog your vigilance has been appreciated anyway I'm sure :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illusion_cz 10 Posted August 27, 2013 Awesome! thanks Maddog your vigilance has been appreciated anyway I'm sure :) Yeah true, thanks a lot mate for your time and effort. Now let's hope it will be fix as soon as possible and hopefuly working without any trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyl3r99 41 Posted August 27, 2013 im glad ive got 64bit ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted August 27, 2013 Good news (well...sorta) that they've narrowed it down to 32bit OS Here's my post from the feedback tracker: Same issue - changing in-game video settings makes no (or very little) difference - testing done with 500m view distance - tried with -noLogs - tried validating steam files - tried shift numpad - (flush) after each change - same test in editor (place one unit hit preview) on Stratis gets 60FPS On Altis: - if I start in the water far from land - 30FPS - starting on a small island - 15FPS - starting at main airfield - 2FPS Character in 3rd person view gets graphical glitches (flashes) and other strangeness like stretched-neck syndrome Also after this happens (drop to 2FPS) exiting back to the main menu does not help (still runs slooooow) I need to quit the game and re-launch. Windows 7 32bit i7 920 GTX 570 4GB RAM Game on SSD drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james2464 176 Posted August 27, 2013 Well done MadDogX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenfist 1863 Posted August 27, 2013 Now the big question for me is: do I start installing 64-bit windows immediately and go from slideshow to smoothness in few hours or do I bear to wait for a proper fix? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Illusion_cz 10 Posted August 27, 2013 Now the big question for me is: do I start installing 64-bit windows immediately and go from slideshow to smoothness in few hours or do I bear to wait for a proper fix? Well I am asking myself the same thing since yesterday. The devs are on it with max priority so I think I will wait at least till full release and then I will see. But installing 64bit OS and adding more ram would be good too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted August 27, 2013 lol I am at work eyeing a 64bit Windows 7 computer... I might 'borrow' it for a while if I can fit my video card inside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
becario 1 Posted August 27, 2013 lol I am at work eyeing a 64bit Windows 7 computer... I might 'borrow' it for a while if I can fit my video card inside LOL I would say definiteely yes, but that might get you in trouble at work, so maybe it's better to wait. I just cnat change to 64 right now, so I'll wait. Anyway we have until the 12th to change back to stable branch and still play in stratis. after that, well be almost alone... unless someone creates a group to play in stratis hahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger_Walts 10 Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) After some investigation I have discovered that the following file is at fault {Arma 3}\Addons\map_altis_data.pbo Renaming this file's extention (e.g. map_altis_data.pbox) will allow you to run Altis without the issue as described. You will get errors but they are non-fatal. This file contains (among other things): Map Images (Terrain and thumb) Other assorted images Road data You still get roads, but the AI probably wont follow them. I've already reported this information to the Feedback site. Edited August 27, 2013 by Tiger_Walts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SavageCDN 231 Posted August 27, 2013 ^ i can confirm this does indeed work. Still get drops to 1FPS at times (if I teleport to a new spot I assume it's loading all the textures or something), but otherwise steady at 40-50FPS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topas 1 Posted August 27, 2013 Having been directed here by Illusion_cz (thx mate! I found some comfort here :)) I'll just repost and detail a bit my findings shared in an other Altis thread; Vista Home Basic 32-bit AMD Phenom II X4 955 Processor 3.2 GHz 4GB RAM ATI Radeon HD5670 1GB 190GB free space on A3 installation HDD running A3 at 1920x1080 problem - complete freeze, 0 to 1 FPS while trying to preview a mission on Altis. Editor works excellent, satmask textures loading instantly, map scroling and zooming in/out without problems. Loading times, decent (same as Stratis) Sound stutters, 1 second of audio loads after some 20 seconds of complete halt, no detailed LODs displaying (character and environment models simplified to what seems one of the frthest LODs, textures all blurry, parts of models missing) Disabling graphical options + lowering everything else to minimum + windowed mode does no change. 0 FPS At the same time able to play on Stratis with most of the settings pretty much maxxed out with a decent and stable framerate of 30-40 FPS (with bloom, occlusion, blur, FSAA and all the fance new stuff). Voted: YES (23 bit OS) ---------- Post added at 21:50 ---------- Previous post was at 21:38 ---------- After some investigation I have discovered that the following file is at fault{Arma 3}\Addons\map_altis_data.pbo Confirmed to be working! Enjoying some first impressions of Altis at 30FPS now ;)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mysterion36 10 Posted August 27, 2013 After some investigation I have discovered that the following file is at fault{Arma 3}\Addons\map_altis_data.pbo Renaming this file's extention (e.g. map_altis_data.pbox) will allow you to run Altis without the issue as described. You will get errors but they are non-fatal. This file contains (among other things): Map Images (Terrain and thumb) Other assorted images Road data You still get roads, but the AI probably wont follow them. I've already reported this information to the Feedback site. being a noob here how do i change the file extension? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted August 27, 2013 After some investigation I have discovered that the following file is at fault{Arma 3}\Addons\map_altis_data.pbo Renaming this file's extention (e.g. map_altis_data.pbox) will allow you to run Altis without the issue as described. You will get errors but they are non-fatal. This file contains (among other things): Map Images (Terrain and thumb) Other assorted images Road data You still get roads, but the AI probably wont follow them. I've already reported this information to the Feedback site. I can confirm this aswell. Thanks a million for this post. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSAndrey 1 Posted August 27, 2013 After some investigation I have discovered that the following file is at fault{Arma 3}\Addons\map_altis_data.pbo Renaming this file's extention (e.g. map_altis_data.pbox) will allow you to run Altis without the issue as described. You will get errors but they are non-fatal. This file contains (among other things): Map Images (Terrain and thumb) Other assorted images Road data You still get roads, but the AI probably wont follow them. I've already reported this information to the Feedback site. Confirmed, fixed it for me. But as said, some pictures (map preview, loading screen and etc.) will be missing. My FPS now is the same as in Stratis (with the same old 10 FPS near water problem). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyl3r99 41 Posted August 27, 2013 good job tiger, now the devs have some good ground to go on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSAndrey 1 Posted August 27, 2013 being a noob here how do i change the file extension? Right click on file-rename-and change the extension Share this post Link to post Share on other sites