coffeeshock 20 Posted March 14, 2013 At first I thought the missing shell casings from the MX rifle were an Alpha bug... But after some research I realised it was intended and 6.5 ammo is now suddenly "caseless"...are you serious? It feels and looks utterly cheap and pathetic, it totally kills the whole realism feel/look it had at the E3 showings etc. Not even Halo had this with most of its guns which takes places 500 years in the future. I really like the design of the new MX rifles (and they still have a shell ejection port lol) but this caseless ammo issue now actually changed my mind and I won't buy the game anymore...unless you revert it back to normal traditional ammo or some modders come up with a quick mod/addon to "fix" it properly in the first weeks. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvenLease 11 Posted March 14, 2013 You wont buy the game because they are using a real ammo type? Ok, bye! :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrLoK 20 Posted March 14, 2013 Hello there 1. caseless ammo's been around for years. 2. not buying a game due to the ammo type seems a little odd. 3.go on get it. its fun. Rgds LoK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonygrunt 10 Posted March 14, 2013 Can you at least make a better argument for not using caseless ammo than "It feels and looks utterly cheap and pathetic, it totally kills the whole realism feel/look it had at the E3 showings etc.", because that's just your opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lemkeh 1 Posted March 14, 2013 Caseless ammo is real. Though it passes through a long testing phases. And has a competitor - cased telescoped ammo. http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008Intl/Spiegel.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smurf 12 Posted March 14, 2013 This and the knee pad threads are my favourites so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffeeshock 20 Posted March 14, 2013 "Real ammo" lmao...yet nobody uses this "real ammo" that was tested and rejected for obvious reasons decades ago... Caseless ammo in a video game is just a lame excuse to help with performance issues imo...and it makes the game look odd, as in Wolfenstein 3D ancient video games odd. This just proves once again how every single upcoming video game these days turns into dog poo. This change kills the whole Arma experience for me. If I want laser guns, I can play some Star Wars title... The main reason for this thread is my hope for a response from a Dev with a proper explanation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuse 1 Posted March 14, 2013 "Suddenly"? The game takes place in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coffeeshock 20 Posted March 14, 2013 "Suddenly"? The game takes place in the future. Yes, they "suddenly" changed it since their E3 show case...check YT for proof, hence the still existing shell ejection ports! It only takes place 20 years in the future, not 10.000... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smurf 12 Posted March 14, 2013 The E3 video was wrong, not the Alpha. I could find a post by RiE stating that but it's worthless. Also, the Comanche will be ingame. Rage everywhere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
viper[cww] 14 Posted March 14, 2013 We still have 7.62mm, 9mm, 6.5mm cased mag used with the TRG-20, so really there is only one class of ammo and magazine that covers two weapon types that uses caseless. Also the shell ejection port on 6.5mm releases excess gas from the firing mechanism. Caseless ammo in a video game is just a lame excuse to help with performance issues imo...and it makes the game look odd, as in Wolfenstein 3D ancient video games odd. This just proves once again how every single upcoming video game these days turns into dog poo. This change kills the whole Arma experience for me. If I want laser guns, I can play some Star Wars title... My above statement pretty much null and voids this statement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuse 1 Posted March 14, 2013 Yes, they "suddenly" changed it since their E3 show case...check YT for proof, hence the still existing shell ejection ports! It only takes place 20 years in the future, not 10.000... Now I'm just confused. 20 > 10.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[frl]myke 14 Posted March 14, 2013 Pointless rant thread is caseless...erm, i mean: pointless. -Closed- 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites